Gaming PC - 4000 - 4.500 Euros

[Solidstrike]

(When I get home from work I will add more)

Dear Tweakers,

I have saved up for a gaming desktop that I wish to build.

I am looking to spend 4000- 4.500 on the machine.

I have been doing some research and have an idea of what I am looking for but getting other people's advice who are more knowledgeable is always appreciated.

I saw the post about the 1200 gaming machine and thought why not post here.

I live in the Netherlands so that is why I come to you as you know the market here.

• Wat wil je doen met je nieuwe systeem?
I would like to be able to play the newest games at 4K resolution.
It is purely for gaming

• Wat mag het systeem gaan kosten? Heb je een absolute maximumprijs? In- of exclusief verzendkosten, assemblage en dergelijke?

4.500 euros

I am going to build it myself
I have the peripherals already

• Zijn er componenten of randapparatuur die je al hebt en mee wil nemen naar je nieuwe systeem? Wees specifiek en noem merk en model.

NO I am starting from scratch. I probably have some RAM laying around but lets forget about that.

• Wat denk je allemaal nodig te hebben?
Minimum

1 GeForce GTX 1080
1 - SSD 250G
preferable a very strong processor


• Heb je nog bepaalde (merk)voorkeuren? Waarom

Nvidia
Most likely ASUS motherboard

• Heb je nog bepaalde eisen/wensen? (grootte, geluidsniveau, energieverbruik, beeldschermresolutie, gewenste fps, etc.)

looking for smooth FPS on a 4k monotor.
Perhaps liquid cooled as I smoke cigarrets and dust hates me.
So I would like to have a gaming rig that has a lot of upgradable potential over the years.

have been looking at 2 X MSI GeForce GTX 1080 GAMING X 8G with SLI
VS
or potentially the new i7 but I am not as tech savvy as you so any advice would be much appreciated.


• Ga je overklokken?
Yes


• Wat verwacht je van ons?

I would like help and advice or just tell me what to build with this amount of money.
If you have 4500 to spend on a new rig what would you do?
I am building this rig looking forward to play the upcoming game Star Citizen and would like your help and advice on what I should build.

I also do not know what parts are compatible with what. This is my first time building a PC but my friend will be helping me.

Please help and give me advice on what to do to build an amazing gaming machine that will last me a while before I need to upgrade.

Your help and advice is much appreciated and look forward to hearing from you all!

[ Voor 112% gewijzigd door Solidstrike op 03-08-2016 17:01 ]

[Reepje]

Nee, dat gaat zo niet.

[Flaat]

gotta put a bit more than that into the post man, also re read it a couple of times because half of it does not make sense...

[Ryan1981]

I found this guide extremely useful:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/4K_Gaming_Build

[mcmlevi]

Dit is zoals reepje al zecht totaal niet handig. We weten niet wat je precies wilt en het is nu heel onduidelijk. wat je het besten kan doen is het of helemaal in het nederlands doen of in het engels en de vragen uit het DAA beleid en zelf een eigen opzet maken Handleiding Pricewatch

This is not convient at all this half english dutch topic. And beacuse you're trying to both just do it in the language you're good at and we will be fine helping you in either language you choose. so i ask you to awnser the questions here: DAA beleid and have a go at making your own build: Handleiding Pricewatch

questions translated:
1: what do you want to do with your new system?
2:what can it cost. is this inclusing or excluding assembly?
3:what do you want to bring over from your old system? please be spesific with models and brand.
4: what do you think you are going to need?
5: do you have any wishes like completly silent?
6: do you have any brand prefferences like AMD or NVIDEA?
7: are you going to overclock?
8: what do you expect of us?

[Flaat]

Finally a thread where we can go full retard and noone does, gotta love the Dutch zuinigheid here on Tweakers.

