Help: join the PING survey!

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Ik krijg via chello a'dam naar amerika echt VRESELIJK hoge pingtijden. als voorbeeld:

Bezig met tracen van route naar www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]
voor maximaal 30 hops:

1 1 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.1.1
2 5 ms 6 ms 5 ms h7rtr1.a2000.nl [24.132.50.1]
3 5 ms 5 ms 4 ms h0rtr2-h7rtr1.a2000.nl [62.108.0.61]
4 5 ms 5 ms 4 ms am00rt04.brain.upc.nl-h0rtr2.a2000.nl [62.108.0.85]
5 5 ms 7 ms 5 ms 212.142.32.34
6 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms 212.142.32.44
7 5 ms 5 ms 6 ms nl-ams-rd-01-pos-4-0.chello.com [213.46.161.53]
8 6 ms 6 ms 10 ms 213.46.160.13
9 15 ms 19 ms 18 ms 213.46.160.10
10 14 ms 16 ms 15 ms 213.46.160.45
11 16 ms 19 ms 17 ms 213.46.160.54
12 29 ms 220 ms 203 ms uk-lon-ri-01-pos-5-0-0.chello.com [213.46.174.6]
13 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms 195.66.225.69
14 21 ms 21 ms 19 ms bbr01-p2-0.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.41]
15 1241 ms 1234 ms 1261 ms bbr02-p0-2.jrcy01.exodus.net [216.32.132.37]
16 1239 ms 1238 ms 1233 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]

spelen van diablo1 en 2 kan ik dus vergeten, want volgens battlenet heb ik te hoge lag.

spelen op de zone.com (van ms)

Bezig met tracen van route naar www.zone.com [207.46.172.45]
voor maximaal 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 5 ms 14 ms 4 ms h7rtr1.a2000.nl [24.132.50.1]
3 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms h0rtr2-h7rtr1.a2000.nl [62.108.0.61]
4 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms am00rt04.brain.upc.nl-h0rtr2.a2000.nl [62.108.0.85]
5 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms 212.142.32.33
6 5 ms 6 ms 5 ms 212.142.32.44
7 6 ms 5 ms 5 ms nl-ams-rd-01-pos-4-0.chello.com [213.46.161.53]
8 437 ms 458 ms 466 ms nlams303-tc-p9-3.ebone.net [195.158.234.173]
9 471 ms 477 ms 460 ms bebru203-tc-p1-0.ebone.net [195.158.225.85]
10 471 ms 463 ms 453 ms bebru204-tc-p2-0.ebone.net [195.158.225.82]
11 458 ms 460 ms 454 ms gblon505-tc-p1-0.ebone.net [195.158.232.41]
12 540 ms 529 ms 530 ms 195.158.229.25
13 511 ms 511 ms 499 ms POS3-3.BR3.NYC9.ALTER.NET [137.39.52.65]
14 1230 ms 1228 ms 1229 ms 538.at-6-0-0.XR2.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.23.150]
15 1230 ms 1228 ms 1231 ms 0.so-3-0-0.TR2.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.22.94]

dus ook volstrekt NIET te spelen. Ik zou bijna hopen dat ik ergens een fout in mijn eigen systeem heb zitten, en dat ik het na herinstallatie eruit kan krijgen. Wie van de chello gebruikers heeft hier ook last van?

[Roel]

bedpc:9~ # traceroute www.battle.net
traceroute to www.battle.net (209.67.136.167), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 e167129.upc-e.chello.nl (213.93.167.129) 18 ms 226 ms 11 ms
2 212.142.31.65 (212.142.31.65) 96 ms 13 ms 14 ms
3 212.142.31.218 (212.142.31.218) 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms
4 212.142.32.65 (212.142.32.65) 15 ms 13 ms 86 ms
5 212.142.32.2 (212.142.32.2) 14 ms 15 ms 17 ms
6 212.142.32.43 (212.142.32.43) 15 ms 15 ms 17 ms
7 nl-ams-rd-02-pos-4-0.chello.com (213.46.161.49) 15 ms 83 ms 18 ms
8 213.46.160.17 (213.46.160.17) 18 ms 17 ms 14 ms
9 213.46.160.5 (213.46.160.5) 32 ms 16 ms 18 ms
10 213.46.160.10 (213.46.160.10) 26 ms 25 ms 28 ms
11 213.46.160.45 (213.46.160.45) 25 ms 25 ms 93 ms
12 213.46.160.54 (213.46.160.54) 24 ms 25 ms 26 ms
13 uk-lon-ri-01-pos-5-0-0.chello.com (213.46.174.6) 27 ms 94 ms 25 ms
14 195.66.225.69 (195.66.225.69) 27 ms 27 ms 26 ms
15 bbr01-p2-0.lndn01.exodus.net (64.14.178.41) 82 ms 28 ms 27 ms
16 bbr02-p0-2.jrcy01.exodus.net (216.32.132.37) 104 ms 113 ms 110 ms
17 bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net (209.185.9.98) 187 ms 112 ms 155 ms
18 bbr02-g3-0.stng01.exodus.net (216.33.96.148) 117 ms 112 ms 116 ms
19 bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net (209.185.9.41) 140 ms 244 ms 246 ms
20 bbr02-g6-0.atln01.exodus.net (216.35.162.20) 170 ms 135 ms 141 ms
21 bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net (209.185.9.37) 160 ms 148 ms 148 ms
22 bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net (209.1.169.74) 205 ms 260 ms 229 ms
23 bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net (209.1.169.229) 248 ms 186 ms 186 ms
24 dcr03-g2-0.irvn01.exodus.net (216.33.164.35) 187 ms 186 ms 188 ms
25 csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net (216.33.164.196) 190 ms 198 ms 199 ms
26 209.67.136.167 (209.67.136.167) 195 ms 254 ms 213 ms

[Paul]

Waarom traceroute? Ping werkt toch net zo goed? okee, je ziet de stappen niet, maar het is wel sneller te meten (net tracert gedaan, minuut bezig geweest, ping 4 sec...)

Ik heb trouwens 100 ms, met ISDN op superweb 50 uurs, dus geen Chello, maar ging me meer om traceroute

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Tsjah je ziet het. Ook hier in Apeldoorn hebben we "breedband internet".

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Bezig met tracen van route naar www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]
voor maximaal 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms gateway.lan [192.168.1.1]
2 43 ms 43 ms 47 ms Apeldoorn.ah00rs02.chello.nl [212.187.16.1]
3 35 ms 34 ms 21 ms Gig6-0.ah00rt03.brain.upc.nl [212.142.28.121]
4 36 ms 46 ms 42 ms srp8-0.ah00rt02.brain.upc.nl [212.142.32.50]
5 43 ms 38 ms 37 ms srp0-0.am00rt02.brain.upc.nl [212.142.32.2]
6 29 ms 36 ms 143 ms srp0-0.am00rt05.brain.upc.nl [212.142.32.43]
7 47 ms 49 ms 64 ms nl-ams-rd-02-pos-4-0.chello.com [213.46.161.49]

8 35 ms 39 ms 36 ms nl-ams-rd-01-ge-7-0.chello.com [213.46.161.65]
9 34 ms 31 ms 43 ms 213.46.160.13
10 51 ms 57 ms 42 ms 213.46.160.10
11 45 ms 54 ms 45 ms 213.46.160.45
12 43 ms 40 ms 50 ms 213.46.160.54
13 45 ms 48 ms 54 ms uk-lon-ri-01-pos-5-0-0.chello.com [213.46.174.6]

14 54 ms 54 ms 43 ms 195.66.225.69
15 50 ms 52 ms 48 ms bbr01-p2-0.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.41]
16 1428 ms 1446 ms 1483 ms bbr02-p0-0.whkn01.exodus.net [209.185.249.133]
17 1403 ms 1447 ms 1461 ms bbr02-p1-0.jrcy01.exodus.net [209.1.169.186]
18 1482 ms 1518 ms 1482 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
19 1439 ms 1471 ms 1483 ms bbr02-g4-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.164]
20 1294 ms 1293 ms 1309 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
21 1303 ms 1294 ms 1327 ms bbr02-g2-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.4]
22 1350 ms 1347 ms 1343 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
23 1567 ms * 1441 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
24 1360 ms 1342 ms 1360 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
25 1451 ms 1458 ms 1443 ms dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.3]
26 1339 ms 1358 ms 1379 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]

27 1345 ms 1351 ms 1345 ms www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]

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Bezig met tracen van route naar www.zone.com [207.46.172.41]
voor maximaal 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms <10 ms gateway.lan [192.168.1.1]
2 47 ms 27 ms 29 ms Apeldoorn.ah00rs02.chello.nl [212.187.16.1]
3 36 ms 38 ms 33 ms Gig6-0.ah00rt03.brain.upc.nl [212.142.28.121]
4 38 ms 38 ms 33 ms srp8-0.ah00rt01.brain.upc.nl [212.142.32.49]
5 53 ms 36 ms 30 ms srp0-0.am00rt02.brain.upc.nl [212.142.32.2]
6 68 ms 42 ms 42 ms srp0-0.am00rt06.brain.upc.nl [212.142.32.44]
7 39 ms 33 ms 31 ms nl-ams-rd-01-pos-4-0.chello.com [213.46.161.53]

8 462 ms 456 ms 472 ms nlams303-tc-p9-3.ebone.net [195.158.234.173]
9 445 ms 448 ms 452 ms bebru203-tc-p1-0.ebone.net [195.158.225.85]
10 422 ms 425 ms 425 ms bebru204-tc-p2-0.ebone.net [195.158.225.82]
11 419 ms 444 ms 428 ms gblon505-tc-p1-0.ebone.net [195.158.232.41]
12 546 ms 540 ms 547 ms 195.158.229.21
13 548 ms 557 ms 562 ms POS3-3.BR3.NYC9.ALTER.NET [137.39.52.65]
14 548 ms 560 ms 600 ms 538.at-5-0-0.XR2.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.24.102]

15 531 ms 551 ms 564 ms 0.so-3-0-0.TR2.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.22.94]
16 634 ms 629 ms 622 ms 125.ATM6-0.TR2.SEA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.140.94]
17 635 ms 622 ms 631 ms 198.ATM6-0.XR2.SEA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.200.113]

18 615 ms 616 ms 673 ms 194.ATM4-0.GW3.SEA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.201.29]
19 666 ms 631 ms 630 ms 157.130.177.154
20 614 ms 610 ms 610 ms iuscb11ixc7501-a0-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.129.7
]
21 614 ms 628 ms 617 ms iusdgamesc7501-a5-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.168.3
7]
22 * 641 ms 616 ms nickname.msn.nl [207.46.172.41]

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Ik vind dat tering inet via chello ook erg erg traag de laatste tijd. Klote zooi!

