ik heb inmiddels wat research gedaan, en ik lees alle tips van Disk Repair, Permissions Repair, tot PRAM reset, herinstallatie, downgraden van firmware, switchen tussen 32 en 64bit en terug, en nog een heleboel variaties daarop.
Ik had er ERG veel last van, na het runnen van een Permissions Repair en het herstarten in 64bit is het al een stuk minder.
In dit topic staat een boel info: http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=10223927
als je de rants wil overslaan, hier een korte samenvatting van de meest voorgestelde oplossingen:
dit is een grep van mijn log op de INSERT-HANG-DETECTED die de fijne strandballetjes veroorzaakt. ik heb aangegeven waar ik welke aanpassingen heb gedaan. zoals je ziet komt het nog steeds voor, maar VEEL korter en minder vaak. en minder storend.
dat je er maar iets aan mag hebben....
Ik had er ERG veel last van, na het runnen van een Permissions Repair en het herstarten in 64bit is het al een stuk minder.
In dit topic staat een boel info: http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=10223927
als je de rants wil overslaan, hier een korte samenvatting van de meest voorgestelde oplossingen:
(disclaimer: bepaal eerst voor jezelf wat je nuttig en veilig acht voordat je genoemde acties blind gaat proberen!).mac os x possible fixes
I have a fix ... at least it worked for me. I was averaging a 10-30 sec lockup approx every 2 hours of usage. After doing this, zero lockups after 3 days solid use.
My system is a 17" MBP, latest version.
1. Repair permissions
2. Shut system down.
3. on power-up, click and hold down option-command-R-P after you hear the 1st beep. Keep holding it through two beeps then release.
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A FIX THAT WORKS!
I can confirm that the below works. I followed this prescription last night and the freezing has gone away. Previously, I could self-generate the freezing issue under load, especially noticeable when playing video or music. Now, nothing. I have played a video from YouTube while playing a movie in iTunes while doing a 1GB file copy from a Windows 7 VM to the OSX desktop, not a snifter of a pause and no dirty little beach ball. The machine has performed seamlessly all day despite constant use, something utterly unthinkable previously.
It's a bit annoying that Apple put the update out in the first place, and that the firmware regression is a reduction in functionality, however, I'm not using an SSD drive so I won't miss the speed, plus, now my Mac works! Finally, shame on Apple for not making this fix more widely available, my local Apple store didn't have a clue what I was talking about. Genius? I don't think so, pal.
I am confident this will fix the 30 second freeze issue, fully and permanently.
CAVEAT: I did notice that some people on YouTube were having freeze issues which affected their screen; a total lockup. To be clear, this was not my symptom; my machine would lock for 20-30 seconds, the mouse would move but that's it, the clock stopped and all button presses were futile. On resume, all buffered key presses would be performed and the machine would return to function. I can only say that this fix solved that particular issue for me.
Also, if you're not sure, don't do it, remember, this is done at your own risk, if it fails, that's an awfully expensive table mat you're looking at.
One last thing; after completing the fix DON'T RE-INSTALL THE 1.7 FIRMWARE UPGRADE! You can choose to ignore the upgrade so it doesn't try to reinstall itself again. Run the Software Update Tool, choose the update, then, on the "Updates" menu option select "Ignore Update" and click OK on the resulting box. (Sorry if this is egg sucking material for you guys, I didn't know this so I figured maybe others might not either).
This was originally posted by Panzo here; http://forums.macrumors.c...read.php?t=729883&page=13
PERFORM THE UPGRADE WHILE CONNECTED TO POWER!
1) Download the linked .dmg file.
http://rapidshare.com/fil..._MacBook_Pro_Recovery.dmg
2) Do not mount file
3) Plug in a usb drive of any size, (the files in the .dmg are small enough to fix on any memory stick).
4) Reformat this USB drive in Mac OSX HFS+ Journaled in disk utility.
5) Click on the newly formatted drive Volume, then click on the tab restore (same row as erase).
6) in this panel you will see two white input boxes, in source you will browse and select the .dmg downloaded in step 1, you can either browse it or drag and drop it in the source box.
7) in the Destination box, drag and drop the newly formatted Volume from step 4/5
no need to have the erase destination box checked/ticked.
hit the restore button/
9) once this is done, unplug and replug the usb drive, shut down the machine
10) boot up the machine while its booting up, before the apple icon pops up, press and hold the OPTION button, (on my machine it was the ALT button - CARL), until your drives/partitions pop up.
11) in my case i had three pop up, my bootcamp partition my main mac harddrive, and the BOOTABLE USB drive i just made, select the bootable USB drive. Use Arrows to navigate and Enter button to select
12) once this is selected the apple logo will come up and a dark gray bar will start to move right under it. Sit relax and wait for the process to be done. (Only took a couple of minutes on my Mac - CARL)
END: you have now downgraded to EFI firmware 1.6
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Here is something else to try. My MBP was unusable today. Everything slowed to a crawl and appeared to freeze. Rebooting usually helped out for a while, but the slow/freezing would return almost immediately today.