Anyway i just went full retard for you, you know there is no going back from full retard so you better gimme some love for this

#	Product	Prijs	Subtotaal
1	Intel Core i7-6700K Boxed	€ 348,99	€ 348,99
1	Asus TUF Sabertooth Z170 S	€ 194,50	€ 194,50
1	KFA2 GeForce GTX 1070 HOF 8GB	€ 563,50	€ 563,50
1	Corsair Graphite 780T Wit	€ 188,45	€ 188,45
1	Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Tempered Glass Edition Zilver	€ 197,59	€ 197,59
1	Cryorig R1 Universal	€ 72,-	€ 72,-
1	Crucial Ballistix Sport BLS4C4G4D240FSC	€ 87,95	€ 87,95
1	EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2	€ 127,-	€ 127,-
1	Samsung 950 Pro 512GB	€ 322,27	€ 322,27
Bekijk collectie Importeer producten		Totaal	€ 2.102,25

Ps: I would never buy this, even if I had the money, but its full retard style so its allowed

You decide on the case, i cannot they are both awesome

[ Voor 6% gewijzigd door Flaat op 03-08-2016 18:23 ]

[Lootbox]

Just take one GTX 1080. To many driver issues with SLI. The remaining money could be spend on 2 or 3 monitors. 3x 27-inch or 2x 34 inch for example.

[Readdy]

Why did you create another post?
Are all the parts compatible and do I have enough fans?

[Solidstrike]

yes can i delete this one?

[br00ky]

Dat kan je niet. De andere is nu dicht. Dubbele topics staan we niet toe .

[Solidstrike]

y would you not close this one and leave the other open, it was much better

[Kuusj]

Please try to ignore the nonsense about language. While I do understand not everyone speaks English that well and this is a primarily Dutch forum I still believe we can help you.

First of all, a budget of this size is usually not necessary at all. You said you have the peripherals already, that makes this budget even more 'overkill' if you will. I think that around 2000 euro's can provide a PC that fulfills the wishes you have. You absolutely don't need a 10 core/20 thread Intel 6950X for gaming. Infact, a Core i7 6700K will perform better in most games due to the higher clockrate. I suggest going for a 6700K, and a GTX1080 of your liking. Pair that with 16/32GB RAM, a nice case (like the NZXT H440) and a decent motherboard plus power supply.

#	Product	Prijs	Subtotaal
1	Intel Core i7-6700K Boxed	€ 348,99	€ 348,99
1	MSI Z170A GAMING M5	€ 170,95	€ 170,95
1	MSI GeForce GTX 1080 GAMING X 8G	€ 811,-	€ 811,-
1	WD Red WD40EFRX, 4TB	€ 153,33	€ 153,33
1	NZXT H440 New Edition Zwart/Rood	€ 121,18	€ 121,18
1	Scythe Mugen 4 PCGH Edition	€ 44,95	€ 44,95
1	Kingston HyperX Fury HX426C15FBK2/16	€ 82,-	€ 82,-
1	Corsair RM550x	€ 95,95	€ 95,95
1	Sandisk Ultra II SSD 960GB	€ 218,49	€ 218,49
Bekijk collectie Importeer producten		Totaal	€ 2.046,84

Yes, I took a lot of parts that I have myself. This is what I would buy if I were to build a 2000-2500 Euro PC. Difference between this and my system are storage and GPU. I have a Corsair H80i but I would never recommend that to anyone.

[Flaat]

totally agreed, anything over 2k is carrying water to the sea (pun intended)

[ Voor 26% gewijzigd door Flaat op 04-08-2016 15:43 ]

[DiEPVRiEZERRRRR]

Flaat schreef op donderdag 04 augustus 2016 @ 15:42:
totally agreed, anything over 2k is carrying water to the sea (pun intended)

XD

kuusj98 schreef op donderdag 04 augustus 2016 @ 15:25:
Please try to ignore the nonsense about language. While I do understand not everyone speaks English that well and this is a primarily Dutch forum I still believe we can help you.

First of all, a budget of this size is usually not necessary at all. You said you have the peripherals already, that makes this budget even more 'overkill' if you will. I think that around 2000 euro's can provide a PC that fulfills the wishes you have. You absolutely don't need a 10 core/20 thread Intel 6950X for gaming. Infact, a Core i7 6700K will perform better in most games due to the higher clockrate. I suggest going for a 6700K, and a GTX1080 of your liking. Pair that with 16/32GB RAM, a nice case (like the NZXT H440) and a decent motherboard plus power supply.