[www.battle.net]
1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.0.10
2 40 ms 40 ms 50 ms e22001.upc-e.chello.nl [213.93.22.1]
3 50 ms 50 ms 50 ms Vlan53.ah00rs01.net.upc.nl [212.142.25.161]
4 50 ms 50 ms 40 ms Gig6-0.ah00rt03.brain.upc.nl [212.142.28.121]
5 50 ms 50 ms 50 ms 212.142.32.49
6 50 ms 50 ms 60 ms 212.142.32.1
7 50 ms 50 ms 60 ms 212.142.32.43
8 50 ms 61 ms 50 ms nl-ams-rd-02-pos-4-0.chello.com [213.46.161.49]
9 50 ms 60 ms 50 ms nl-ams-rd-01-ge-7-0.chello.com [213.46.161.65]
10 50 ms 50 ms 50 ms 213.46.160.13
11 60 ms 70 ms 60 ms 213.46.160.10
12 60 ms 71 ms 60 ms 213.46.160.45
13 60 ms 60 ms 60 ms 213.46.160.54
14 60 ms 70 ms 60 ms uk-lon-ri-01-pos-5-0-0.chello.com [213.46.174.6]
15 60 ms 70 ms 60 ms 195.66.225.69
16 60 ms 60 ms 70 ms bbr01-p2-0.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.41]
17 130 ms 130 ms 141 ms bbr02-p0-0.whkn01.exodus.net [209.185.249.133]
18 130 ms 141 ms 140 ms bbr02-p1-0.jrcy01.exodus.net [209.1.169.186]
19 140 ms 140 ms 150 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
20 200 ms 231 ms 130 ms bbr02-g4-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.164]
21 170 ms 180 ms 170 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
22 170 ms 170 ms 171 ms bbr02-g2-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.4]
23 191 ms 180 ms 180 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
24 220 ms 230 ms 210 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
25 220 ms 220 ms 221 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
26 231 ms 240 ms 230 ms dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.3]
27 210 ms 291 ms 220 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]
28 221 ms 230 ms 230 ms 209.67.136.167

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica>quote:</font><HR>Op 09 november 2000 21:00 schreef pnieuwkamp het volgende:
Waarom traceroute? Ping werkt toch net zo goed? okee, je ziet de stappen niet, maar het is wel sneller te meten (net tracert gedaan, minuut bezig geweest, ping 4 sec...)

Ik heb trouwens 100 ms, met ISDN op superweb 50 uurs, dus geen Chello, maar ging me meer om traceroute :)[/quote]Misschien omdat dit een beter beeld geeft van de situatie

[Verwijderd]

[www.zone.com]

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.0.10
2 40 ms 40 ms 50 ms e22001.upc-e.chello.nl [213.93.22.1]
3 60 ms 60 ms 70 ms Vlan53.ah00rs01.net.upc.nl [212.142.25.161]
4 50 ms 50 ms 50 ms Gig6-0.ah00rt03.brain.upc.nl [212.142.28.121]
5 40 ms * 50 ms 212.142.32.49
6 50 ms 60 ms 50 ms 212.142.32.1
7 50 ms 60 ms 60 ms 212.142.32.44
8 50 ms 60 ms 51 ms nl-ams-rd-01-pos-4-0.chello.com [213.46.161.53]
9 571 ms 581 ms 580 ms nlams303-tc-p9-3.ebone.net [195.158.234.173]
10 571 ms 601 ms 581 ms bebru203-tc-p1-0.ebone.net [195.158.225.85]
11 581 ms 591 ms 591 ms bebru204-tc-p2-0.ebone.net [195.158.225.82]
12 561 ms 590 ms 601 ms gblon505-tc-p1-0.ebone.net [195.158.232.41]
13 661 ms 661 ms 661 ms 195.158.229.33
14 671 ms 651 ms 651 ms POS3-3.BR3.NYC9.ALTER.NET [137.39.52.65]
15 661 ms 651 ms 650 ms 538.at-5-0-0.XR2.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.24.102]
16 651 ms 671 ms 681 ms 0.so-3-0-0.TR2.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.22.94]
17 781 ms 771 ms 771 ms 125.ATM6-0.TR2.SEA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.140.94]
18 771 ms 771 ms 771 ms 198.ATM6-0.XR2.SEA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.200.113]
19 761 ms 761 ms 761 ms 194.ATM4-0.GW3.SEA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.201.29]
20 762 ms 761 ms 751 ms 157.130.177.154
21 761 ms 761 ms 771 ms iuscb11ixc7502-a1-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.129.136]
22 771 ms * 781 ms iusdgamesc7501-a5-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.168.37]
23 801 ms 781 ms 781 ms nickname.msn.nl [207.46.172.48]

[Dark]

Tracing route to www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 30 ms 10 ms 20 ms kbl-rtr-zrz.zeelandnet.nl [212.92.83.254]
2 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms kbl-ATM-kam.zeelandnet.nl [212.115.199.142]
3 50 ms 30 ms 20 ms kabelgate.zeelandnet.nl [212.115.192.125]
4 40 ms 20 ms 40 ms mainrouter1-kpn.zeelandnet.nl [212.115.192.254]

5 71 ms 60 ms 50 ms 194.151.243.129
6 90 ms 90 ms 80 ms rt-dc2-ias-ar11.nl.kpn.net [194.151.226.195]
7 50 ms 61 ms 40 ms rt-dc2-ias-ar11.nl.kpn.net [195.190.236.37]
8 60 ms 60 ms 40 ms gv-dc2-ipc-cr10.nl.kpn.net [195.190.232.69]
9 80 ms 100 ms 90 ms asd-dc2-ipc-cr01.nl.kpn.net [195.190.232.41]
10 91 ms 100 ms 90 ms asd-sara-ipc-cr10.nl.kpn.net [195.190.254.226]
11 110 ms 111 ms 100 ms asd-nik-ias-pr10.nl.kpn.net [195.190.254.42]
12 60 ms 70 ms 60 ms aix.exodus.net [193.148.15.119]
13 60 ms 90 ms 50 ms bbr01-p0-3.amst01.exodus.net [64.14.178.1]
14 110 ms 130 ms 131 ms bbr01-p0-1.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.61]
15 181 ms 170 ms * bbr02-p0-2.jrcy01.exodus.net [216.32.132.37]
16 160 ms 160 ms 181 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
17 171 ms 170 ms 190 ms bbr02-g3-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.148]
18 * 190 ms 201 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
19 * 220 ms 200 ms bbr02-g6-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.20]
20 240 ms 241 ms 230 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
21 240 ms * 261 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
22 211 ms 220 ms 220 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
23 240 ms 240 ms 271 ms dcr03-g2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.35]
24 251 ms 270 ms 261 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]

25 270 ms 271 ms 300 ms 209.67.136.167

Trace complete.

en op zone.com:
Tracing route to www.zone.com [207.46.173.62]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 20 ms 30 ms 30 ms kbl-rtr-zrz.zeelandnet.nl [212.92.83.254]
2 30 ms 20 ms 20 ms kbl-ATM-kam.zeelandnet.nl [212.115.199.142]
3 20 ms 20 ms 30 ms kabelgate.zeelandnet.nl [212.115.192.125]
4 30 ms 30 ms 40 ms mainrouter1-kpn.zeelandnet.nl [212.115.192.254]

5 30 ms 50 ms 71 ms 194.151.243.129
6 40 ms 61 ms 60 ms rt-dc2-ias-ar11.nl.kpn.net [194.151.226.195]
7 40 ms 30 ms 30 ms rt-dc2-ias-ar11.nl.kpn.net [195.190.236.37]
8 40 ms 50 ms 30 ms ut-zo-ipc-cr01.nl.kpn.net [195.190.232.57]
9 80 ms 90 ms 111 ms asd-dc2-ipc-cr01.nl.kpn.net [195.190.232.37]
10 80 ms 80 ms 80 ms asd-dc2-ias-ur10.nl.kpn.net [195.190.228.50]
11 50 ms 40 ms 30 ms asd-nr16.NL.kpnqwest.net [134.222.199.133]
12 40 ms 20 ms 40 ms Ledn-cr01.NL.kpnqwest.net [134.222.228.194]
13 50 ms 60 ms 50 ms Ledn-cr03.NL.kpnqwest.net [134.222.229.122]
14 121 ms 110 ms 120 ms Nyk-cr03.NY.US.kpnqwest.net [134.222.229.226]
15 130 ms 111 ms 140 ms jfk-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.30.141]
16 150 ms 131 ms 130 ms 205.171.4.82
17 130 ms 140 ms * acr2-loopback.NewYorknyr.cw.net [206.24.194.62]

18 170 ms 151 ms 140 ms corerouter2.WestOrange.cw.net [204.70.9.139]
19 220 ms 250 ms 281 ms ngcore1.Seattle.cw.net [204.70.9.129]
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 201 ms 230 ms 210 ms iuscb11ixc7502-a0-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.129.8
]
22 360 ms 371 ms 400 ms iusdgamesc7501-a6-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.168.6
9]
23 280 ms 261 ms 270 ms jp.zone.com [207.46.173.62]

Trace complete.

[alt-92]

Pfffffffffff.....<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica>code:</font><HR>Tracing route to www.zone.com [207.46.172.41]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 29 ms 2 ms 2 ms h9rtr1.a2000.nl [62.108.10.1]
2 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms h0rtr1-h9rtr1.a2000.nl [62.108.0.13]
3 2 ms 3 ms 3 ms am00rt03.brain.upc.nl-h0rtr1.a2000.nl [62.108.0.81]
4 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 212.142.32.34
5 4 ms 2 ms 2 ms 212.142.32.44
6 5 ms 2 ms 4 ms nl-ams-rd-01-pos-4-0.chello.com [213.46.161.53]


Joepie..De E-banaan op (weer kut)


7 541 ms 540 ms 552 ms nlams303-tc-p9-3.ebone.net [195.158.234.173]
8 562 ms 542 ms 535 ms bebru203-tc-p1-0.ebone.net [195.158.225.85]
9 542 ms 535 ms 540 ms bebru204-tc-p2-0.ebone.net [195.158.225.82]
10 573 ms 581 ms 580 ms gblon505-tc-p1-0.ebone.net [195.158.232.41]
11 652 ms 641 ms 636 ms 195.158.229.29
12 649 ms 672 ms 662 ms POS3-3.BR3.NYC9.ALTER.NET [137.39.52.65]

..en dit netwerk loopt ook voor geen meter.


13 1229 ms 1232 ms 1251 ms 538.at-6-0-0.XR1.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.23.146]

14 1232 ms 1234 ms 1240 ms 0.so-4-0-0.TR1.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.15.110]
15 1330 ms 1332 ms 1327 ms 125.at-5-0-0.TR1.POR3.ALTER.NET [152.63.6.34]
16 1337 ms 1330 ms 1329 ms 197.ATM7-0.XR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET [152.63.105.1]
17 1332 ms 1324 ms 1333 ms 195.ATM6-0.GW3.SEA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.201.33]

OOOOh, wait, we Americans can fuck up even better than you europeans can...


18 1640 ms 1636 ms 1628 ms 157.130.177.154
19 1605 ms 1600 ms 1589 ms iuscb11ixc7502-a0-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.129.8]
20 1621 ms 1608 ms 1608 ms iusdgamesc7501-a5-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.168.37]
21 1637 ms 1610 ms 1607 ms nickname.msn.nl [207.46.172.41]

Trace complete.[/quote]

[alt-92]

O ja:
Zet het maar uit je hoofd om hier wat voor aan je eigen systeem te doen.
Heeft totaal geen zin.

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godzijdank, ik ben dus niet alleen

[Verwijderd]

leuk he.... iedereen die van het chello netwerk af gaat bij chello.com heeft direct vette vertraging

[alt-92]

En ALTER.NET heeft ook wat uit te leggen.. allejezus wat een k*tzooi zeg..

E-bone zuigt, maar daar kunnen ze er ook wat van.

[Dark]

Hier nog ff een paar pingplotjes voor je:






edit: plaatjes iets kleiner gemaakt past beter...

[metalant]

Hier een ping/tracert met een 56k modem via Trefpunt.

tracert www.battle.net

Bezig met tracen van route naar www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]
voor maximaal 30 hops:

1 145 ms 146 ms 145 ms uds-wxs-asd-cr03.wxs.nl [195.121.0.110]
2 139 ms 140 ms 135 ms 195.121.0.181
3 137 ms 128 ms 134 ms m6-a.wxs.nl [195.121.0.114]
4 131 ms 134 ms 149 ms aix.exodus.net [193.148.15.119]
5 136 ms 129 ms 133 ms bbr01-p0-3.amst01.exodus.net [64.14.178.1]
6 148 ms 145 ms 145 ms bbr01-p0-1.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.61]
7 227 ms 227 ms 222 ms bbr02-p0-2.jrcy01.exodus.net [216.32.132.37]
8 227 ms 251 ms 231 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
9 230 ms 241 ms 238 ms bbr02-g3-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.148]
10 288 ms 246 ms 239 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
11 263 ms 244 ms 241 ms bbr02-g6-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.20]
12 295 ms 264 ms 266 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
13 316 ms 517 ms 299 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
14 579 ms 586 ms 872 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
15 347 ms 296 ms 301 ms dcr03-g2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.35]
16 308 ms 305 ms 307 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]

17 487 ms 411 ms 594 ms www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]

Trace voltooid.

