Ik heb het volgende gevonden, dit vind ik persoonlijk nogal een intressant stuk. Dit is iemand die het totale gesprek met The Architect uitlegd (in zijn visie).
Voor mij maakt dit een aantal dingen nog best wel duidelijker, omdat er toch een aantal stukken tussen zitten wat nou niet echt makkelijk engels is en daarom wat moeilijker te begrijpen.
Firstly... it's only a movie. That said, why get worked up over and just
wait until November? Because I feel like it and I think its fun. I think
some others would agree. If you don't like over-analyzing movie dialogue and
plot points, then STOP READING RIGHT NOW.
Good. That's out of the way.
Things we can assume to a certain degree up to the point of the Architect's
interaction with Neo:
1) Agent Smith can upload himself into a real human.
Given the nature of the man/machine relationship in the movie, with humans
jacked into the Matrix living inside the simulation, and how humans can
obviously be controlled and manipulated through connections in the brain, I
think we have to assume that the Smith Virus has re-wired Bane's brain. How
this affects the outcome of Revolutions will be interesting, but it should
be a big clue that there is a little bit going on in the machine can control
human part of the equation. (More on that much later.)
2) There was a war between men and machines, as outlined in the Second
Renaissance Parts 1 & 2 of the Animatrix. We have to believe real humans
exist. Also, Tank in the first movie talks about being pure, born and raised
in the real world. We see all sorts of humans without the holes and machine
connectors. For the story to have any meaning, I think the story has to
ultimately be about real people to a certain degree. I don't buy the Matrix
within a Matrix piece based on what has been told so far across the
storyline.
3) The Oracle appears to be on the good side. Maybe the Oracle is on the
Architect's side, but her comments give no indication that she is operating
for the bad side. Also, remember the view Neo has of Seraph? He's gold code.
This leads me to believe that rogue software in the Matrix is working on
it's own, living *inside* the simulation in a manner similar to humans.
There's nothing to say that machines and software, as an evolved form of
intelligence, don't have their own agendas, right? We evolved from apes and
have our own perceptions of the universe.... the machines seemed to have
done the same thing. And as seen in the Animatrix, the machines have
"bodies" and exist outside the Matrix as well. The Oracle appears jacked
into the Matrix herself. (How she uses the backdoors alludes to this.)
Now... onto the scene...
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The Architect - Hello, Neo.
Neo - Who are you?
The Architect - I am the Architect. I created the Matrix. I've been waiting
for you. You have many questions, and although the process has altered your
consciousness, you remain irrevocably human. Ergo, some of my answers you
will understand, and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your
first question may be the most pertinent, you may or may not realize it is
also irrelevant.
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First, the Architect claims to be the one who coded the Matrix. (The Matrix
is a software simulation, don't forget.) We probably should assume this
character is a sentient machine, and that machines have all the abilities
and nuances of intelligence that humans are capable of. Maybe even more.
Given the Animatrix series, especially the Second Renaissance parts 1 and 2,
we could also assume machines have their own agenda, their own intelligence,
their own sense of purpose and being that is in many ways equivalent to our
own consciousness. We could also assume the Architect is jacked into the
Matrix like Neo is, and we are therefore seeing an instantiation of his form
in the Matrix. They (Neo and The Architect) are both still inside the
simulation itself.
The "process" the Architect refers to is probably the path Neo has followed
so far, and his abilities that have been formed since learning the Matrix
was a simulation. It has altered Neo's consciousness. Neo knows more,
perceives more, thinks about the world in a different way now that he has
been woken up. He can control the software code, hack the system as well,
see and hear things other humans cannot. But Neo is *still* human. The
Architect says this. But maybe this only half of his meaning? (More on that
later.)
As a human being, the Architect is making the bold claim that what the
Architect will say will be meaningless to Neo. We probably should assume the
Architect thinks humans are on a lesser order than machines. (Like most
humans think of every other animal on the planet as a lesser being than
highly evolved apes.) His attitude and the way he converses in this scene
would validate this notion.
The Architect also tells Neo that his first question will be the most
irrelevant. I think the Wachowski's are putting a brutal play on what
happens in "life after death" concept from most religions here. When we die,
many of us who are religious believe we'll have an experience that might
match the notion of going to meet our God in the sky so all can be explained
to us. The Architect is playing into this with Neo, he appears to Neo in
this form. Too bad he has very bad news.