#	Product	Prijs	Subtotaal
1	Intel Core i7-6700K Boxed	€ 348,99	€ 348,99
1	MSI Z170A GAMING M5	€ 170,95	€ 170,95
1	MSI GeForce GTX 1080 GAMING X 8G	€ 811,-	€ 811,-
1	WD Red WD40EFRX, 4TB	€ 153,33	€ 153,33
1	NZXT H440 New Edition Zwart/Rood	€ 121,18	€ 121,18
1	Scythe Mugen 4 PCGH Edition	€ 44,95	€ 44,95
1	Kingston HyperX Fury HX426C15FBK2/16	€ 82,-	€ 82,-
1	Corsair RM550x	€ 95,95	€ 95,95
1	Sandisk Ultra II SSD 960GB	€ 218,49	€ 218,49
Bekijk collectie Importeer producten		Totaal	€ 2.046,84

Yes, I took a lot of parts that I have myself. This is what I would buy if I were to build a 2000-2500 Euro PC. Difference between this and my system are storage and GPU. I have a Corsair H80i but I would never recommend that to anyone.

I have to agree with this. Spending 4k or more on a gaming machine isn't worth it. Usually an i7 is neither, but with your budget everything is possible.

LopendeVogel schreef op donderdag 04 augustus 2016 @ 14:58:
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nee

1 month people? De grammar nazi in mij moest hier toch echt ff op reageren. Props voor je reactie tho.

[ Voor 2% gewijzigd door br00ky op 05-08-2016 11:52 ]

[br00ky]

Als iedereen nou gewoon ophoudt met de moderator uithangen en modden aan de mods laat is er niets aan de hand. Engels is geen probleem, tenzij de TS Nederlands spreekt of anderen dwingt in het Engels te reageren. Dit topic blijft dus gewoon open.

[wiLLius]

The new Titan X Pascal is the only card of truly 60 FPS at 4K with high settings and anti aliasing filters applied, As far as my knowledge goes.

I wholeheartedly agree with the rest of the folks about the i7 6700k.
If you like overclocking you could buy a binned i7 at caseking.de
Yes you pay a premium for one, but makes sure you don't end up with the short end of the stick considering the well known "Silicon Lottery". Saves a lot of money binning a good chip too!

If I had your budget I would look into a proper case to show off all the nice hardware. Not something like most big brands like Corsair or NZXT have to offer. But something of truly great quality.

Caselabs recently have "opened" a European distributer. It is more "affordable" than ever. http://www.bestcases.eu Is the website, so now you don't have to pay astronomical prices of VAT and import fees like others have had to. (Myself included)

Or the Hex Gear R80

A tad bit more affordable would be something like the InWin 904. Also beautiful cases, with outstanding quality. Own a 901 (ITX version) myself and it comes very close if not on par with both companies mentioned above.


Good luck, and don't forget to show of your finished build in our "Show your build section"Show je build Topic

[Solidstrike]

Actually living in NL gota go with the oranje

pricewatch: be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 (Zwart/Oranje)

looks nice too!

[ Voor 61% gewijzigd door Solidstrike op 05-08-2016 17:11 ]

[Solidstrike]

Ok Guys,

I know you all swear on 2000 euros is enough but like if I don't spend the money on this now I ill just go out and party the money away. Rather a good investment to my pc.

This is what I got now. One again all the parts compatible? enough space for fans? What is the cable called on the video at 7:45?
YouTube: Corsair H100i GTX and H110i GT Installation Overview
link please?