[alt-92]

Omygawd, het wordt er niet veel beter op...<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica>code:</font><HR>Tracing route to www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

dit is A2000/UPC

1 4 ms 2 ms 3 ms h9rtr1.a2000.nl [62.108.10.1]
2 7 ms 4 ms 5 ms h0rtr1-h9rtr1.a2000.nl [62.108.0.13]
3 12 ms 3 ms 2 ms am00rt03.brain.upc.nl-h0rtr1.a2000.nl [62.108.0.81]

en volgens mij hebben ze hier al wat routering omgegooid.



4 3 ms 4 ms 3 ms 212.142.32.33
5 12 ms 9 ms 3 ms 212.142.32.43
6 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms nl-ams-rd-02-pos-4-0.chello.com [213.46.161.49]

7 12 ms 3 ms 3 ms nl-ams-rd-01-ge-7-0.chello.com [213.46.161.65]

we lopen nu niet meer via de E-bone naar Brussel..



8 2 ms 3 ms 3 ms 213.46.160.13
9 15 ms 14 ms 12 ms 213.46.160.10
10 14 ms 12 ms 15 ms 213.46.160.45
11 14 ms 20 ms 18 ms 213.46.160.54
12 14 ms 16 ms 14 ms uk-lon-ri-01-pos-5-0-0.chello.com [213.46.174.6]

Chello-router in Londen...op weg naar een peering-partner.

13 17 ms 16 ms 14 ms 195.66.225.69
14 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms bbr01-p2-0.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.41]

Peering dus met Exodus.net.

Volgende stap is de plas over..



15 1217 ms 1217 ms 1212 ms bbr02-p0-0.whkn01.exodus.net [209.185.249.133]

Weehawken, USA...
Dit is echt om te janken zo slecht.



16 1223 ms 1226 ms 1220 ms bbr02-p1-0.jrcy01.exodus.net [209.1.169.186]
17 1227 ms 1230 ms 1231 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
18 1231 ms 1222 ms 1224 ms bbr02-g4-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.164]
19 1239 ms 1248 ms 1248 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
20 1246 ms 1245 ms 1245 ms bbr02-g2-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.4]
21 1304 ms 1308 ms 1297 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
22 1304 ms 1302 ms 1299 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
23 1311 ms 1300 ms 1302 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
24 1307 ms 1303 ms 1301 ms dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.3]
25 1299 ms 1299 ms 1298 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]

26 1303 ms 1301 ms 1297 ms www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]

Trace complete.[/quote]Het lijkt wel of het retourverkeer ergens in een loop hangt, zo slecht gaat het.

[Verwijderd]

dit is een modem verbinding:
8 227 ms 251 ms 231 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
9 230 ms 241 ms 238 ms bbr02-g3-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.148]
10 288 ms 246 ms 239 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
11 263 ms 244 ms 241 ms bbr02-g6-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.20]
12 295 ms 264 ms 266 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
13 316 ms 517 ms 299 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
14 579 ms 586 ms 872 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
15 347 ms 296 ms 301 ms dcr03-g2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.35]
16 308 ms 305 ms 307 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]

via exact dezelfde routers, maar dan via chello:

17 1227 ms 1230 ms 1231 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
18 1231 ms 1222 ms 1224 ms bbr02-g4-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.164]
19 1239 ms 1248 ms 1248 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
20 1246 ms 1245 ms 1245 ms bbr02-g2-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.4]
21 1304 ms 1308 ms 1297 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
22 1304 ms 1302 ms 1299 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
23 1311 ms 1300 ms 1302 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
24 1307 ms 1303 ms 1301 ms dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.3]

af en toe gaan we door dezelfde routers heen, maar op een ander ip adres (andere poort dus... staat die poort verder dicht of zo???????

[Pc123]

Ik heb met chello 189ms naar www.battle.net

[alt-92]

...alles wat Chello IP datagrammen heeft, wordt vertraagd.
Zouden ze soms een goedkope deal hebben dat de andere IP ranges 'voorrang' hebben op Chello pakketjes?
Zou me niet verbazen.<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica>code:</font><HR>Pinging www.battle.net [209.67.136.167] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Reply from 209.67.136.167: bytes=32 time=1308ms TTL=110
Request timed out.
Reply from 209.67.136.167: bytes=32 time=1312ms TTL=110

Ping statistics for 209.67.136.167:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 2, Lost = 2 (50% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1308ms, Maximum = 1312ms, Average = 655ms[/quote]hier weer niet..<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica>code:</font><HR>Ping - Thursday, November 09, 2000 21:56:29
Generated by CyberKit Version 2.5
Copyright © 1996-2000 by Luc Neijens

Address: jp.zone.com
Number of Packets: 999
Packet size: 64
Timeout: 15
Delay: 100
Resolve Addresses: Yes
Don't Fragment: Yes

#1 jp.zone.com (207.46.173.62): Echo Reply, ttl=39, 1594 ms
#2 jp.zone.com (207.46.173.62): Echo Reply, ttl=39, 1608 ms
#3 jp.zone.com (207.46.173.62): Echo Reply, ttl=39, 1609 ms
#4 jp.zone.com (207.46.173.62): Echo Reply, ttl=39, 1592 ms

Statistics: Out 5, in 4, loss 20%, times (min/avg/max) 1592/1600/1609 ms[/quote]

[Pc123]

blijkbaar had ik net errug veel geluk nu zit ie rond de 1000ms

[Pc123]

en nu weer 192ms

[Pc123]

hij blijft nu rond de 200ms zitten

[Pc123]

ja hoor nog steeds rond de 200, ik heb het dus goed getroffen met mijn chello aansluiting

[Verwijderd]

kun je ff een tracert doen? thanx.

[Pc123]

9 42 ms 27 ms 27 ms 213.46.160.13
10 41 ms 41 ms 42 ms 213.46.160.10
11 41 ms 41 ms 55 ms 213.46.160.45
12 41 ms 41 ms 41 ms 213.46.160.54
13 42 ms 41 ms 27 ms uk-lon-ri-01-pos-5-0-0.chello.com [213.46.174.6

14 41 ms 41 ms 41 ms 195.66.225.69
15 41 ms 42 ms 41 ms bbr01-p2-0.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.41]
16 109 ms 110 ms 110 ms bbr02-p0-0.whkn01.exodus.net [209.185.249.133]
17 124 ms 109 ms 124 ms bbr02-p1-0.jrcy01.exodus.net [209.1.169.186]
18 124 ms 123 ms 124 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
19 124 ms 123 ms 137 ms bbr02-g4-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.164]
20 165 ms 151 ms 151 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
21 137 ms 137 ms 138 ms bbr02-g2-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.4]
22 164 ms 165 ms 179 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
23 192 ms 192 ms 206 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
24 193 ms 206 ms 206 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
25 192 ms 206 ms 206 ms dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.3]
26 192 ms 206 ms 192 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196

27 192 ms 192 ms 248 ms 209.67.136.167

Trace voltooid.

[Verwijderd]

Vanuit Surfnet dan maar:
1 1 ms 2 ms 3 ms dunet3.router.tudelft.nl [130.161.68.1]
2 2 ms 3 ms 5 ms dunet0.router.tudelft.nl [130.161.1.52]
3 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms BR1.Delft.surf.net [145.41.17.129]
4 4 ms 5 ms 5 ms BR7.Amsterdam.surf.net [145.41.7.218]
5 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms BR1.Amsterdam.surf.net [145.41.7.142]
6 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms aix.exodus.net [193.148.15.119]
7 5 ms 7 ms 5 ms bbr01-p1-2.amst01.exodus.net [64.14.178.5]
8 18 ms 25 ms 18 ms bbr01-p0-1.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.61]
9 84 ms 83 ms 83 ms bbr02-p0-0.whkn01.exodus.net [209.185.249.133]
10 86 ms 83 ms 84 ms bbr02-p1-0.jrcy01.exodus.net [209.1.169.186]
11 88 ms 90 ms 88 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
12 89 ms 91 ms 88 ms bbr02-g4-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.164]
13 106 ms 106 ms 106 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
14 116 ms 116 ms 118 ms bbr02-g2-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.4]
15 163 ms 164 ms 164 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
16 162 ms 162 ms 163 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
17 162 ms 162 ms 163 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
18 173 ms 173 ms 175 ms dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.3]
19 163 ms 174 ms 164 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]

20 173 ms 173 ms 174 ms www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]

[Verwijderd]

wordt steeds vager: pc 123 gaat EXACT door dezelfde routers als ik, maar hij heeft een 6x lagere ping!!!

[shadax]

traceroute to www.battle.net (209.67.136.167), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 212.64.83.254 (212.64.83.254) 2551.586 ms 2565.751 ms 2319.465 ms
2 195.96.103.42 (195.96.103.42) 2360.019 ms 2155.811 ms *
3 G1-0.cr2.gv1.core.euro.net (194.134.160.98) 2141.533 ms 2155.104 ms 1654.113 ms
4 POS12-0-0.asd-bfr.nl.euro.net (194.134.160.130) 845.243 ms 1036.333 ms 1489.724 ms
5 S2-0.linx.uk.euro.net (194.134.5.42) 1979.361 ms 1236.307 ms 1669.697 ms
6 195.66.225.69 (195.66.225.69) 1619.707 ms 1916.581 ms 2109.755 ms
7 bbr01-p2-0.lndn01.exodus.net (64.14.178.41) 2619.664 ms 2278.104 ms 2299.685 ms
8 bbr02-p0-0.whkn01.exodus.net (209.185.249.133) 2459.659 ms 2323.401 ms 1179.241 ms
9 * bbr02-p1-0.jrcy01.exodus.net (209.1.169.186) 2070.417 ms 2057.660 ms
10 bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net (209.185.9.98) 2439.806 ms 2557.989 ms 3029.684 ms
11 bbr02-g4-0.stng01.exodus.net (216.33.96.164) 2469.694 ms 2837.975 ms 2589.785 ms
12 bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net (209.185.9.41) 2779.595 ms 558.102 ms 439.726 ms
13 bbr02-g2-0.atln01.exodus.net (216.35.162.4) 1210.195 ms 817.874 ms 1080.277 ms
14 bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net (209.185.9.37) 1629.204 ms 2330.244 ms *
15 bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net (209.1.169.74) 1870.298 ms 2538.128 ms *
16 bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net (209.1.169.229) 3110.349 ms 2017.543 ms 1729.687 ms
17 * dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net (216.33.164.3) 2359.586 ms 2588.266 ms
18 csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net (216.33.164.196) 2459.268 ms 2437.921 ms 2189.682 ms
19 209.67.136.167 (209.67.136.167) 2139.798 ms * 2030.331 ms

traceroute: Warning: www.zone.com has multiple addresses; using 207.46.172.43
traceroute to www.zone.com (207.46.172.43), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 212.64.83.254 (212.64.83.254) 2219.302 ms 2495.912 ms 2559.508 ms
2 195.96.103.42 (195.96.103.42) 1199.253 ms 1756.898 ms 1739.184 ms
3 G1-0.cr2.gv1.core.euro.net (194.134.160.98) 1979.371 ms 2146.109 ms 2549.551 ms
4 POS3-1.cr2.asd3.core.euro.net (194.134.160.153) 2689.380 ms 2437.792 ms 2689.480 ms
5 POS1-1-0.mae-east.us.euro.net (194.134.160.194) 1319.320 ms 737.945 ms 799.502 ms
6 S3-0.mae-west.us.euro.net (194.134.1.2) 1479.437 ms * 1340.294 ms
7 a5-0-3.sanjose1-nbr1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.145.9) 1769.706 ms * *
8 p2-3.crtntx1-ba2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.2.34) 2360.304 ms 3007.459 ms *
9 * p2-0.crtntx1-cr8.bbnplanet.net (4.24.8.198) 1160.374 ms 2057.615 ms
10 p5-0.toucham.bbnplanet.net (4.24.117.66) 1869.722 ms 2017.764 ms 2749.993 ms
11 sea-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.27) 2379.435 ms 2937.489 ms *
12 * * *
13 208.46.239.206 (208.46.239.206) 2410.289 ms 2555.130 ms 2409.647 ms
14 207.46.190.122 (207.46.190.122) 2090.458 ms 2599.205 ms *
15 iuscb11ixc7501-a1-00-1.cp.msft.net (207.46.129.135) 2630.275 ms 1458.431 ms 1439.702 ms
16 iusdgamesc7501-a5-00-1.cp.msft.net (207.46.168.37) 1119.624 ms 1388.424 ms 1569.719 ms
17 * * *
18 * * *
19 * * *
20 * * *
21 * * *
22 * * *
23 * * *
24 * * *
25 * * *
26 * * *
27 * * *
28 * * *
29 * * *
30 * * *

[alt-92]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica>quote:</font><HR>Paz schreef:
wordt steeds vager: pc 123 gaat EXACT door dezelfde routers als ik, maar hij heeft een 6x lagere ping!!![/quote]Maar wat is zijn originating IP?