This intro paragraph puts some motive behind the Architect's dialogue that
follows below. This intelligent form of life believes itself to be on a
higher order than man, the one also tricking man into maintaining themselves
as slaves, and probably justifies its slavery of mankind in the same
fashion.
Again, go watch the Animatrix stuff.
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Neo - Why am I here?
The Architect - Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced
equation inherent to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality
of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to
eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While
it remains a burden to sedulously avoid it, it is not unexpected, and thus
not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you, inexorably, here.
//**********
//**********
The Architect basically tells Neo that he is the result of the software
error in the programming of the Matrix. The "unbalanced equation inherent to
the programming" piece is the notion of "choice" as the Architect confirms
below. That humans need "choice" in order to be tricked into believing the
simulation. The fact that choice must exist in the simulation gives rise to
one of the humans in the simulation learning enough to make it to The
Source. (And also learning enough to be a serious threat to the Matrix, and
consequently, the machines.)
Neo is the "eventuality of an anomaly." Neo exists because the software bug
allows the *condition* for him to exist in the first place. He is the result
of what happens at the peak of the software bug's conditions. If the
Architect could squash that coding bug, we probably should assume he would.
Again, the notion that the Architect thinks of itself as a higher order than
humans comes in the "mathematical precision" comment. And also makes the
Architect sounds just enough like God, in his own mind.
The Architect also keeps track of the software bug, the memory leak if you
will, and every so often has to deal with it, even though for the most part
he ignores the problem. Seems the Architect built in a function to send the
One along a path that forces the One to wind up in front of the Architect.
Or, maybe the Architect has created the simulation to the degree that it
guarantees the One will make it to the Source before the problem (Zion) gets
out of control.
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Neo - You haven't answered my question.
The Architect - Quite right. Interesting. That was quicker than the others.
*The responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: Others? What
others? How many? Answer me!'*
//**********
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Great line. The Architect is impressed that Neo is a bit smarter and faster
than the others that have come before him. Evolution in action maybe? An
aspect of Neo the Architect hadn't planned for? A clue that Neo is obviously
different than the other Ones. Maybe the Oracle knows something here as
well.
This also gives us a clue that the Architect, while thinking of himself as a
higher being than man, may not be so high and mighty. He obviously wasn't
aware that Neo could come up with that answer so fast, right? The Architect
is not God, even though he presents himself in front Neo in a fashion that
resembles God.
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The Architect - The matrix is older than you know. I prefer counting from
the emergence of one integral anomaly to the emergence of the next, in which
case this is the sixth version.
*Again, the responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: Five
versions? Three? I've been lied too. This is bull****.*
//**********
//**********
The Architect is simply referring to the number of other Ones that appeared
before him. Neo is the sixth.
Note that there is nothing here to assume that the other Ones before Neo
were simply other versions of Neo. That is a possibility, but nothing done
up to now should lead us to that conclusion. I think we should expect that
Neo is himself, and is just the sixth human to make it to the Source.
As for the screens, they are monitors so the Architect can watch activity
inside the Matrix. They may even be a debugging system for him. But when
they switch into showing Neo, if the Architect is a machine, it is very
likely that it thinks like a machine, maybe like one that plays chess. A
machine would probably run all sorts of simulations to map out all possible
responses from Neo, and from what it appears to be in the movie, this is
what is happening. The screens show various simulations of Neo's responses
working in real time (they have really fast computers in the future
obviously), honing in on the response that Neo eventually speaks.
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Neo: There are only two possible explanations: either no one told me, or no
one knows.
The Architect - Precisely. As you are undoubtedly gathering, the anomaly's
systemic, creating fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations.
*Once again, the responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: You
can't control me! **** you! I'm going to kill you! You can't make me do
anything!*
//**********
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It would seem that since only five other humans have ever made it to this
room, no one (at least no other human) knows about the Architect and that's
why no one knows that this series of events has occurred multiple times. The
other Ones choose to save humanity and rebuild Zion after the machines
destroy it.
How that information gets lost in history is unknown, but given how much we
have lost of our own history as time moves forward, it seems plausible that
those in Zion have not passed the information down correctly from generation
to generation.