Once again thanks or all the help and really appreciate it. Im still going with the SLI set up

#	Product	Prijs	Subtotaal
1	Intel Core i7-6700K Boxed	€ 348,99	€ 348,99
1	Asus Z170-PREMIUM	€ 358,50	€ 358,50
2	Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Xtreme Gaming Water cooling 8GB	€ 921,-	€ 1.842,-
1	Seagate Desktop HDD, 6TB	€ 226,50	€ 226,50
1	Asus Xonar Essence STX II 7.1	€ 223,85	€ 223,85
1	be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 (Zwart/Oranje)	€ 215,50	€ 215,50
1	Microsoft Windows 10 Home EN 64bit OEM	€ 64,48	€ 64,48
1	NZXT SENTRY LX	€ 50,95	€ 50,95
1	Corsair Hydro H115i	€ 140,43	€ 140,43
1	Corsair Gaming K95 RGB Cherry MX Red (US Qwerty)	€ 193,50	€ 193,50
1	Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog Zwart	€ 330,85	€ 330,85
1	Thrustmaster T.Flight Rudder Pedals Zwart	€ 95,25	€ 95,25
1	G.Skill Trident Z F4-3400C16D-32GTZ	€ 227,20	€ 227,20
1	Samsung SE-208GB Zwart	€ 22,-	€ 22,-
1	Corsair AX860	€ 189,50	€ 189,50
1	Samsung 950 Pro 512GB	€ 322,27	€ 322,27
1	Arctic Cooling MX-4 Thermal Compound (4g)	€ 5,82	€ 5,82
1	Nvidia GeForce GTX SLI HB Bridge 3-slot	€ 44,90	€ 44,90
Bekijk collectie Importeer producten		Totaal	€ 4.902,49

[Solidstrike]

Hey everyone,

Another question. would an optical drive fit into the case in one of the HD bays?

Thanks

[Nip]

You are wasting a lot of money this way.

My advice is to buy the set up kuusj98 showed you, albeit with a few adjustments for personal taste. The difference in performance between a 2000 euro PC and a 5000 euro PC is so small it is not worth spending the money. You should buy enthusiast level components that have a very good performance/price ratio as of this moment, and upgrade in two years.

[Flaat]

Why do you ask advice and then just buy what you want anyway...

This is not a good investment, an investment is something you get back over time. This is a waste of money

There is something like a savings account...

[ Voor 33% gewijzigd door Flaat op 06-08-2016 14:36 ]

[Jeroenneman]

Solidstrike schreef op zaterdag 06 augustus 2016 @ 09:04:
Ok Guys,

I know you all swear on 2000 euros is enough but like if I don't spend the money on this now I ill just go out and party the money away. Rather a good investment to my pc.

This is what I got now. One again all the parts compatible? enough space for fans? What is the cable called on the video at 7:45?
YouTube: Corsair H100i GTX and H110i GT Installation Overview
link please?

Once again thanks or all the help and really appreciate it. Im still going with the SLI set up

#	Product	Prijs	Subtotaal
1	Intel Core i7-6700K Boxed	€ 348,99	€ 348,99
1	Asus Z170-PREMIUM	€ 358,50	€ 358,50
2	Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Xtreme Gaming Water cooling 8GB	€ 921,-	€ 1.842,-
1	Seagate Desktop HDD, 6TB	€ 226,50	€ 226,50
1	Asus Xonar Essence STX II 7.1	€ 223,85	€ 223,85
1	be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 (Zwart/Oranje)	€ 215,50	€ 215,50
1	Microsoft Windows 10 Home EN 64bit OEM	€ 64,48	€ 64,48
1	NZXT SENTRY LX	€ 50,95	€ 50,95
1	Corsair Hydro H115i	€ 140,43	€ 140,43
1	Corsair Gaming K95 RGB Cherry MX Red (US Qwerty)	€ 193,50	€ 193,50
1	Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog Zwart	€ 330,85	€ 330,85
1	Thrustmaster T.Flight Rudder Pedals Zwart	€ 95,25	€ 95,25
1	G.Skill Trident Z F4-3400C16D-32GTZ	€ 227,20	€ 227,20
1	Samsung SE-208GB Zwart	€ 22,-	€ 22,-
1	Corsair AX860	€ 189,50	€ 189,50
1	Samsung 950 Pro 512GB	€ 322,27	€ 322,27
1	Arctic Cooling MX-4 Thermal Compound (4g)	€ 5,82	€ 5,82
1	Nvidia GeForce GTX SLI HB Bridge 3-slot	€ 44,90	€ 44,90
Bekijk collectie Importeer producten		Totaal	€ 4.902,49

What good will the 950 Pro really do you in games? Maybe shave 0.5 second off your loading times?