Hij heeft een 213.*.*.* adres toch?
Ik heb een 24.132.*.* adres. Jij?

[Servowire]

1 402 ms 178 ms 615 ms mep-ren-eth1-3.dekooi.nl [194.235.116.233]
2 483 ms 432 ms 198 ms mep-kooi-ren-feth0-0.dekooi.nl [194.235.116.250]

3 360 ms 191 ms 674 ms mep-glo-eth0.dekooi.nl [194.235.234.1]
4 282 ms 425 ms 179 ms go1-ams-s4.global-one.nl [194.235.74.225]
5 367 ms 442 ms 428 ms car2-ams-s-5-0.global-one.nl [194.235.74.221]
6 1210 ms 1159 ms 1308 ms egr-m6-atm3-0-630.global-one.nl [194.235.236.33]

7 944 ms 1227 ms 1364 ms P1-3.AMSBB2.Amsterdam.opentransit.net [193.251.1
51.249]
8 1358 ms 987 ms 1033 ms P1-2.NYKBB3.NewYork.opentransit.net [193.251.154
.70]
9 1284 ms 1213 ms * P10-0.NYKBB4.NewYork.opentransit.net [193.251.15
0.106]
10 1908 ms 2245 ms 1414 ms P4-0.PALBB1.PaloAlto.opentransit.net [193.251.12
9.114]
11 1020 ms 1069 ms 1068 ms


AAAARGH die Rendo De Kooi
na nummer 11 was het time-out

[oVRoM]

edit:
is trouwens ISDN

Tracing route to www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.0.1
2 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms max1.introweb.nl [195.86.14.68]
3 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms atm1.introweb.nl [195.86.14.71]
4 30 ms 40 ms 30 ms introweb1.apeldoorn.wirehub.net [195.86.26.34]
5 40 ms 40 ms 31 ms hobi-amsterdam.core.atm.nl.wirehub.net [195.86.1
12.130]
6 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms aix.exodus.net [193.148.15.119]
7 30 ms 30 ms 40 ms bbr01-p0-3.amst01.exodus.net [64.14.178.1]
8 50 ms 50 ms 60 ms bbr01-p0-1.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.61]
9 130 ms 120 ms 130 ms bbr02-p0-2.jrcy01.exodus.net [216.32.132.37]
10 140 ms 141 ms 140 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
11 131 ms 140 ms 130 ms bbr02-g3-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.148]
12 140 ms 150 ms 151 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
13 150 ms 160 ms 151 ms bbr02-g6-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.20]
14 171 ms 180 ms 170 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
15 200 ms 200 ms 200 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
16 190 ms 201 ms 200 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
17 201 ms 210 ms 210 ms dcr03-g2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.35]
18 591 ms 400 ms 191 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]

19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica>quote:</font><HR>Op 09 november 2000 22:20 schreef BackSlash32 het volgende:
Maar wat is zijn originating IP?

Hij heeft een 213.*.*.* adres toch?
Ik heb een 24.132.*.* adres. Jij?[/quote]Wat denk je? yep... 24.132.x.x (oh, overigens heb ik dat nummer een x aantal posts al bekend gemaakt met de melding: hack me maar, dus ik kan hem eigenlijk ook wel helemaal schrijven . maar goed ,alle gekheid op een stokje: het is gewoon te gek voor woorden dat -zoals het er op lijkt-, bepaalde chello ipadressen een voorrang krijgen boven anderen.... ???

[alt-92]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica>quote:</font><HR>Op 09 november 2000 22:45 schreef Paz het volgende:
Wat denk je? yep... 24.132.x.x [/quote]Ook H'sum dus.. oud A2000
Als het werkt, werkt het ook goed..<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica>quote:</font><HR> maar goed ,alle gekheid op een stokje: het is gewoon te gek voor woorden dat -zoals het er op lijkt-, bepaalde chello ipadressen een voorrang krijgen boven anderen.... ???[/quote]Wel vreemd ja..
[complot-theorie]
Dat is natuurlijk ter compensatie voor het gebruik van de oude betrouwbaarder A2000 netwerken. Het mag niet te goed werken natuurlijk

[Pc123]

Ik zit hier wel in een hele gunstige wijk met chello

[Verwijderd]

pc123, heb jij een ander soort ipadres? ik zit hier in a'dam met 24.132.x.x. jij?

[Pc123]

ik heb er een met 213.*.*.*

[Pc123]

ik zit een in stad in de buurt van arnhem, volgens mij staat de server in arnhem. Ik download trouwens van amerikaanse sites met 100kb/sec als de server een beetje goed is en van nederlandse tussen de 150 en de 200kb/sec en jij?

[Verwijderd]

nederlands komt gewoon op 150 + binnen (als je bij dl.xs4all.nl een iso vandaan trekt zit je op 180/190 kb/s. Amerika verschilt heel erg. vaak is het droevig, plm. 20/30 kb, maar dat is moeilijk te zeggen, als je me een test download link geeft dan zal ik daarvan de gemiddelde kb/s van geven ok?

[charlie]

Hier in Belgenland gaat alles beter : Mijn resultaten via de kabelverbiding van telenet Pandora :
Bezig met tracen van route naar www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]

voor maximaal 30 hops:



1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms LINUX [192.168.0.1]

2 32 ms 39 ms 20 ms xxxx.kabel.telenet.be [213.224.170.1]

3 * * * Timeout bij opdracht.

4 19 ms 11 ms 9 ms CORE-IBNOCM01.telenet-ops.be [213.224.126.17]

5 19 ms 11 ms 22 ms 213.224.126.35

6 18 ms 12 ms 19 ms r001p200.bebru.ecs-ip.net [212.38.194.117]

7 39 ms 256 ms 227 ms r003p400.uklon.ecs-ip.net [212.38.193.165]

8 29 ms 40 ms 25 ms r001fa910.uklon.ecs-ip.net [212.38.193.209]

9 30 ms 23 ms * linx.core.exodus.net [195.66.224.69]

10 44 ms 41 ms * 212.62.2.209

11 126 ms 118 ms 126 ms bbr02-p0-2.jrcy01.exodus.net [216.32.132.37]

12 135 ms 133 ms 136 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]

13 137 ms 132 ms 131 ms bbr02-g3-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.148]

14 140 ms 140 ms 143 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]

15 144 ms 137 ms 147 ms bbr02-g6-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.20]

16 155 ms 148 ms 146 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]

17 187 ms 190 ms 190 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]

18 188 ms 188 ms 190 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]

19 202 ms 206 ms 193 ms dcr03-g2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.35]

20 191 ms 186 ms 191 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]

21 * 201 ms 199 ms www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]



Trace voltooid.

[Verwijderd]

belgen...

[T-h-i-j-s]

Tracing route to www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 3 ms 11 ms 4 ms doorway.apo.tudelft.nl [130.161.7.1]

2 15 ms 14 ms 9 ms dunet0.router.tudelft.nl [130.161.1.52]

3 13 ms 8 ms 6 ms BR1.Delft.surf.net [145.41.17.129]

4 10 ms 15 ms 17 ms BR7.Amsterdam.surf.net [145.41.7.218]

5 19 ms 26 ms 12 ms BR1.Amsterdam.surf.net [145.41.7.142]

6 16 ms 15 ms 29 ms aix.exodus.net [193.148.15.119]

7 14 ms 8 ms 18 ms bbr01-p1-2.amst01.exodus.net [64.14.178.5]

8 23 ms 28 ms 22 ms bbr01-p0-1.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.61]

9 90 ms 88 ms 91 ms bbr02-p0-0.whkn01.exodus.net [209.185.249.133]

10 91 ms 97 ms 91 ms bbr02-p1-0.jrcy01.exodus.net [209.1.169.186]

11 102 ms 92 ms 115 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]

12 91 ms 97 ms 100 ms bbr02-g4-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.164]

13 120 ms 120 ms 131 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]

14 109 ms 110 ms 110 ms bbr02-g2-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.4]

15 175 ms 175 ms 173 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]

16 172 ms 165 ms 171 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]

17 166 ms 173 ms 165 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]

18 170 ms 164 ms 186 ms dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.3]

19 180 ms 179 ms 183 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]

20 175 ms 177 ms 166 ms www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]



Trace complete.

[Verwijderd]

Sonera alkmaar nrd

16 175 ms 181 ms 176 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
17 182 ms 179 ms 183 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
18 169 ms 178 ms 194 ms dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.3]
19 184 ms 180 ms 178 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]

20 176 ms 184 ms * www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]
21 181 ms 185 ms 182 ms www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]

Trace voltooid.

C:\WINDOWS>ping www.battle.net

Pingen naar www.battle.net [209.67.136.167] met 32 byte gegevens:

Antwoord van 209.67.136.167: bytes=32 time=185ms TTL=108
Antwoord van 209.67.136.167: bytes=32 time=180ms TTL=108
Antwoord van 209.67.136.167: bytes=32 time=183ms TTL=108
Antwoord van 209.67.136.167: bytes=32 time=174ms TTL=108

Pingstatistieken voor 209.67.136.167:
Packets: verzonden = 4, ontvangen = 4, kwijtgeraakt = 0 (0% verlies),
Retourtijd bij benadering in milliseconden:
Minimum = 174ms, Maximum = 185ms, Gemiddeld = 180ms

C:\WINDOWS>

[heuveltje]

chello eindhoven :

Pinging www.battle.net [209.67.136.167] with 32 bytes of da

Reply from 209.67.136.167: bytes=32 time=1303ms TTL=111
Reply from 209.67.136.167: bytes=32 time=1308ms TTL=111
Reply from 209.67.136.167: bytes=32 time=1302ms TTL=111
Reply from 209.67.136.167: bytes=32 time=1306ms TTL=111

Ping statistics for 209.67.136.167:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1302ms, Maximum = 1308ms, Average = 1304ms


en uit de verbinding naar mijn usenetserver in usa krijgt nog zon 5kb/s

en om dat goed te maken disconnect chello mij elk kwartier ff voor een paar minuten

[Mr. B.]

[koppie-peest]
Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.