Further, the Architect says the software bug, the thing that allows Neo to
exist and become the One, is systemic. It permeates throughout the entire
simulation. It cannot be gotten rid of, it seems, and is inherent to the
coding of the Matrix itself. The problem can never go away. Why?...
**********//
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Neo - Choice. The problem is choice.
*The scene cuts to Trinity fighting an agent, and then back to the
Architects room*
//**********
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Bingo. Neo figures out the problem. Why the bug exists, and to a certain
extent, what plagues the Architect. Pisses him off even.
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The Architect - The first matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect, it
was a work of art, flawless, sublime. A triumph equaled only by its
monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is as apparent to me now
as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being, thus I
redesigned it based on your history to more accurately reflect the varying
grotesqueries of your nature. However, I was again frustrated by failure. I
have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required
a lesser mind, or perhaps a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection.
Thus, the answer was stumbled upon by another, an intuitive program,
initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche. If I
am the father of the matrix, she would undoubtedly be its mother.
//**********
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The Architect seems kind of peeved that he had to "dumb down" the features
of the software to accommodate human nature, and program in choice (or free
will) so the humans would believe the simulation. (And great allusions
towards the story of Adam and Eve leaving the Garden of Eden, the place God
made perfect for his creation, right? So many twists and turns in what the
Wachowski's have written into this story in this regard.)
And note the Architect speaks directly about his opinion of himself over man
here, needing a "lesser" mind to understand the problem. He needed the help
of code or a machine that was designed to investigate the human condition.
Something that studied more intuitive models of human nature.
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Neo - The Oracle.
//**********
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I'm still shocked by the number of people who take this hook, line and
sinker. The Architect is not talking about the Oracle, IMHO. The Oracle
seems to be on a plane almost equivalent to the Architect.
The Architect's "Please" response is said with a sense of belittlement. I
don't think we can conclude the Architect is referring to the Oracle. I
think we should conclude that the Architect is referring to Persephone.
There are many stories around Persephone playing a much larger role in
Revolutions than in Reloaded. And they gave her own poster for crying out
loud!
Persephone's motives, the need for the kiss for example, is something that
fits better with a machine designed to "investigate the human condition."
How Persephone plays out in Revolutions remains to be seen. Her kiss may
have been some transfer of knowledge that will be used against Neo in
Revolutions. Who knows...
By the way, this detail is important because it would allow the Oracle to
have motives of her own that get played out in Revolutions. She does things
in the Matrix of her own free will with her own purposes and intentions,
even though she is a machine. (She says "we're in this together" don't
forget.) So far, there's nothing that lead me to doubt her motives.
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The Architect - Please. As I was saying, she stumbled upon a solution
whereby nearly 99.9% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as
they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a
near unconscious level. While this answer functioned, it was obviously
fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic
anomaly, that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo,
those that refused the program, while a minority, if unchecked, would
constitute an escalating probability of disaster.
//**********
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With the help of Persephone's analysis of human nature, the Architect was
able to build a simulation that worked 99.9% of the time, tricking enough of
the humans hooked up to it. The good enough syndrome, eh? The problem is
that in coding the simulation to be a system that requires choice to be
inherent to the code, it leave this .1% of humans waking up and growing in
number to the point where they can threaten the simulation externally.
This, of course leads us to...
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Neo - This is about Zion.
The Architect - You are here because Zion is about to be destroyed. Its
every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existence eradicated.
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After enough time has passed, the machines must obliterate Zion and the
people living there to make sure the people don't free all the human slaves
in the Matrix.
Seems pretty straight forward, doesn't it?
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Neo - Bull****.
*The responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: Bull****!*
The Architect - Denial is the most predictable of all human responses. But,
rest assured, this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it, and we have
become exceedingly efficient at it.
*Scene cuts to Trinity fighting an agent, and then back to the Architects
room.*
//**********
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There's more of the Architect acting all snobbish again. The Architect is
confident in its machine-like logic to a fault, though. Which could be a big
theme in Revolutions if the third movie is an all out war movie. Which it
looks to be.
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The Architect - The function of the One is now to return to the source,
allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the
prime program. After which you will be required to select from the matrix 23
individuals, 16 female, 7 male, to rebuild Zion. Failure to comply with this
process will result in a cataclysmic system crash killing everyone connected
to the matrix, which coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately
result in the extinction of the entire human race.