32GB's of RAM? What for?

A 380,- euro motherboard? An expensive audio card? 6TB's of disk space?

Nothing wrong with a 2K PC, and 2K remaining for some parties (or, as suggested by others, a savings account). You're definetely in the area of diminishing returns at such a budget.

A 800 euro PC may perform up to 2x as well as a 400 euro PC in games, but a 5000 euro PC will only perform ~30% better than a 2000 euro PC. Spending hundreds of euro's on fancy motherboards, insane amounts of RAM, or dubious amounts of diskspace will not help your gaming experience.

Hell, with a 5K budget, why not go all out, and pick 2x Titan X Pascal cards? Those will at least give you relevant gaming performance.

[Solidstrike]

*poof*

[ Voor 180% gewijzigd door br00ky op 06-08-2016 15:49 ]

[Solidstrike]

2x Titan X Pascal cards

sounds good , looking into it

1080 can only do 2 way sli right? Pacal can go 4 way?

Or am i wrong there?

[ Voor 41% gewijzigd door Solidstrike op 06-08-2016 14:55 ]

[Solidstrike]

#	Product	Prijs	Subtotaal
1	Intel Core i7-6700K Boxed	€ 348,99	€ 348,99
1	Asus Z170-PREMIUM	€ 358,50	€ 358,50
2	EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN X HYBRID 12GB	€ 1.219,90	€ 2.439,80
1	Seagate Desktop HDD, 6TB	€ 226,50	€ 226,50
1	be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 (Zwart/Oranje)	€ 215,50	€ 215,50
1	Microsoft Windows 10 Home EN 64bit OEM	€ 64,48	€ 64,48
1	NZXT SENTRY LX	€ 50,95	€ 50,95
1	Corsair Hydro H115i	€ 141,95	€ 141,95
1	Corsair Gaming K95 RGB Cherry MX Red (US Qwerty)	€ 195,50	€ 195,50
1	G.Skill Trident Z F4-3400C16D-32GTZ	€ 232,50	€ 232,50
1	Samsung SE-208GB Zwart	€ 22,-	€ 22,-
1	Corsair AX860	€ 192,-	€ 192,-
1	Samsung 950 Pro 512GB	€ 322,27	€ 322,27
1	Arctic Cooling MX-4 Thermal Compound (4g)	€ 5,82	€ 5,82
1	Nvidia GeForce GTX SLI HB Bridge 3-slot	€ 44,90	€ 44,90
Bekijk collectie Importeer producten		Totaal	€ 4.861,66

[Nip]

*poef* Wat staat er nou in mijn vorige bericht.

[ Voor 75% gewijzigd door br00ky op 06-08-2016 15:43 ]

[EdB19]

*weg*

[ Voor 88% gewijzigd door br00ky op 06-08-2016 15:43 ]

[br00ky]

@Solidstrike.

Two things;
1. This is Tweakers, people tend to go for best buy options. Going all out is almost never a best buy. Please respect those opinions too.

2. Use the "wijzig" button in the upper right corner of your last post of you want to add stuff. You've been posting a few times in a row in the past. People find this very annoying.

[Kuusj]

Solidstrike schreef op zaterdag 06 augustus 2016 @ 14:54:
2x Titan X Pascal cards

sounds good , looking into it

1080 can only do 2 way sli right? Pacal can go 4 way?

Or am i wrong there?

True, but remember the new Titan X is not really a card meant for gaming, and more for deep learning applications. Hence the 12GB VRAM. And if you are really that rich, I'd still go for the 2K system and donate a 1080 to me Haha jokes aside, you can do with your money whatever you want, we're only saying it is not 'smart' to invest that much more money in a system that only performs marginally better.

I totally get it: if I was rich and/or won the lottery, I'd want a system that is over the top extreme. Just because you can. And you wouldn't really feel the 5K price tag with that amount of money, but still, cost effective it is not worth it. Of course, we don't have any way of verifying that you are that CEO and lottery winner, and the chances are so low people will doubt the things you are telling us. In any way, if you really, really want to spend that much, I will help you as best as I can.