[WinNT]C:\>tracert www.battle.net

Tracing route to www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms 30 ms 10 ms r1-fex-100m.ndwrt1.lb.nl.home.com [213.51.32.1]

2 20 ms 30 ms 20 ms bb3-s4-0-1-34m.dbsch1.nb.nl.home.com [212.120.67
.101]
3 30 ms 20 ms 30 ms bb1-fa3-7.dbsch1.nb.nl.home.com [212.120.67.177]

4 30 ms 30 ms 20 ms 212.120.67.169
5 100 ms 110 ms 110 ms 212.120.67.110
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 110 ms 110 ms 110 ms bbr02-g3-0.jrcy01.exodus.net [209.67.45.254]
8 110 ms 110 ms 110 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
9 110 ms 120 ms 120 ms bbr02-g3-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.148]
10 130 ms 130 ms 140 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
11 120 ms 130 ms 130 ms bbr02-g6-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.20]
12 150 ms 160 ms 150 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
13 180 ms 190 ms 191 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
14 190 ms 190 ms 211 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
15 190 ms 190 ms 201 ms dcr03-g2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.35]
16 190 ms 191 ms 190 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]

17 180 ms 191 ms 190 ms 209.67.136.167

Trace complete.

[WinNT]C:\>
[/koppie-peest]

@Home Weert

[Verwijderd]

hmmm... er was een reden dat ik er geen mensen van @home en surfnet bij wilde hebben... ik weet alleen niet meer waarom...

[update] oh ja... het lijkt dan zo vernederend... )

nou, wat kunnen we hieraan doen? even bellen naar upc gaat denk ik niet echt helpen...

[0rbit]

Vergelijkingsmateriaal : (CampusNET Utwente)
--------------------------------------------

Pinging 209.67.136.167 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 209.67.136.167: bytes=32 time=170ms TTL=114
Reply from 209.67.136.167: bytes=32 time=160ms TTL=114
Reply from 209.67.136.167: bytes=32 time=161ms TTL=114
Reply from 209.67.136.167: bytes=32 time=170ms TTL=114

Ping statistics for 209.67.136.167:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 160ms, Maximum = 170ms, Average = 165ms

-----

Tracing route to 209.67.136.167 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <10 ms <10 ms 10 ms router.student.utwente.nl [130.89.220.1]
2 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms utgwa-utgwb.routing.utwente.nl [130.89.239.129]

3 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms BR2.Enschede.surf.net [145.41.161.13]
4 <10 ms 10 ms <10 ms BR7.Amsterdam.surf.net [145.41.7.202]
5 <10 ms 10 ms <10 ms BR1.Amsterdam.surf.net [145.41.7.142]
6 <10 ms <10 ms 10 ms aix.exodus.net [193.148.15.119]
7 <10 ms 10 ms <10 ms bbr01-p1-2.amst01.exodus.net [64.14.178.5]
8 10 ms 10 ms 21 ms bbr01-p0-1.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.61]
9 80 ms 80 ms 80 ms bbr02-p0-0.whkn01.exodus.net [209.185.249.133]
10 80 ms 80 ms 81 ms bbr02-p1-0.jrcy01.exodus.net [209.1.169.186]
11 80 ms 91 ms 90 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
12 81 ms 90 ms 90 ms bbr02-g4-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.164]
13 111 ms 120 ms 120 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
14 101 ms 110 ms 110 ms bbr02-g2-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.4]
15 160 ms 160 ms 160 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
16 160 ms 170 ms 160 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
17 170 ms 160 ms 170 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
18 160 ms 170 ms 161 ms dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.3]
19 170 ms 181 ms 170 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]

20 160 ms 171 ms 160 ms 209.67.136.167

[ragger78]

chello frl (heerenveen)
vanaf een 212.* adres naar www.battle.net:

14 31 ms 32 ms 47 ms bbr01-p2-0.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.41]
15 1094 ms 1078 ms 1078 ms bbr02-p0-2.jrcy01.exodus.net [216.32.132.37]
16 1234 ms 1078 ms 1078 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
17 1078 ms 1094 ms 1078 ms bbr02-g3-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.148]
18 1125 ms 1140 ms 1157 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
19 1140 ms 1125 ms 1125 ms bbr02-g6-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.20]
20 1219 ms 1141 ms 1156 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
21 1172 ms 1171 ms 1157 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
22 1156 ms 1156 ms 1140 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
23 1141 ms 1156 ms 1172 ms dcr03-g2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.35]
24 1203 ms 1203 ms 1172 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]
25 1187 ms 1172 ms 1172 ms 209.67.136.167

lijkt erop dat alleen chello'ers met een 213.* adres een normale verbinding krijgen

[cor-gijs]

ja sorry jonges
maar
met m'n single isdn via tip (niet echt de beste ofzo) blijf ik op beide sites zo rond de 190 à 200 ms gaan
nu ben ik effe niet meer zo droevig dat ik geen kabel heb

[Xanthorax]

Xanthorax:9~ # traceroute www.battle.net
traceroute to www.battle.net (209.67.136.167), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 router.student.utwente.nl (130.89.220.1) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
2 utgwa-utgwb.routing.utwente.nl (130.89.239.129) 5 ms 1 ms 1 ms
3 BR2.Enschede.surf.net (145.41.161.13) 1 ms 0 ms 1 ms
4 BR7.Amsterdam.surf.net (145.41.7.210) 3 ms 4 ms 4 ms
5 BR1.Amsterdam.surf.net (145.41.7.142) 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms
6 aix.exodus.net (193.148.15.119) 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms
7 bbr01-p1-2.amst01.exodus.net (64.14.178.5) 5 ms 5 ms 4 ms
8 bbr01-p0-1.lndn01.exodus.net (64.14.178.61) 17 ms 18 ms 17 ms
9 bbr02-p0-0.whkn01.exodus.net (209.185.249.133) 82 ms 82 ms 83 ms
10 bbr02-p1-0.jrcy01.exodus.net (209.1.169.186) 84 ms 82 ms 83 ms
11 bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net (209.185.9.98) 89 ms 89 ms 91 ms
12 bbr02-g4-0.stng01.exodus.net (216.33.96.164) 89 ms 88 ms 88 ms
13 bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net (209.185.9.41) 105 ms 105 ms 105 ms
14 bbr02-g2-0.atln01.exodus.net (216.35.162.4) 158 ms 116 ms 115 ms
15 bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net (209.185.9.37) 164 ms 165 ms 164 ms
16 bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net (209.1.169.74) 165 ms 165 ms 165 ms
17 bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net (209.1.169.229) 164 ms 164 ms 165 ms
18 dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net (216.33.164.3) 175 ms 174 ms 174 ms
19 csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net (216.33.164.196) 164 ms 165 ms 166 ms
20 209.67.136.167 (209.67.136.167) 176 ms 175 ms 178 ms

[Dark]

hier lijkt het ook weer in orde, ook via de kabel, maar eerder was het ook al niet slecht, gezien de rest van de resultaten.



www.pingplotter.com kun je dit tooltje downen, het is een soort route-tracer voor windows.

[Verwijderd]

met casema : ping.....
PING 209.67.136.167 (209.67.136.167): 50 data bytes
50 bytes from 209.67.136.167: icmp_seq=0 time=495 ms
50 bytes from 209.67.136.167: icmp_seq=0 time=508 ms
50 bytes from 209.67.136.167: icmp_seq=0 time=654 ms
50 bytes from 209.67.136.167: icmp_seq=0 time=595 ms
50 bytes from 209.67.136.167: icmp_seq=0 time=245 ms
50 bytes from 209.67.136.167: icmp_seq=0 time=374 ms
timed out
50 bytes from 209.67.136.167: icmp_seq=0 time=646 ms
50 bytes from 209.67.136.167: icmp_seq=0 time=298 ms
50 bytes from 209.67.136.167: icmp_seq=0 time=393 ms

PING Statistics for 209.67.136.167
10 packets transmitted, 9 packets received, 10% packet loss
round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 245/467/654

traceroute

TraceRoute 209.67.136.167 (209.67.136.167)
58 bytes from 209.67.136.167: time=379 ms
1 122 122 195.96.98.253
2 92 -30 194.134.160.98
3 72 -20 194.134.160.130
4 106 34 194.134.5.42
5 78 -28 195.66.225.69
6 170 92 64.14.178.41
7 199 29 216.32.132.37
8 283 84 209.185.9.98
9 381 98 216.33.96.148
10 324 -57 209.185.9.41
11 250 -74 216.35.162.20
12 452 202 209.185.9.37 timed out
13 543 91 209.1.169.74
14 558 15 209.1.169.229
15 519 -39 216.33.164.35
16 411 -108 216.33.164.196
17 554 143 209.67.136.167
host reached

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Dit met een 56K modempje bij planet internet

1 uds-wxs-asd-cr03.wxs.nl (195.121.0.110) 765 ms 127 ms 130 ms
2 195.121.0.181 (195.121.0.181) 130 ms 133 ms 130 ms
3 m6-a.wxs.nl (195.121.0.114) 139 ms 128 ms 130 ms
4 aix.exodus.net (193.148.15.119) 130 ms 127 ms 131 ms
5 bbr01-p1-2.amst01.exodus.net (64.14.178.5) 148 ms 128 ms 129 ms
6 bbr01-p0-1.lndn01.exodus.net (64.14.178.61) 140 ms 138 ms 140 ms
7 bbr02-p0-0.whkn01.exodus.net (209.185.249.133) 209 ms 207 ms 200 ms
8 bbr02-p1-0.jrcy01.exodus.net (209.1.169.186) 219 ms 218 ms 219 ms
9 bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net (209.185.9.98) 220 ms 217 ms 210 ms
10 bbr02-g4-0.stng01.exodus.net (216.33.96.164) 210 ms 218 ms 219 ms
11 bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net (209.185.9.41) 230 ms 227 ms 230 ms
12 bbr02-g2-0.atln01.exodus.net (216.35.162.4) 230 ms 237 ms 230 ms
13 bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net (209.185.9.37) 251 ms 246 ms 250 ms
14 bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net (209.1.169.74) 300 ms 297 ms 300 ms
15 bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net (209.1.169.229) 290 ms 1141 ms 280 ms
16 dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net (216.33.164.3) 289 ms 287 ms 290 ms
17 csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net (216.33.164.196) 290 ms 287 ms 780 ms
18 www.battle.net (209.67.136.167) 289 ms 287 ms 29

[alt-92]

Dial-up via TeleDanmark lijn:<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica>code:</font><HR>Tracing route to www.zone.com [207.46.172.44]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 152 ms 157 ms 148 ms 194.182.130.53
2 154 ms 158 ms 147 ms fe2-0.amsixnxi1.ip.tele.dk [194.182.130.49]
3 247 ms 243 ms 234 ms pos5-0.155M.asdnxi1.ip.tele.dk [195.249.2.129]
4 157 ms 155 ms 160 ms pos0-1.155M.kd4nxg1.ip.tele.dk [195.249.3.18]
5 154 ms 150 ms 145 ms pos3-0.622M.boanxg2.ip.tele.dk [195.249.12.145]

6 154 ms 156 ms 160 ms pos2-0.622M.boanxg1.ip.tele.dk [195.249.2.37]
7 228 ms 238 ms 229 ms pos1-0.155M.NewYork2nxg1.ip.tele.dk [195.249.5.190]
8 233 ms 229 ms 239 ms sl-gw7-nyc-1-1-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.172.21]

9 243 ms 228 ms 229 ms sl-bb12-nyc-3-3.sprintlink.net [144.232.7.81]
10 222 ms 231 ms 240 ms sl-bb20-nyc-6-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.7.121]
11 252 ms 246 ms 251 ms sl-bb22-chi-12-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.18.53]

12 298 ms 288 ms 288 ms sl-bb10-sea-8-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.18.49]
13 294 ms 289 ms 280 ms sl-bb11-sea-9-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.6.89]
14 309 ms 303 ms 302 ms sl-microsoft-10-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.187.230]
15 317 ms 314 ms 318 ms iuscb11ixc7502-a0-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.129.8]
16 326 ms 313 ms 318 ms iusdgamesc7501-a6-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.168.69]
17 327 ms 319 ms 319 ms nickname.msn.nl [207.46.172.44][/quote]Hmmm...

