Zonnet adsl family, pingproblemen

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  • gotfurrr
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Ik heb de laatste 2 weken op de "spitsuren" belachelijk hoge pings van 150-200ms naar het buitenland (elk land)

meer mensen met dit probleem? :(

  • JvS
  • Registratie: Februari 2000
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JvS

Ik heb hem zelf ook

Yep, in een ander topic kreeg adsl al de schuld, maar dit is ook duidelijk een zonnet klant:
raymonvdm schreef op 03 november 2003 @ 19:08:
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Hier in Hardinxveld nog niet. ( toch maar 15 min driven vanaf dord)

Maar tot hoelaat gaat dat updaten door is dat 24 uur per dag ? willen ze al die centrales doen ? of met 100 man tegelijk ? zijn er ook insiders van kpn hier ?


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 C:\>tracert www.yahoo.com

Bezig met het traceren van de route naar www.yahoo.akadns.net [66.218.71.90]
via maximaal 30 hops:

  1   <1 ms   <1 ms   <1 ms  nt-server-2 [192.168.100.250]
  2     1 ms     1 ms     3 ms  1.2.3.4
  3    11 ms    10 ms    10 ms  195.190.240.207
  4    22 ms    13 ms    12 ms  unlabelled.versatel.net [62.58.150.9]
  5    13 ms    13 ms    12 ms  srp4-0.dr01asd3.versatel.net [62.58.128.73]
  6   790 ms   769 ms   764 ms  sl-gw20-ams-2-3.sprintlink.net [217.149.33.149]

  7   769 ms   772 ms   773 ms  sl-bb20-ams-9-0.sprintlink.net [217.149.32.99]
  8    14 ms    14 ms    12 ms  213.206.131.46
  9    14 ms    13 ms    14 ms  ae0-53.mp1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [213.244.165.65
]
 10   107 ms    97 ms    97 ms  so-1-0-0.mp1.London2.Level3.net [212.187.128.49]

 11   872 ms   864 ms   853 ms  so-1-0-0.bbr1.Washington1.level3.net [212.187.12
8.138]
 12   927 ms   927 ms     *     unknown.Level3.net [64.159.1.130]
 13   925 ms   937 ms   927 ms  gige10-1.ipcolo3.SanJose1.Level3.net [64.159.2.1
05]
 14   926 ms   927 ms     *     unknown.Level3.net [64.152.69.30]
 15   924 ms   941 ms   931 ms  w11.www.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.71.90]

De trace is voltooid.


Is dus niet alleen Yahoo ? :'(

4x APsystems DS3; 4x495Wp OZO/WNW 10° ; 4x460Wp OZO/WNW 10°; Totaal 3820Wp


  • raymonvdm
  • Registratie: December 2001
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Het lijkt voor te komen in de overgang naar sprintlink daarom plaats ik zo nog een paar tracerts.

Heb dit probleem eerder gehad maar toen was het eerder in het zon netwerk en dat lag toen aan de glaskoppelingen die vol waren. Maar die zijn toen zwaar geupgrade :-)

  • raymonvdm
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 ===============================================
=== VisualRoute report on 3-nov-03 23:27:36 ===
===============================================

Report for www.novell.com [130.57.4.27]

Analysis: 'www.novell.com'  was found in 20 hops (TTL=44). Connections to HTTP port 80 are working. 