- In any case, pick the 6700K. Overclock it to ~4.5Ghz with ~1.3V and that's about all the CPU horsepower you are going to need in the next 3-4 years. A 6950X is not going to last any longer.
- Motherboard: this pricewatch: MSI Z170A GAMING M5 MSI board is high-end, has all the new features and is except the plastic shroud on the Asus board almost exactly the same. If you want to shell out some more for that same shroud on the MSI board you want to get this one: pricewatch: MSI Z170A GAMING M7
- RAM: pricewatch: Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK32GX4M2A2400C14 Price/performance is pretty good. Leaves the option for 64GB open, has a nice black and neutral look to it.
- Power Supply: in case of first system I posted, go for this one: pricewatch: Corsair RM550x If you want overclocked dual 1080's/Titan's you'd want a pricewatch: Corsair RM850x. These power supply's are pretty much as good build as possible, offering 10 years of warranty.
- Case: I'd still pick the pricewatch: NZXT H440 New Edition Zwart/Rood, it is a high end case with a high end look and materials. This is the case to go if you want enough room and perfect cable management. It is silent too.
- GPU's: a single 1080 or a Titan X is going to net you the best frametimes, but if you want to game on 4K with all settings on ultra a SLI setup is still mandatory. I'm not going to choose the vendor, as I have not yet conducted enough personal research on the new 1080's and Titan X's.
- Cooler: Still not going to recommend a watercooler, they are loud, the pumps make noise, the risk of leakage is present. If you still want one: pricewatch: NZXT Kraken X61
Fits perfectly with the NZXT case.
- Storage: Decide for yourself, a 950 Pro is nice, fast, but also mad expensive. But I guess that is not really a problem in your case. I'd still go for a HDD with size of your liking for random files. SSD's get slower as you put more crap on them, that's why.

Yes, you can make it more expensive. Add some aftermarket fans, some RGB lighting and that's another 200 euro's. You can completely get rid of HDD"s and put in two SATA 960GB SSD's with a 512GB Nvme boot drive.

[ Voor 57% gewijzigd door Kuusj op 06-08-2016 16:13 ]

[Solidstrike]

@br00ky - I understand and I do respect their opinion but the title of this topic is 4-4.5k computer.

The advice kuusj98 just gave "the new Titan X is not really a card meant for gaming, and more for deep learning applications" is great. No need to waste 200-500 euros more one it and instead get my star citizen joystick.


The thing is I just got a 4k screen and the 1080 SLI clearly have a significant effect on fps with today's games so i figure it would be able to still keep up for the next few year.

For 4k gaming on multiple screens and VR I think is good to have top notch graphic and ram.

As for the hard drives i dont really care about the HDD so it could drop that down. it was the cheapest biggest and fastest one i could find. Plus my family used to work for Seagate (and why i grew up here in NL as a kid) so its gotta be a Seagate drive.

The SSD is only like a bit more and you get 512GB M.2 (PCI-e 3.0 x4) @ 2.500/1.500MB/s
vs 960GB 2.5" (SATA-600) @ 550/500MB/s

So its writes nearly 3 times faster for 100 euros. so yea the total is high but its just 100 bucks for 3 times the speed. Or am i wrong about this? that y i am here

I have a 7.1 tiamat razor headset, (don't know why I got that one when there are soooo many better ones) so i was thinking to get a good sound card to go with it. i know the build in soundcard to that Mobo is good thou so not sure. if I gotta take something off its the sound card really.

I think the Mobo is pretty and has come kick-ass features like an overclock button and more. I prefer the sabrtooths looks but like build in wifi and other features put it behind.

I know its crasy computer, it's my crazy computer, I also just bought all of the lord of the rings swords because they look cool and are hanging on my wall now.

This rig is actually meant to play star citizen at top specs in 4k or vr with great sound. That y im building this and thats what im looking help for. Help me do that!

Advice like not to get the titans is great or should I get them if I wana blast star citizen?