[morpheus]

Tracing route to www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms MORPHEUS [192.168.0.1]
2 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms router.student.utwente.nl [130.89.220.1]
3 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms utgwa-utgwb.routing.utwente.nl [130.89.239.129]
4 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms BR2.Enschede.surf.net [145.41.161.13]
5 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms BR7.Amsterdam.surf.net [145.41.7.206]
6 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms BR1.Amsterdam.surf.net [145.41.7.142]
7 <10 ms <10 ms 16 ms aix.exodus.net [193.148.15.119]
8 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms bbr01-p1-2.amst01.exodus.net [64.14.178.5]
9 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms bbr01-p0-1.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.61]
10 78 ms 94 ms 94 ms bbr02-p0-0.whkn01.exodus.net [209.185.249.133]
11 78 ms 78 ms 78 ms bbr02-p1-0.jrcy01.exodus.net [209.1.169.186]
12 78 ms 94 ms 94 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
13 94 ms 109 ms 94 ms bbr02-g4-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.164]
14 94 ms 109 ms 110 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
15 94 ms 109 ms 110 ms bbr02-g2-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.4]
16 172 ms 172 ms 172 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
17 156 ms 172 ms 156 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
18 172 ms 172 ms 172 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
19 157 ms 172 ms 171 ms dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.3]
20 156 ms 172 ms 157 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]
21 172 ms 172 ms 172 ms 209.67.136.167

Trace complete.

ach, raad maar eens

[CasGas]

209.67.136.167 = battle.net

Ping statistics for 209.67.136.167:
Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 174ms, Maximum = 196ms, Average = 177ms

[Verwijderd]

adsl xs4all



Tracing route to www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



1 14 ms 13 ms <10 ms 195.190.241.68
2 14 ms 14 ms 13 ms 10.136.142.74
3 27 ms 14 ms 27 ms fe4-1-0.cr2.s340.xs4all.net [194.109.11.205]
4 27 ms 14 ms 14 ms pos8-0-0.cr1.pbw.xs4all.net [194.109.11.134]
5 28 ms 27 ms 28 ms pos4-0-0.cr1.sara.xs4all.net [194.109.11.166]
6 28 ms 14 ms 13 ms aix.exodus.net [193.148.15.119]
7 14 ms 27 ms 14 ms bbr01-p1-2.amst01.exodus.net [64.14.178.5]
8 28 ms 27 ms 41 ms bbr01-p0-1.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.61]
9 96 ms 96 ms 97 ms bbr02-p0-0.whkn01.exodus.net [209.185.249.133]
10 110 ms 96 ms 110 ms bbr02-p1-0.jrcy01.exodus.net [209.1.169.186]
11 96 ms 110 ms 124 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
12 110 ms 110 ms 96 ms bbr02-g4-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.164]
13 123 ms 110 ms 124 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
14 110 ms 123 ms 138 ms bbr02-g2-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.4]
15 137 ms 151 ms 137 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
16 165 ms 192 ms 165 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
17 178 ms 179 ms 178 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
18 192 ms 179 ms 178 ms dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.3]
19 178 ms 192 ms 179 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]
20 179 ms * 179 ms 209.67.136.167
Trace complete.

Tracing route to www.zone.com [207.46.172.48]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



1 13 ms 14 ms 14 ms 195.190.241.68
2 14 ms 14 ms 13 ms 10.136.142.74
3 14 ms 13 ms 14 ms fe4-1-0.cr2.s340.xs4all.net [194.109.11.205]
4 14 ms 14 ms 13 ms pos8-0-0.cr1.pbw.xs4all.net [194.109.11.134]
5 14 ms 28 ms 13 ms pos4-0-0.cr1.sara.xs4all.net [194.109.11.166]
6 13 ms 28 ms 13 ms par10.asd-kl.unisrc.net [194.151.250.65]
7 13 ms 28 ms 13 ms rif01.asd-kl.unisrc.net [194.151.0.133]
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 14 ms 27 ms 14 ms asd-nr16.NL.kpnqwest.net [134.222.199.133]
11 14 ms 27 ms 14 ms Ledn-cr01.NL.kpnqwest.net [134.222.228.82]
12 96 ms 96 ms 96 ms Nyk-cr03.NY.US.kpnqwest.net [134.222.228.70]
13 * 96 ms 96 ms jfk-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.30.141]
14 110 ms 96 ms 110 ms 205.171.4.82
15 96 ms 96 ms 110 ms acr2-loopback.NewYorknyr.cw.net [206.24.194.62]
16 96 ms 110 ms 96 ms corerouter2.WestOrange.cw.net [204.70.9.139]
17 178 ms 193 ms 178 ms ngcore1.Seattle.cw.net [204.70.9.129]
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 165 ms 165 ms 164 ms iuscb11ixc7501-a1-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.129.135]
20 178 ms 179 ms 178 ms iusdgamesc7501-a6-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.168.69]
21 179 ms 178 ms 179 ms nickname.msn.nl [207.46.172.48]
Trace complete.

[alt-92]

en nu weer chello:

Tracing route to www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 3 ms 1 ms 2 ms h9rtr1.a2000.nl [62.108.10.1]
2 2 ms 3 ms 2 ms h0rtr1-h9rtr1.a2000.nl [62.108.0.13]
3 2 ms 2 ms 4 ms am00rt03.brain.upc.nl-h0rtr1.a2000.nl [62.108.0.81]
4 3 ms 3 ms 2 ms 212.142.32.33
5 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 212.142.32.43
6 3 ms 2 ms 4 ms nl-ams-rd-02-pos-4-0.chello.com [213.46.161.49]

7 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms nl-ams-rd-01-ge-7-0.chello.com [213.46.161.65]
8 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms 213.46.160.13
9 15 ms 12 ms 14 ms 213.46.160.10
10 13 ms 14 ms 13 ms 213.46.160.45
11 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms 213.46.160.54
12 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms uk-lon-ri-01-pos-5-0-0.chello.com [213.46.174.6]

13 13 ms 13 ms 18 ms 195.66.225.69
14 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms bbr01-p2-0.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.41]
15 82 ms 82 ms 84 ms bbr02-p0-0.whkn01.exodus.net [209.185.249.133]
16 83 ms 83 ms 85 ms bbr02-p1-0.jrcy01.exodus.net [209.1.169.186]
17 88 ms 88 ms 89 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
18 91 ms 90 ms 91 ms bbr02-g4-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.164]
19 106 ms 106 ms 105 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
20 106 ms 109 ms 105 ms bbr02-g2-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.4]
21 164 ms 164 ms 161 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
22 162 ms 162 ms 165 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
23 161 ms 162 ms 163 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
24 164 ms 162 ms 163 ms dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.3]
25 165 ms 163 ms 163 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]

26 162 ms 163 ms 164 ms www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]

Trace complete.

Tracing route to www.zone.com [207.46.172.48]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 6 ms 2 ms 2 ms h9rtr1.a2000.nl [62.108.10.1]
2 6 ms 4 ms 3 ms h0rtr1-h9rtr1.a2000.nl [62.108.0.13]
3 4 ms 2 ms 2 ms am00rt03.brain.upc.nl-h0rtr1.a2000.nl [62.108.0.81]
4 8 ms 2 ms 8 ms 212.142.32.33
5 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms 212.142.32.44
6 4 ms 3 ms 5 ms nl-ams-rd-01-pos-4-0.chello.com [213.46.161.53]

7 5 ms 3 ms 3 ms nlams303-tc-p9-3.ebone.net [195.158.234.173]
8 5 ms 5 ms 6 ms bebru203-tc-p1-0.ebone.net [195.158.225.85]
9 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms bebru204-tc-p2-0.ebone.net [195.158.225.82]
10 12 ms 13 ms 13 ms gblon505-tc-p1-0.ebone.net [195.158.232.41]
11 80 ms 80 ms 79 ms 195.158.229.33
12 99 ms 96 ms 96 ms POS3-3.BR3.NYC9.ALTER.NET [137.39.52.65]
13 83 ms 85 ms 87 ms 538.at-5-0-0.XR2.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.24.102]

14 83 ms 82 ms 85 ms 0.so-3-0-0.TR2.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.22.94]
15 183 ms 189 ms 190 ms 125.ATM6-0.TR2.SEA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.140.94]
16 185 ms 184 ms 183 ms 198.ATM6-0.XR2.SEA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.200.113]

17 184 ms 184 ms 184 ms 194.ATM4-0.GW3.SEA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.201.29]
18 169 ms 168 ms 171 ms 157.130.177.154
19 174 ms 171 ms 170 ms iuscb11ixc7502-a0-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.129.8]
20 173 ms 171 ms 171 ms iusdgamesc7501-a6-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.168.69]
21 171 ms 177 ms 173 ms nickname.msn.nl [207.46.172.48]

Trace complete.



Conclusie:

Je mag alleen 's ochtends gamen van Chello

[Verwijderd]

even vragen aan mijn baas of ik vanwege overmacht 's ochtends mag gaan gamen

[Big-Foot]

Bezig met tracen van route naar zone.com [207.46.172.44]


1 49 ms 33 ms 32 ms s-isdn37.s340.xs4all.net [194.109.103.177]
2 40 ms 30 ms 35 ms 194.109.103.254
3 31 ms 40 ms 30 ms pos8-0-0.cr1.pbw.xs4all.net [194.109.11.134]
4 30 ms 30 ms 39 ms pos4-0-0.cr1.sara.xs4all.net [194.109.11.166]
5 33 ms 33 ms 37 ms par10.asd-kl.unisrc.net [194.151.250.65]
6 35 ms 55 ms 34 ms rif01.asd-kl.unisrc.net [194.151.0.133]
7 35 ms 35 ms 29 ms asd-dc2-ipc-cr02.nl.kpn.net [195.190.232.85]
8 35 ms 33 ms 35 ms asd-dc2-ias-ur10.nl.kpn.net [195.190.228.58]
9 133 ms 111 ms 130 ms asd-nr16.NL.kpnqwest.net [134.222.199.133]
10 130 ms 58 ms 75 ms Ledn-cr01.NL.kpnqwest.net [134.222.228.82]
11 276 ms 185 ms 125 ms Nyk-cr03.NY.US.kpnqwest.net [134.222.228.22]
12 120 ms 125 ms 163 ms jfk-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.30.141]
13 151 ms 129 ms 119 ms 205.171.4.82
14 134 ms 129 ms 114 ms acr2-loopback.NewYorknyr.cw.net [206.24.194.62]
15 121 ms 124 ms 124 ms corerouter2.WestOrange.cw.net [204.70.9.139]
16 199 ms 214 ms 228 ms ngcore1.Seattle.cw.net [204.70.9.129]
17 * * * Timeout bij opdracht.
18 192 ms 200 ms 193 ms iuscb11ixc7502-a1-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.129.136]
19 194 ms 200 ms 200 ms iusdgamesc7501-a5-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.168.37]
20 197 ms 194 ms 194 ms nickname.msn.nl [207.46.172.44]

Trace voltooid.