//**********
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This paragraph still bugs me.
It seems that the Architect is making the claim that he needs Neo in order
to reload the simulation somehow. But he only needs Neo temporarily. I just
kind of assume that the things Neo has learned on his path to
"enlightenment" are to be re-used by the Architect somehow for the next
cycle of the simulation. So the Architect can learn more and more and reach
a point where the simulation achieves "mathematical perfection" at some
point.
Basically, this entire thing seems like a military style gambit -- Do this
or we'll do that. The lesser of two evils choice. The Architect is relying
on human nature and the desire for self-preservation (in this case of the
species) to make the gambit work.
One question to be asked here: Since the number the Architect gives Neo is
23, (and note these are people *FROM* the Matrix, people who have no idea
what is going on in the real world), we can assume Neo would be 24. Two
women for every man. If it is then true that the One joins the newly freed
humans from the Matrix, why doesn't the One tell the real story so it can be
passed down? I can only guess history gets jumbled over time.
This paragraph also might give rise to the notion the Neo is just another
software program. But that explanation doesn't feel right to me if he is.
This story is too well thought out to have an exit strategy that is so easy.
But it could mean... (see below)
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Neo - You won't let it happen, you can't. You need human beings to survive.
The Architect - There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept.
However, the relevant issue is whether or not you are ready to accept the
responsibility for the death of every human being in this world.
//**********
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Again, definitely a military style gambit. Go watch the Second Renaissance
Parts 1 and 2 of the Animatrix. These machines are evolved intelligence, and
are prepared to do whatever they feel they must to win.
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*The Architect presses a button on a pen that he is holding, and images of
people from all over the matrix appear on the monitors*
The Architect - It is interesting reading your reactions. Your five
predecessors were by design based on a similar predication, a contingent
affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of
your species, facilitating the function of the one. While the others
experienced this in a very general way, your experience is far more
specific. Vis-a-vis, love.
//**********
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And now the curveball.
The "by design" part is perplexing. What does it mean? Is Neo a software
program and not human? Why is "by design" even mentioned? The Architect is
implying he made Neo somehow, or is he? ("...that was meant to create a
profound attachment...")
Here is what I consider three possible answers:
1) Neo is really human after all.
The Architect could simply be referring to the notion that "human beings" by
design, how they are "wired up" in their brains if you will, are set up for
self-preservation, genetically. For an innate feeling of attachment to their
species. The Architect has been exploiting this aspect of humans and it
worked with the other five "Ones." Just that the Architect never had a Hax0r
in love?
2) Neo is a software program through and through, built and designed by the
Architect.
I don't buy this one. There's no real drama in this storyline and the
Wachowski's are on record as saying they wanted to make a movie that
borrowed from everything heroic and mythical in epic storytelling. For that
epic to have impact, Neo must fight to save the world and everyone in it.
Not "virtually" fight or be some sort of software program with a Matrix
inside a Matrix, but really fight it out. Revolutions is setting us up for a
massive war movie. For that to have impact at the "epic" level, it must be a
real war for the human race in the story.
3) Neo is like Deckerd from "Blade Runner"
He's something of a humanoid himself, but based on human genes and genetics
("...you remain irrevocably human..."), manipulated and bred to be
controlled by machines. His brain is grown to be wired into the Matrix,
therefore, his brain can be coded. Neo, Morpheus, Trinity, and all the
others from the Matrix are a new breed of human, mixing with "real humans"
in Zion once woken up. The machines figured out how to wire up human brains
and "code" them. The cosmic flipside of what the Animatrix tells us, where
man built machines and controlled them. They now control us via coding. The
humans in the Matrix are controllable to a certain degree, save the software
bug that allows some of these bred humanoids to "wake up."
I'm leaning towards the notion that Neo is a new kind of human being evolved
to operate in the Matrix, via theory #3. He's part human and part machine
(an obvious point missed by many of us discussing this issue I think since a
cable can be jacked into his skull), put into the Matrix by the Architect
and the machines. He's been born and bred to live in the simulated world.
He's still human for the most part, but his brain can be coded to live out
the prophecy of the One. Which means...
The human brain can be hacked.