[Kuusj]

Solidstrike schreef op zaterdag 06 augustus 2016 @ 16:14:
@br00ky - I understand and I do respect their opinion but the title of this topic is 4-4.5k computer.

The advice kuusj98 just gave "the new Titan X is not really a card meant for gaming, and more for deep learning applications" is great. No need to waste 200-500 euros more one it and instead get my star citizen joystick.


The thing is I just got a 4k screen and the 1080 SLI clearly have a significant effect on fps with today's games so i figure it would be able to still keep up for the next few year.

For 4k gaming on multiple screens and VR I think is good to have top notch graphic and ram.

As for the hard drives i dont really care about the HDD so it could drop that down. it was the cheapest biggest and fastest one i could find. Plus my family used to work for Seagate (and why i grew up here in NL as a kid) so its gotta be a Seagate drive.

The SSD is only like a bit more and you get 512GB M.2 (PCI-e 3.0 x4) @ 2.500/1.500MB/s
vs 960GB 2.5" (SATA-600) @ 550/500MB/s

So its writes nearly 3 times faster for 100 euros. so yea the total is high but its just 100 bucks for 3 times the speed. Or am i wrong about this? that y i am here

I have a 7.1 tiamat razor headset, (don't know why I got that one when there are soooo many better ones) so i was thinking to get a good sound card to go with it. i know the build in soundcard to that Mobo is good thou so not sure. if I gotta take something off its the sound card really.

I think the Mobo is pretty and has come kick-ass features like an overclock button and more. I prefer the sabrtooths looks but like build in wifi and other features put it behind.

I know its crasy computer, it's my crazy computer, I also just bought all of the lord of the rings swords because they look cool and are hanging on my wall now.

This rig is actually meant to play star citizen at top specs in 4k or vr with great sound. That y im building this and thats what im looking help for. Help me do that!

Advice like not to get the titans is great or should I get them if I wana blast star citizen?

A Titan X will perform better than a 1080, but only by a small margin: YouTube: NVIDIA Titan X... again - Another weird Titan X Review! around 10% overall. If you overclock the 1080's you'd see similar performance for 500 euro's less a card. In certain applications (like I said) the Titan X will destroy a 1080, but I don't think you are going to use those specific applications.

You are right about the SSD, if you don't need the double capacity a 950 Pro is certainly no bad choice. A soundcard is (truly) not going to improve the sound of the Razer's. I've had a number of Razer headsets before and to be honest, they all sucked pretty hard. High end motherboards with the ALC1150 chip have very good sound, you'd be better of saving the money of the soundcard and put it in a better headset if you want better sound.

I can not (no-one can) guarantee that a dual 1080/TitanX setup can play Star Citizen on the settings you want, it is just about the heaviest game around. To be honest, I did not look up exact benchmarks of Star Citizen, but that is what my mind recorded from previous research.

[fastandfourier]

Solidstrike schreef op zaterdag 06 augustus 2016 @ 16:14:
@br00ky - I understand and I do respect their opinion but the title of this topic is 4-4.5k computer.

You'd be much better off if you were to spend two and a half grand on a decent gaming rig now and spend the other two grand on upgrades three years down the line. If you were to buy, say, 32 GiB of RAM, you'd be spending money just for the sake of it. It's neither a very useful practice, nor a Dutch one, which is why barely anyone condones doing so--understandably. You will be frustrated beyond belief when the GTX 1080 Ti hits the shelves and inevitably dismisses the GTX 1080 in every aspect; it's not a road you want to go down.

[br00ky]

Solidstrike schreef op zaterdag 06 augustus 2016 @ 16:14:
@br00ky - I understand and I do respect their opinion but the title of this topic is 4-4.5k computer.

Still this is what most topics are about, best buy. And if they're not, 9 out of 10 it's a troll. The best is just to stay polite and not to dive into lottery and CEO stuff .

[Solidstrike]

Dear Brooky,

I was just kidding with those things! I am neither, if I was I would just buy the 20,000 pc haha

should i wizig my last comment or is it ok to put this here?