Redelijk goed van XS4ALL dacht ik zo

[cosmoOo]

chello brabant

D:\>tracert www.battle.net

Tracing route to www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms GEORGE [192.168.0.1]
2 20 ms 30 ms 30 ms c18794065.telekabel.chello.nl [212.187.94.65]
3 20 ms 30 ms 30 ms V203.hm00rs02.net.upc.nl [212.142.31.97]
4 30 ms 20 ms 30 ms Gig15-0.hm00rt04.brain.upc.nl [212.142.31.218]
5 30 ms 50 ms 20 ms srp8-0.hm00rt01.brain.upc.nl [212.142.32.65]
6 20 ms 20 ms 40 ms srp0-0.am00rt01.brain.upc.nl [212.142.32.1]
7 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms srp0-0.am00rt05.brain.upc.nl [212.142.32.43]
8 30 ms 40 ms 40 ms nl-ams-rd-02-pos-4-0.chello.com [213.46.161.49]

9 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms 213.46.160.17
10 30 ms 30 ms 31 ms 213.46.160.5
11 31 ms 40 ms 30 ms 213.46.160.10
12 40 ms 50 ms 50 ms 213.46.160.45
13 40 ms 40 ms 60 ms 213.46.160.54
14 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms uk-lon-ri-01-pos-5-0-0.chello.com [213.46.174.6]

15 41 ms 50 ms 50 ms 195.66.225.69
16 30 ms 40 ms 40 ms bbr01-p2-0.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.41]
17 110 ms 120 ms 120 ms bbr02-p0-2.jrcy01.exodus.net [216.32.132.37]
18 120 ms 120 ms 130 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
19 120 ms 130 ms 130 ms bbr02-g3-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.148]
20 140 ms 140 ms 140 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
21 140 ms 140 ms 130 ms bbr02-g6-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.20]
22 201 ms 190 ms 200 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
23 200 ms 200 ms 201 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
24 200 ms 210 ms 191 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
25 190 ms 200 ms 201 ms dcr03-g2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.35]
26 200 ms 200 ms 191 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]

27 200 ms 201 ms 200 ms 209.67.136.167

Trace complete.

[Verwijderd]

het probleem speelt alleen 's avonds, of beter gezegd: vanaf 4 uur of zo. mijn huidige status:

6 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms 212.142.32.43
7 5 ms 5 ms 7 ms nl-ams-rd-02-pos-4-0.chello.com [213.46.161.49]
8 5 ms 5 ms 6 ms nl-ams-rd-01-ge-7-0.chello.com [213.46.161.65]
9 5 ms 5 ms 6 ms nlams303-tc-p9-3.ebone.net [195.158.234.173]
10 7 ms 7 ms 9 ms bebru203-tc-p1-0.ebone.net [195.158.225.85]
11 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms bebru204-tc-p2-0.ebone.net [195.158.225.82]
12 20 ms 21 ms 15 ms gblon505-tc-p1-0.ebone.net [195.158.232.41]
13 84 ms 83 ms 83 ms 95.158.229.45
14 89 ms 84 ms 84 ms POS3-3.BR3.NYC9.ALTER.NET [137.39.52.65]
15 97 ms 93 ms 104 ms 538.at-5-0-0.XR1.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.24.98]
16 97 ms 97 ms 88 ms 0.so-4-0-0.TR1.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.15.110]
17 188 ms 186 ms 186 ms 125.at-5-0-0.TR1.POR3.ALTER.NET [152.63.6.34]
18 196 ms 197 ms 190 ms 197.ATM7-0.XR1.SEA1.ALTER.NET [152.63.105.1]
19 188 ms 194 ms 193 ms 195.ATM5-0.GW3.SEA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.201.25]
20 179 ms 184 ms * 157.130.177.154
21 173 ms 180 ms 172 ms iuscb11ixc7501-a1-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.129.135]
22 179 ms 177 ms 179 ms iusdgamesc7501-a5-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.168.37]
23 177 ms 180 ms 180 ms nickname.msn.nl [207.46.172.44]

[Pc123]

bij mij doet het 's avonds dus ook goed maar dat komt omdat ik een wijk zit met heel weinig chello gebruikers

[ragger78]

ik heb nog geen kans gezien het smorgens te proberen, maar hier is het nu iig bagger:

13 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 195.66.225.69
14 47 ms 63 ms 47 ms bbr01-p2-0.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.41]
15 1141 ms 1140 ms 1188 ms bbr02-p0-2.jrcy01.exodus.net [216.32.132.37]
16 1172 ms 1156 ms 1156 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]

Het vage is dat ik de vertraging oploop van hop 14->15 terwijl dit bij anderen die over dezelfde routers gaan niet het geval is ?

[Verwijderd]

bjorge: het lijkt bij iedereen op dat moment voor te komen, alleen heb jij misschien iets minder hops nodig om bij die bewuste router te komen. het rare vind ik nog altijd dat ik op de eerste router van die provider WEL goed binnenkom, maar dat pas bij de tweede router het probleem begint...

[Milmoor]

De analyse laat ik aan beter geinformeerden over, maar het probleem lijkt bij mij in het eerste stukje te zitten. Ik hang via een LAN (proef studentenhuizen UT, waar een van de deelnemers "stout" is) via de kabel (essent) aan de UT (meen via 2 mbit) en daarna verder via Surfnet.

Tracing route to www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <10 ms <10 ms paalhuis.kasbah [192.168.0.1]
2 683 ms 778 ms 736 ms router-kabel.kabel.utwente.nl [130.89.64.1]
3 853 ms 764 ms 772 ms BR2.Enschede.surf.net [145.41.161.13]
4 607 ms 619 ms 763 ms BR7.Amsterdam.surf.net [145.41.7.169]
5 788 ms 738 ms 744 ms BR1.Amsterdam.surf.net [145.41.7.142]
6 675 ms 693 ms 847 ms aix.exodus.net [193.148.15.119]
7 442 ms 620 ms 647 ms bbr01-p1-2.amst01.exodus.net [64.14.178.5]
8 831 ms 813 ms 780 ms bbr01-p0-1.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.61]
9 747 ms 847 ms 681 ms bbr02-p0-0.whkn01.exodus.net [209.185.249.133]
10 576 ms 962 ms 856 ms bbr02-p1-0.jrcy01.exodus.net [209.1.169.186]
11 849 ms 895 ms 895 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
12 691 ms 641 ms 562 ms bbr02-g4-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.164]
13 941 ms 572 ms 774 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
14 902 ms 890 ms 837 ms bbr02-g2-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.4]
15 950 ms 892 ms 863 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
16 842 ms 877 ms 904 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
17 797 ms 713 ms 881 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
18 810 ms 852 ms 901 ms dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.3]
19 993 ms 737 ms 788 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]
20 955 ms 903 ms 989 ms www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]

Trace complete.

[Verwijderd]

hmmm. volgens mij is bij jullie het probleem niet zo heel erg moeilijk te traceren of die router draait gewoon zwaar over zijn toeren of hij staat te klapperen... in beide gevallen zou ik daar niet blij van worden...

[ragger78]

het lijkt aan de routering te liggen.
ik heb wat zitten pielen met verschillende traces vanuit het exodus netwerk naar verschillende adressen binnen chello.
De heen route naar battle.net is over het algemeen voor iedereen ongeveer gelijk, maar de route terug kan verschillen.
voor sommige gaat de route via exodus usa naar exodus london = ok (vb 213.93.22.1)
voor anderen gaat het via level3 usa naar level3 london = ook ok. (vb 62.108.10.1)
bij mij gaat het via level3 usa naar level3 a'dam = niet ok (vb 212.187.62.1) ~1 sec. er bovenop

[T.T.]

ik heb ook een vage, van superweb, via netwerk, in windows:

TraceRoute to host www.battle.net

1 192.168.0.1 MA 0 ms
2 No response from this hop
3 62.58.94.221 Unavailable 271 ms
4 213.171.128.82 Unavailable 441 ms
5 213.171.128.65 Unavailable 130 ms
6 213.35.92.69 Unavailable 120 ms
7 143.178.128.149 Unavailable 220 ms
8 212.189.181.209 pos-2-2.core-0.vt.ip.versatel.net 120 ms
9 213.35.124.6 pos1-1-brc1-lonsw.uk.speedport.net 141 ms
10 213.35.124.94 conxion-us-gw2-lonsw.uk.speedport.net 260 ms
11 206.204.250.73 chilcis-08-pos51.conxion.net 230 ms
12 206.204.250.45 chilcis-04-ge10.conxion.net 421 ms
13 206.204.250.98 decocis-01-pos20.conxion.net 741 ms
14 206.204.250.101 svcacis-04-pos53.conxion.net 651 ms
15 198.32.128.25 pb-nap-OC3-1.exodus.net 471 ms
16 216.33.147.36 bbr02-g6-0.sntc01.exodus.net 621 ms
17 209.185.249.142 bbr01-p5-0.sntc03.exodus.net 891 ms
18 216.32.173.206 bbr02-p5-0.irvn01.exodus.net 811 ms
19 216.33.164.3 dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net 671 ms
20 216.33.164.196 csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net 291 ms
21 No response from this hop
22 209.67.136.167 Unavailable 280 ms

[Verwijderd]

*juich*

Maar goed, thuis heb ik ook gewoon chello... maar gelukkig speel ik nooit spelletjes

1 fwi-gw-edu.wins.uva.nl (146.50.9.16) 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms
2 eth5-0-3.re-r2.net.uva.nl (145.18.253.237) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
3 atm4-0-2.wcw-r1.net.uva.nl (145.18.253.41) 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms
4 BR7.Amsterdam.surf.net (145.41.10.57) 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms
5 BR1.Amsterdam-ZO.surf.net (145.41.7.94) 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms
6 POS9-0.hsa1.ams1.Level3.net (212.72.47.1) 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms
7 loopback0.core1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net (212.72.32.1) 3 ms 2 ms 2 ms
8 63.211.89.70 (63.211.89.70) 86 ms 87 ms 89 ms
9 lo0.mp2.Weehawken1.level3.net (209.247.8.254) 91 ms 93 ms 93 ms
10 so-0-2-0.mp2.NewYork1.level3.net (209.247.8.6) 87 ms 87 ms 88 ms
11 pos9-0.core2.NewYork1.level3.net (209.247.10.46) 90 ms 91 ms 92 ms
12 206.24.193.117 (206.24.193.117) 80 ms 77 ms 77 ms
13 corerouter2.WestOrange.cw.net (204.70.9.139) 80 ms 81 ms 83 ms
14 bordercore3.WestOrange.cw.net (166.48.8.1) 83 ms 85 ms 77 ms
15 166.48.240.6 (166.48.240.6) 91 ms 91 ms 93 ms
16 core1.nyc01.supercore-ERX1400.thorn.net (216.213.102.2) 85 ms 86 ms 86 ms
17 63.238.16.17 (63.238.16.17) 191 ms 189 ms 195 ms
18 neo.zone.net (198.240.0.2) 188 ms * 165 ms

[alt-92]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica>quote:</font><HR>Op 11 november 2000 22:35 schreef Paz het volgende:
hmmm. volgens mij is bij jullie het probleem niet zo heel erg moeilijk te traceren of die router draait gewoon zwaar over zijn toeren of hij staat te klapperen... in beide gevallen zou ik daar niet blij van worden...[/quote]ROTFL..dat is een understatement van hebikjoudaar

Maar een klapperende router is idd niet fijn.
Ik heb de indruk zoals bjorge al zei dat er op de retour-route(r) vanaf battle.net het een en ander ook niet goed loopt.

