Verwijderd schreef op woensdag 13 februari 2008 @ 18:56:
Maar mijn grootste teleurstelling is echt wel het fel besproken "picture delay" probleem.
Ik had erover gelezen en het leek mij allemaal overdreven en verwaarloosbaar , maar ik baal er echt van.
Ik speel dagelijks call of duty 4 op ps 3 , voorheen op een goedkoper sharp aquos breedbeeldtoestel. Ik kon mij echt goed verdedigen en was vaak één van de betere bij online gaming , maar nu heb ik het gevoel dat ik overal te traag ben , schiet ik er meer naast dan erop bij manier van spreken en zeker met "het mes" afmaken lukt amper nog...
Ik las op forum hier dat SPEL ook een optie was , zou dit veel uitmaken, zou het aan hdmi kabel kunnen liggen , zou... pff ik vind het echt jammer, tv is verder echt top maar gaming is my 2de life...
Trouwens niet online pes 2008 spelen met vrienden geeft zelfs af en toe een vertraging , komaan zeg voor een toestel van +/- 2000 € !!!!!
Iemand dezelfde ervaring of enig advies ????
Alvast bedankt !!
Geen advies maar wel een opsomming van de bekende problemen met deze 99,97 en 96 serie.
Van het engels AVS forum :
http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613872
Stukje van de tekst van iemand die alles netjes gerubriceerd heeft.
Known problems/faults with the 9632/9732/9900 range with .015 firmware upgrade
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1) Picture Lag is present of about 120-150ms (game input and lipsync).
- There is no way to shorten this dealy even by removing all
picture enhancing features.
- Less than expected gaming experiance.
- If you follow Philips guide lines for removing lipsink
(feeding audio in and out of the LCD) you'll loose DTS/5.1
due to HDCP protection rules (downgraded) unless you
use HDMI 3 (see point 5a).
2a) DNM (digitial natural motion) and Perfect Pixel HD do not work if you
have the LCD's source input set to 'PC'.
- Even though the options are available in the menues (not greyed out)
the enhancement is missing in the displayed picture.
- Removing 'PC' input results in poor 1080p quality for PC connections
(picture flicker on mouse pointer movements) but DNM will work.
2b) Playstation 3 GUI glitching, noticeable in PS3 store when in 1080p.
- A solution is to set the input as 'PC', however doing this disables
DNM which is not acceptable when waching Bluray (see point 2a).
2c) Interlacing can be seen in moving objects at 1080p.
- It seems the LCD converts 1080p signals back to 1080i and then
incorrectly back to 1080p.
- It is suggest that this is the reason for point 2b.
3) Even though the LCD is suppost to be 14bit color processing it seems
to suffer from bad color banding.
- Displying a Color gradient chart shows the problem perfectly.
4a) Sources using EXT1 / EXT2 (RGB) suffer poor picture quality (blured).
- Greens edges appears on screen (esp between grey graidents).
4b) Sources using EXT1 / EXT2 (RGB) suffer Sudden drops in contrast.
- Contrast drops happen frequently when using a Wii console.
5a) HDMI 1 and 2 cannot pass DTS/5.1 audio to the LCD's digital output,
instead it is downsampled to stereo.
- HDMI 3 seems to allow this (apart from on HDCP protected content)
but it can be tricky to get working and its possible it does not
work on all SSB types.
5b) If you have three HDMI sockets plugged in at the same time some can
stop working. You have to unplug one for the others to work again.
- This is solved by an upgraded SSB board inside the LCD, it can be
determined if you have the new SSB by your serial number, if it has
an 'A' its the old board, a 'E' is the new board.
6) Problems with the EPG if a card is present in the common port with no
active subscriptions in progress.
- The EGP can lock up (but you can still exit).
- Exiting the EPG can cause an unsupported format message for a few seconds.
- Problem can be solved by removing the CI adapter.
7) A high pitched whine can be heard when the screen is in standby.
- Some screens suffer this problem more than others.
- It is said the PSU causes this problem.
- This is not fixable via a firmware upgrade.
- Only solution is to unplug the LCD totally.
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According the the specs the new SSB does not support 14 bit picture
processing although philips clearly advertise this screen does.
- Old board model number is PNX8537.
- New board model number is PNX8541.
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The Eco-SSB lacks two “not commercial exploited” functions, being the YC-input
on the SCART connector and the SPDIFinput connector. They are further fully
compatible with the actual used ones.
Some delta’s with respect to the “Eco” SSB compared with the “normal” SSB are:
- No LED’s for “board is started” and “image on LVDS output”.
- Changeover from PNX8537 to PNX8541 for better picture quality.
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