vanbekkumclan is trots www.losalcoholicos.nl member
Het is momenteel erg druk met verschillende draadjes waarin info staat, maar
zoals je hier bijvoorbeeld kan zien gaat D-Net morgen een openbare discussie aan over
de toekomst, daarnaast zijn er uiteraard ook nog eens verschillende andere projecten waar je aan mee zou kunnen gaan doen ....
zoals je hier bijvoorbeeld kan zien gaat D-Net morgen een openbare discussie aan over
de toekomst, daarnaast zijn er uiteraard ook nog eens verschillende andere projecten waar je aan mee zou kunnen gaan doen ....
RC5-72 heel snel dus:
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 06:37
Actually, when you take our current keyrate and project it onto RC5-72, the estimate is lower than our estimate of the time to complete RC5-64 when we started that project.
Sorry, I don't have exact numbers here on the train as I'm composing this. I believe in 1997 we thought it would take about 20 years to do RC5-64. Today we think RC5-72 will take about 10-12 years. Both estimates are based on 0 growth over our current keyrate at the time of the estimate. Faster/stronger processors, optimized cores and greater participation will all tend to shorten this number over time.
Yes, these numbers take into account that RC5-72 has 256 times as much work to be done as RC5-64, and that RC5-72 will require 50% more registers than RC5-64 (three registers instead of two). Our coders tell us that on some platforms, the core will achieve about 99% of the performance of the RC5-64 core! (Go coders!)
I can't give you a release date for the new clients (I don't know myself), but I can tell you that I heard the coders talking about having testable clients, and are working on putting together a test network. The testing could turn something up that sends us back to the drawing boards (the nature of coding), but we might also have beta clients before very long.
We know not everyone is excited about OGR, and that's fine - we plan to provide alternatives. Getting RC5-72 operational is our highest priority - we're working very hard to get the new clients and proxies out as soon as humanly possible without compromising the results. As Nugget hinted in the announcement, we're also in the process of investigating cores for new, non-OGR, non-RC5 projects. Naturally, these developments were put on hold when we found out about the RC5 win. RC5 has been our mainstay for years, and a major draw for new participants (especially the stats-hungry kind), so we're not likely to drop it.
We've also been working on updates to the OGR core. Our best brains tell us that the net result of the problems in the OGR core don't mean we have incorrect results, only incomplete results. The core is capable of correctly detecting the shortest ruler, but not of accurately counting the total number of nodes in each stub. Stubs over a certain length would be discarded without being counted. So while we can be reasonably sure of finding a shorter ruler if it exists, we can't be sure of the counts for all stubs. This means if someone else calculates the same stubs using a different method, they won't get the same totals, calling our results into question. (I may be oversimplifying here - this is my best understanding of the issues
- - perhaps someone else in DCTI can jump in with corrections.)
This is a very exciting time for us, and even a little scary - we want the new RC5 running as badly as you do! Stick with us, and we promise you won't be disappointed.
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Bruce Wilson <bwilson@distributed.net>
PGP KeyID: 5430B995, http://www.toomuchblue.com/
Ubero: #2, Euler: #1, GOT: #1, Des: #1, Zeta: #1, Eon: #3, OGR-24: #3, OGR-25: #7,
LM: #7, AP: #5, DF: #19, D2OL: #37, SOB: #50, TSC: #63, RC5: #96
wat denk je?van.der.schulting schreef op 28 september 2002 @ 13:12:
Gaat GoT/DPC meedoen aan RC5-72?
Waarom vraag ik het anders.
Tering, jij houd de GoT-mentaliteit wel erg in stand
DPC gaat zeker meedoen!!!van.der.schulting schreef op 28 september 2002 @ 13:19:
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Waarom vraag ik het anders.
Tering, jij houd de GoT-mentaliteit wel erg in stand
* Erkens is een sukkel en ramt in mirc op f5 :+
* XTerm GROOOOOOTE kuis houden op hd's :)
hmm....als eccp nog niet is afgelopen als RC5-72 begint, wat gebeurt dan, eerst eccp afmaken, of weer gaan RC5'en ?
eindelijk....... eigen keuzes maken...
vanbekkumclan is trots www.losalcoholicos.nl member
Kan ik eindelijk vanaf het begin meedoen. bij RC5-64 was de key gevonden toen ik 96k zat
en ik had een flush klaar. Kutzooi 

Maar nu doen we het wel goed
Maar nu doen we het wel goed
"Always remember to quick save" - Sun Tzu
Ja, ik ben er met de vorige ook aan het eind pas bijgekomen.anandus schreef op 28 september 2002 @ 17:32:
Kan ik eindelijk vanaf het begin meedoen. bij RC5-64 was de key gevonden toen ik 96k zaten ik had een flush klaar. Kutzooi
Maar nu doen we het wel goed
De volgende ga ik dus gewoon helemaal uitzitten
Nu ook zonder stropdas
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