[l.d._]

Destination: www.battle.net

-#--------------Node Name---------------IP Address------Location-----------RT*--High---Low---Avg-Tot---D-Who
1 hercules 192.168.1.3 52.370N, 4.900E 0 0 0 0 1 0
2 192.168.1.1 Unknown 0 0 0 0 2 0
3 rout-erm3-e1-d.gelrevision.nl 195.86.98.1 Unknown 15 31 15 23 2 0
4 zutrt2-e1.gelrevision.nl 195.86.255.237 Unknown 16 31 16 23 2 0
5 zutrt3.gelrevision.nl 195.86.58.250 Unknown 31 31 31 31 2 0
6 padi-atm1-0.695.apeldoorn.wirehub.net 195.86.111.10 Unknown 32 78 32 55 2 0
7 jodi-amsterdam.core.atm.nl.wirehub.net 195.86.112.129 52.367N, 4.900E 63 63 31 47 2 0
8 aix.exodus.net 193.148.15.119 Unknown 47 47 47 47 2 0
9 bbr01-p0-3.amst01.exodus.net 64.14.178.1 Unknown 31 93 31 62 2 0
10 bbr01-p0-1.lndn01.exodus.net 64.14.178.61 Unknown 63 63 47 55 3 1
11 bbr02-p0-2.jrcy01.exodus.net 216.32.132.37 Unknown 203 203 125 164 2 0
12 bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net 209.185.9.98 Unknown 125 156 125 140 2 0
13 bbr02-g4-0.stng01.exodus.net 216.33.96.164 Unknown 156 172 156 164 3 1
14 bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net 209.185.9.41 Unknown 172 172 140 156 2 0
15 bbr02-g2-0.atln01.exodus.net 216.35.162.4 Unknown 141 156 141 148 2 0
16 bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net 209.185.9.37 Unknown 297 297 187 242 2 0
17 bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net 209.1.169.74 Unknown - 234 234 234 3 2
18 bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net 209.1.169.229 33.708N,117.758W - 203 203 203 3 2
19 dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net 216.33.164.3 33.708N,117.758W - 219 219 219 3 2
20 csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net 216.33.164.196 33.708N,117.758W - 234 234 234 3 2
21 209.67.136.167 Unknown - 0 0 0 2 2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*All times in milliseconds (ms), D=Dropped packets
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
November 12, 2000 19:35:0

[Verwijderd]

Tracing route to www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 40 ms 40 ms 30 ms r1-fex-100m.landg1.lb.nl.home.com [213.51.16.1]

2 40 ms 30 ms 20 ms bb3-s4-1-0-34m.dbsch1.nb.nl.home.com [212.120.67
.97]
3 40 ms 50 ms 30 ms bb1-fa3-7.dbsch1.nb.nl.home.com [212.120.67.177]

4 21 ms 30 ms 50 ms bb1-pos1-2-155m.amsix.nap.nl.home.com [212.120.6
7.133]
5 40 ms 30 ms 50 ms aix.exodus.net [193.148.15.119]
6 50 ms 20 ms 50 ms bbr01-p1-2.amst01.exodus.net [64.14.178.5]
7 50 ms 70 ms 50 ms bbr01-p0-1.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.61]
8 1412 ms 1412 ms 1412 ms bbr02-p0-0.whkn01.exodus.net [209.185.249.133]
9 1462 ms 1562 ms 1532 ms bbr02-p1-0.jrcy01.exodus.net [209.1.169.186]
10 1402 ms 1382 ms 1412 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
11 1452 ms 1422 ms 1402 ms bbr02-g3-0.stng01.exodus.net [216.33.96.148]
12 1372 ms 1332 ms 1342 ms bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
13 1302 ms 1282 ms 1302 ms bbr02-g6-0.atln01.exodus.net [216.35.162.20]
14 1362 ms 1382 ms 1462 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
15 1462 ms 1462 ms 1412 ms bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
16 1372 ms 1352 ms 1392 ms bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
17 1392 ms * 1101 ms dcr03-g2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.35]
18 731 ms 531 ms 420 ms csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]

19 241 ms 260 ms 251 ms 209.67.136.167

Trace complete.

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Tracing route to www.zone.com [207.46.172.43]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 60 ms 30 ms 30 ms r1-fex-100m.landg1.lb.nl.home.com [213.51.16.1]

2 40 ms 20 ms 40 ms bb3-s4-1-0-34m.dbsch1.nb.nl.home.com [212.120.67
.97]
3 80 ms 30 ms 40 ms bb1-fe3-1-100m.dbsch1.nb.nl.home.com [212.120.67
.113]
4 50 ms 40 ms 40 ms 212.120.67.169
5 120 ms 130 ms 140 ms 212.120.67.110
6 131 ms 120 ms 110 ms c1-pos8-0.cmdnnj1.home.net [24.7.65.229]
7 121 ms 130 ms 140 ms 24.7.65.238
8 140 ms 151 ms 140 ms c1-pos3-0.chcgil1.home.net [24.7.64.173]
9 150 ms 161 ms 170 ms c1-pos0-0.lnmtco1.home.net [24.7.65.150]
10 180 ms 181 ms 200 ms c1-pos1-0.sttlwa1.home.net [24.7.64.5]
11 250 ms 201 ms 200 ms iuscmdistc1202-a1-0-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.190.33
]
12 210 ms 200 ms 191 ms iuscmdistc7503-h6-00.cp.msft.net [207.46.190.97]

13 220 ms 201 ms 190 ms iuscb11ixc7502-a0-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.129.8
]
14 191 ms 200 ms 190 ms iusdgamesc7501-a5-00-1.cp.msft.net [207.46.168.3
7]
15 170 ms 190 ms 190 ms nickname.msn.nl [207.46.172.43]

Trace complete.

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@home
TraceRoute - Sunday, November 12, 2000 22:42:51
Generated by CyberKit Version 2.5
Copyright © 1996-2000 by Luc Neijens

Address: www.battle.net
Number of Packets: 1
Packet size: 64
Trace Hop 1 through 30
Timeout: 5
Resolve Addresses: Yes
Don't Fragment: No

#1 beneden (192.168.0.1): TTL Exceeded, ttl=128, 10 ms
#2 r1-fex-100m.venra1.lb.nl.home.com (213.51.36.1): TTL Exceeded, ttl=254, 110 ms
#3 bb3-s5-1-1-34m.dbsch1.nb.nl.home.com (212.120.67.105): TTL Exceeded, ttl=253, 50 ms
#4 bb1-fe3-1-100m.dbsch1.nb.nl.home.com (212.120.67.113): TTL Exceeded, ttl=252, 50 ms
#5 bb1-pos1-2-155m.amsix.nap.nl.home.com (212.120.67.133): TTL Exceeded, ttl=251, 80 ms
#6 aix.exodus.net (193.148.15.119): TTL Exceeded, ttl=250, 121 ms
#7 bbr01-p0-3.amst01.exodus.net (64.14.178.1): TTL Exceeded, ttl=249, 80 ms
#8 bbr01-p0-1.lndn01.exodus.net (64.14.178.61): TTL Exceeded, ttl=248, 50 ms
#9 bbr02-p0-2.jrcy01.exodus.net (216.32.132.37): TTL Exceeded, ttl=243, 1212 ms
#10 bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net (209.185.9.98): TTL Exceeded, ttl=242, 1251 ms
#11 bbr02-g4-0.stng01.exodus.net (216.33.96.164): TTL Exceeded, ttl=241, 1322 ms
#12 bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net (209.185.9.41): TTL Exceeded, ttl=240, 1332 ms
#13 bbr02-g2-0.atln01.exodus.net (216.35.162.4): TTL Exceeded, ttl=239, 1342 ms
#14 bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net (209.185.9.37): TTL Exceeded, ttl=240, 1372 ms
#15 bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net (209.1.169.74): TTL Exceeded, ttl=241, 1372 ms
#16 bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net (209.1.169.229): TTL Exceeded, ttl=242, 1292 ms
#17 dcr03-g6-0.irvn01.exodus.net (216.33.164.3): TTL Exceeded, ttl=242, 1372 ms
#18 csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net (216.33.164.196): TTL Exceeded, ttl=50, 1362 ms
#19 Unavailable (209.67.136.167): Echo Reply, ttl=113, 1282 ms

Statistics: Out 19, in 19, loss 0%, times (min/avg/max) 10/792/1372 ms


TraceRoute - Sunday, November 12, 2000 22:44:55
Generated by CyberKit Version 2.5
Copyright © 1996-2000 by Luc Neijens

Address: www.zone.com
Number of Packets: 1
Packet size: 64
Trace Hop 1 through 30
Timeout: 5
Resolve Addresses: Yes
Don't Fragment: No

#1 beneden (192.168.0.1): TTL Exceeded, ttl=128, 0 ms
#2 r1-fex-100m.venra1.lb.nl.home.com (213.51.36.1): TTL Exceeded, ttl=254, 30 ms
#3 bb3-s5-1-1-34m.dbsch1.nb.nl.home.com (212.120.67.105): TTL Exceeded, ttl=253, 50 ms
#4 bb1-fa3-7.dbsch1.nb.nl.home.com (212.120.67.177): TTL Exceeded, ttl=252, 120 ms
#5 Unavailable (212.120.67.169): TTL Exceeded, ttl=251, 30 ms
#6 Unavailable (212.120.67.110): TTL Exceeded, ttl=250, 120 ms
#7 c1-pos8-0.cmdnnj1.home.net (24.7.65.229): TTL Exceeded, ttl=249, 120 ms
#8 Unavailable (24.7.65.238): TTL Exceeded, ttl=248, 130 ms
#9 c1-pos3-0.chcgil1.home.net (24.7.64.173): TTL Exceeded, ttl=247, 180 ms
#10 c1-pos0-0.lnmtco1.home.net (24.7.65.150): TTL Exceeded, ttl=246, 160 ms
#11 c1-pos1-0.sttlwa1.home.net (24.7.64.5): TTL Exceeded, ttl=245, 280 ms
#12 iuscmdistc1202-a1-0-1.cp.msft.net (207.46.190.33): TTL Exceeded, ttl=244, 200 ms
#13 iuscmdistc7503-h6-00.cp.msft.net (207.46.190.97): TTL Exceeded, ttl=243, 231 ms
#14 iuscb11ixc7501-a1-00-1.cp.msft.net (207.46.129.135): TTL Exceeded, ttl=242, 190 ms
#15 iusdgamesc7501-a5-00-1.cp.msft.net (207.46.168.37): TTL Exceeded, ttl=241, 240 ms
#16 nickname.msn.nl (207.46.172.44): Echo Reply, ttl=49, 180 ms

Statistics: Out 16, in 16, loss 0%, times (min/avg/max) 30/141/280 ms

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uit de trace van deur blijkt dat ook sommige @home gebruikers er dus last van hebben... maar waar dat nou aan ligt... stel DAT het aan de retourgaande ping ligt, dan nog kunnen we daar niet echt veel aan doen. conclusie: genaaid

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Kan iemand niet ff alle resultaten in een grafiekje gooien?

[valkenier]

FF de Casema aan het woord laten:

3 * * * Timeout bij opdracht.
4 * 344 ms * F0-0-0.utr-bfr.nl.euro.net [194.134.160.37]
5 * * * Timeout bij opdracht.
6 368 ms * * S2-0.linx.uk.euro.net [194.134.5.42]
7 * * * Timeout bij opdracht.
8 * 88 ms * bbr01-p2-0.lndn01.exodus.net [64.14.178.41]
9 * * 289 ms bbr02-p0-0.whkn01.exodus.net [209.185.249.133]
10 171 ms 139 ms * bbr02-p1-0.jrcy01.exodus.net [209.1.169.186]
11 279 ms * 176 ms bbr01-p5-0.stng01.exodus.net [209.185.9.98]
12 * * * Timeout bij opdracht.
13 * 238 ms * bbr01-p5-0.atln01.exodus.net [209.185.9.41]
14 * * * Timeout bij opdracht.
15 230 ms * 345 ms bbr01-p5-0.dlls01.exodus.net [209.185.9.37]
16 258 ms * * bbr02-p1-0.elsg01.exodus.net [209.1.169.74]
17 * 252 ms * bbr01-p2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [209.1.169.229]
18 * 264 ms * dcr03-g2-0.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.35]
19 * 459 ms * csr01-vlan243.irvn01.exodus.net [216.33.164.196]

20 259 ms 280 ms * www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]
21 * * * Timeout bij opdracht.
22 * * 272 ms www.battle.net [209.67.136.167]

[ragger78]

voor de chello-ers,
het lijkt erop dat de routing wat is aangepast. Ik ga iig niet meer over level3 en mijn ping is van ~1500 gezakt naar ~200