This would help to explain various elements that we so far have little
understanding of in the story. It would explain how Agent Smith was able to
upload himself into Bane, originally a rebel woken up to fight for Zion.
(Smith is just code, and therefore was able to overtake Bane's brain, since
Bane's brain like the other humanoids can be hacked.) It would explain how
Agent Smith can overtake other human avatars, and even how Agents do it in
general. (The Agents rewire the humans in the Matrix and convert them into
Agents to work for the machines purpose. They re-code them, and in doing so,
take over their appearance in the Matrix to boot.) It would also explain how
the Architect got all the pieces in place to get people like Morpheus to
follow the prophecy on pure "faith," as Morpheus was coded to do so, and
probably without realizing it. And why the Architect makes reference to
disseminating the code in Neo.
Humans have a choice in the Matrix, but that choice is all a fiction.
They've been coded to obey, and only think they have choice because they've
been hacked. But the anomaly in the software design builds to a point where
One of the humans breaks away from the simulation and has TRUE choice, TRUE
free will. When this happens, the system must be reset before the true
choice infects the other humans.
Neo as part man and machine could also possibly explain how Neo can stop the
Sentinels. If true, then Neo can possibly interact with the machines outside
the Matrix in the real world. If the ships of the rebels can "patch into the
Matrix" remotely (they do it all wirelessly don't forget), then why couldn't
a cyborg or humanoid? If he can patch remotely, then theoretically he can
hack the machines from outside the Matrix (like he hacks the software inside
when he fight them), and therefore shut them down. But to do so he must be
completely "free", not partially free like maybe Morpheus and Trinity are.
Remember Deckerd from Blade Runner? He was a cyborg himself, even though he
didn't know it. Morpheus, Trinity, Neo... they could all be humanoids,
planted or coded to follow the prophecy to keep the Matrix simulation going,
to act through the software bug and allow just enough of the humans to build
Zion up to a point before squashing them.
But this time, the human side of Neo got the better of him. He decided to
take the other door. He fell in love. He woke beyond waking up, becoming
more human again.
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*Images of Trinity fighting the agent from Neos dream appear on the
monitors*
Neo - Trinity.
The Architect - Apropos, she entered the matrix to save your life at the
cost of her own.
Neo - No!
The Architect - Which brings us at last to the moment of truth, wherein the
fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed, and the anomaly revealed as both
beginning, and end. There are two doors. The door to your right leads to the
source, and the salvation of Zion. The door to the left leads back to the
matrix, to her, and to the end of your species. As you adequately put, the
problem is choice. But we already know what you're going to do, don't we?
Already I can see the chain reaction, the chemical precursors that signal
the onset of emotion, designed specifically to overwhelm logic, and reason.
An emotion that is already blinding you from the simple, and obvious truth:
she is going to die, and there is nothing that you can do to stop it.
//**********
//**********
Something that was not expected by the Architect now occurs. Neo achieved
self-awareness, like the machines before him did in the Animatrix series.
Neo achieved a new level of being. He fell in love. He has every intention
of saving Trinity *AND* the rest of humanity at the same time, the Architect
be damned!
The Architect has been able to control the humans bred in the Matrix to a
certain degree, even creating the simulation to allow for choice that was
controlled ultimately by the machines, but Neo has broken that chain. Since
they were still in the Matrix, a software simulation bound by the program's
core code, by design the Architect had to give Neo a choice.
Why on earth does the Architect give Neo a choice that could lead away from
the planned destruction of Zion for the sixth time? Dramatic license by the
writers maybe? It's only a movie after all.
**********//
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*Neo walks to the door on his left*
The Architect - Humph. Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion,
simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and your greatest
weakness.
Neo - If I were you, I would hope that we don't meet again.
The Architect - We won't.
//**********
//**********
The sword has been drawn, a line now drawn in the sand. Basically, the fight
is on.
Neo takes the door to save Trinity not because he wants to just save her
life, an act that could be seen as selfish. I think Neo had every intention
of saving her *and* then putting up the good fight to save Zion. Like all
good heroes, he intends to do both. (If Spiderman can save MJ and the Kids,
I believe Neo can too!) He probably didn't know how he would do that, but
maybe the Sentinels piece at the end of Reloaded, when Neo wakes up from the
coma, will give him the realization that he can hack the machines remotely.
Welcome to the Revolution.
Andrei