[ Voor 22% gewijzigd door Solidstrike op 06-08-2016 16:51 ]

[br00ky]

Standard rule is to edit your last post as long as it's within 24h. That only applies if no one else has replied yet (i.e. double posting/kicking).

[Solidstrike]

The Titan x pascal is only available from Nvidia directly correct?

Research dictates that you are indeed correct. The titan X pascal vs 1080s for just gaming is not justified price wise.

[ Voor 48% gewijzigd door Solidstrike op 06-08-2016 18:11 ]

[Griffin2k]

Hi Solidstrike, a lot of good replies in this topic regarding what components needed.

You've a luxurious problem. Saying that you'll spend the remaining money on partying.

Just spent 3k and pay me 2k and i'll assemble the machine, bring you coffee the upcoming weeks and i'll wash you car a few times if you have one

[Luca]

I don't want to sound like a grumpy grandfather in any way, but apparently Solidstrike just wants to spend the money on it. So this might sound kind of harsh, but why waste time and energy by convincing him? Why not build the ultimate (dream) PC or setup for the 4500€ that he is willing to spend.

Yes, it's a budget we rarely see here, but if he just wants to spend it..

[Jeroenneman]

Danny.G schreef op zondag 07 augustus 2016 @ 15:38:
I don't want to sound like a grumpy grandfather in any way, but apparently Solidstrike just wants to spend the money on it. So this might sound kind of harsh, but why waste time and energy by convincing him? Why not build the ultimate (dream) PC or setup for the 4500€ that he is willing to spend.

Yes, it's a budget we rarely see here, but if he just wants to spend it..

What does he need the topic for then? Anyone can build an ultimate PC. Just sort by price in the Pricewatch, and stuff your basket with the most expensive items.

If you ask for advice, don't expect to only hear what you want to hear...

That being said, the 5K option is utterly ridiculous, and just doesn't add much over a 3K or 4K build.

[Luca]

Jeroenneman schreef op zondag 07 augustus 2016 @ 15:42:
[...]


What does he need the topic for then? Anyone can build an ultimate PC. Just sort by price in the Pricewatch, and stuff your basket with the most expensive items.

If you ask for advice, don't expect to only hear what you want to hear...

That being said, the 5K option is utterly ridiculous, and just doesn't add much over a 3K or 4K build.

You've got a fair point! I do agree that the 5K is insane, but then again, I also would have wanted to get some advice and tips from others on products and combinations if I were to spend all of it.

It might be insanely super overkill, but if the money isn't a problem.. I don't see the problem. If we would have seen pictures in the "Show je PC" topic with a build like this we would be all amazed, so why not go into it like this? I do agree with you though, don't get me wrong.

That is and will be all about it, I just wanted to add my 2 cents to the story.

[Verwijderd]

I have made a build for you it will run about 80-90 fps 4k and easy 200 fps under intensive work loads on 1080p. wenslijst: Daans setup
Btw couldn't make a hyperlink for some reason

[Temujin]

Verwijderd schreef op woensdag 17 juli 2019 @ 08:49:
I have made a build for you it will run about 80-90 fps 4k and easy 200 fps under intensive work loads on 1080p. wenslijst: Daans setup
Btw couldn't make a hyperlink for some reason

Je bent 3 jaar te laat. helaas. Volgende keer even opletten hoe oud het draadje is wat je weer omhoogschopt

[BiLo]

Temujin schreef op woensdag 17 juli 2019 @ 08:56:
[...]


Je bent 3 jaar te laat. helaas. Volgende keer even opletten hoe oud het draadje is wat je weer omhoogschopt

Ook wel bijzonder feitje is dat het haar/zijn 3de reactie is..

[DonJunior]

BiLo schreef op woensdag 17 juli 2019 @ 08:58:
[...]




Ook wel bijzonder feitje is dat het haar/zijn 3de reactie is..

Maakt de Karma status (Feut) wel waar zo

En ik heb dus zojuist mijn tijd zitten verdoen aan het doorspitten van een 3 jaar oud topic.. grmbl..

[ Voor 18% gewijzigd door DonJunior op 17-07-2019 09:00 ]

[br00ky]

@Verwijderd, inderdaad even checken hoe oud het topic is