I noticed that spotlight was reindexing my hard drive after reboots, so I disabled spotlight indexing for the hard drive and I appear to be back on full throttle now.
Please try this and report if it helps:
1. Open System Preferences
2. Click Spotlight
3. Click the Privacy tab
4. Drag your hard drive from the desktop to the list shown in the Privacy tab
5. Close System Preferences
Good luck. Here's hoping for 10.6.2
Eric
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On a hunch (I've seen similar behavior on Linux) I booted into the 64-bit kernel by holding down 6 and 4 during boot (confirmed with 'uname -a' in Terminal) and the problem has completely gone away. I had a virtualbox VM burning CPU cycles and churning away at disk I/O, iTunes importing a 1700 song library, and Firefox open with a whole bunch of tabs, including HD youtube videos. Everything was a bit sluggish, but there were no long stalls, and the video didn't miss a frame once it finally loaded. Since I only have 2 GB of RAM, it's not a memory utilization problem, but probably some sort of address space fragmentation problem, similar to the kind often seen on 32-bit Linux machines.
The fact that it doesn't happen in 32-bit Leopard indicates that there's still a regression to be fixed, but this may be a workaround for some people.
Reading through the thread, I think we're seeing at least 3 different bugs. Some people are having disk permission problems, some people are having hard disk firmware/driver problems, and some people are having kernel VM problems. If repairing permissions hasn't worked for you, this is definitely something to try before going to the trouble of reverting your firmware, because it's a lot simpler and easier to undo, simply by reboot, though there is a tool somewhere that makes the 64-bit kernel the default.
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From my experience so far, the sysmptoms seems to correlate with the amount of swap space the system has allocated.
I'm using iStat pro as dashboard widget. To see swap related data, go into options/sections/memory and select advanced.
Lockups do not happen on my machine at all as long as Swap is down to zero. As swap file usage increases, lockups seem to occur more frequently. A lockup would typically last for a duration of 30s, at which the machine is completely frozen except for the mouse pointer, and is followed by a brief period of high disk activity and an increase of the "Page Ins" counter, which seems to point to a memory management related cause. The workaround seems to be: reboot often.
Another cause of lockups, although only the brief ones, not the 30s ones, seems to be hardware monitoring programs. While using a piece of software called Temperature Monitor, the system would frequently freeze briefly. After disabling the software and the HDD temperature monitoring in iStat pro, those brief freezes were practically gone.
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Ok there are lots of item to check for leftovers that could be causing problems.
Run SIMBL uninstaller included in the 0.9.6b build.
Then Check these locations for stuff not properly removed and that only 64bit SL compatible versions of the software found in these locations are installed:
/Library/Application Support/SIMBL (This Needs to Be removed)
~/Library/Application Support/SIMBL (This Needs to be Removed from your home directory)
/Library/Bundles/
/Library/Contextual Menu Items/
/Library/InputManagers/
/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/
/Library/LaunchAgents/ (Remove SIMBL if its there)
/Library/LaunchDaemons/
/Library/PreferencePanes/
/Library/QuickLook/
/Library/ScriptingAdditions
/Library/StartupItems/
/Library/
To reinstall SIMBL run the installer for .0.9.6b only. and check that the permissions on the /Library/LaunchAgents/ folder are "755" or "drwxr-xr-x"
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any one tried this cleaner tool?
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=778819
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I was having a similar issue until I read a post advising to go through the following folders and remove any third-party stuff:
/Library/Bundles/
/Library/Contextual Menu Items/
/Library/InputManagers/
/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/
/Library/LaunchAgents/
/Library/LaunchDaemons/
/Library/PreferencePanes/
/Library/QuickLook/
/Library/ScriptingAdditions
/Library/StartupItems/
You should also check the Library folder in your home folder.
Since I've done this SL is running perfectly.
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OK You're all doing arcane tinkering, switching your apps from 64 bit to 32 bit etc, which you SHOULD NOT NEED TO DO! We're on macs guys, NOT pcs. A lot of FUD being spread in this post.
Just reset your System Management Controller, it's really easy and certainly fixed all my beachballing/freezing problems:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1411
And if that doesn't work, then get your mac repaired under warranty, you SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE doing all these bizarre rituals to get your mac working.
dit is een grep van mijn log op de INSERT-HANG-DETECTED die de fijne strandballetjes veroorzaakt. ik heb aangegeven waar ik welke aanpassingen heb gedaan. zoals je ziet komt het nog steeds voor, maar VEEL korter en minder vaak. en minder storend.
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dat je er maar iets aan mag hebben....