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| Hop | %Loss | IP Address      | Node Name                       | Location                | Tzone  | ms  | Graph      | Network                                        |
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| 0   |       | 192.168.100.35  | Raymon03        | ...                     |        |     |            | (private use)                                  |
| 1   |       | 192.168.100.250 | nt-server-2     | ...                     |        | 0   | x-         | (private use)                                  |
| 2   |       | 1.2.3.4         | -                               | ...                     |        | 1   | x          | Internet Assigned Numbers Authority RESERVED-9 |
| 3   |       | 195.190.240.207 | -                               | ?(Netherlands)          | +01:00 | 9   | x          | KPN Internet Operator                          |
| 4   |       | 62.58.150.9     | unlabelled.versatel.net         | ?(Netherlands)          | +01:00 | 10  | x          | Point to point connection to KPN               |
| 5   |       | 62.58.128.73    | srp4-0.dr01asd3.versatel.net    | ?(Netherlands)          | +01:00 | 10  | x          | Versatel Telecom Internal                      |
| 6   |       | 217.149.33.149  | sl-gw20-ams-2-3.sprintlink.net  | Amsterdam, Netherlands  | +01:00 | 85  |  x-        | Sprintlink NL                                  |
| 7   |       | 217.149.32.99   | sl-bb20-ams-9-0.sprintlink.net  | Amsterdam, Netherlands  | +01:00 | 88  |  -x-       | Sprintlink NL                                  |
| 8   |       | 213.206.129.46  | sl-bb21-bru-14-0.sprintlink.net | Brussels, Belgium       | +01:00 | 96  |  -x-       | Sprintlink UK                                  |
| 9   |       | 80.66.128.41    | sl-bb20-bru-15-0.sprintlink.net | Brussels, Belgium       | +01:00 | 90  |  -x        | Sprintlink BE                                  |
| 10  |       | 213.206.129.41  | sl-bb22-lon-13-0.sprintlink.net | London, UK              | *      | 100 |  -x        | Sprintlink UK                                  |
| 11  |       | 144.232.9.163   | sl-bb20-nyc-2-0.sprintlink.net  | New York, NY, USA       | -05:00 | 163 |    x-      | Sprint SPRINT-INNET9                           |
| 12  |       | 144.232.18.226  | -                               | ...                     |        | 161 |    x-      | Sprint SPRINT-INNET9                           |
| 13  |       | 12.123.1.122    | tbr1-p011601.n54ny.ip.att.net   | New York, NY, USA       | -05:00 | 165 |    x-      | AT&T WorldNet Services ATT                     |
| 14  |       | 12.122.10.2     | tbr1-cl1.cgcil.ip.att.net       | Chicago, IL, USA        | -06:00 | 210 |     x-     | AT&T WorldNet Services ATT                     |
| 15  |       | 12.122.10.122   | gbr4-p20.dvmco.ip.att.net       | Denver, CO, USA         | -07:00 | 236 |      x-    | AT&T WorldNet Services ATT                     |
| 16  |       | 12.122.5.33     | gbr3-p60.dvmco.ip.att.net       | Denver, CO, USA         | -07:00 | 237 |      x-    | AT&T WorldNet Services ATT                     |
| 17  |       | 12.122.2.237    | gar1-p360.slkut.ip.att.net      | Salt Lake City, UT, USA | -07:00 | 245 |      x-    | AT&T WorldNet Services ATT                     |
| 18  |       | 12.127.106.34   | -                               | ...                     |        | 246 |      x---  | AT&T WorldNet Services ATT                     |
| 19  |       | 192.94.118.221  | -                               | ...                     |        | 250 |      x-    | Novell, Inc. NOVELL-NET-SMALL2                 |
| 20  |       | 130.57.4.27     | www.novell.com                  | ...                     |        | 253 |      x---- | Novell, Inc. NOVELL-WEST                       |
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Roundtrip time to www.novell.com, average = 253ms, min = 223ms, max = 394ms -- 3-nov-03 23:27:36


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 ===============================================
=== VisualRoute report on 3-nov-03 23:28:15 ===
===============================================

Real-time report for www.yahoo.com [216.109.118.64] (40% done)

Analysis: 'www.yahoo.com' [p1.www.dcn.yahoo.com]  was found in 12 hops (TTL=47). Connections to HTTP port 80 are working. 

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| Hop | %Loss | IP Address      | Node Name                         | Location            | Tzone  | ms  | Graph      | Network                                        |
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| 0   |       | 192.168.100.35  | Raymon03          | ...                 |        |     |            | (private use)                                  |
| 1   |       | 192.168.100.250 | nt-server-2       | ...                 |        | 0   | x          | (private use)                                  |
| 2   |       | 1.2.3.4         | -                                 | ...                 |        | 1   | x          | Internet Assigned Numbers Authority RESERVED-9 |
| 3   |       | 195.190.240.207 | -                                 | ?(Netherlands)      | +01:00 | 8   | x          | KPN Internet Operator                          |
| 4   |       | 62.58.150.9     | unlabelled.versatel.net           | ?(Netherlands)      | +01:00 | 13  | x          | Point to point connection to KPN               |
| 5   |       | 62.58.129.146   | -                                 | ?(Netherlands)      | +01:00 | 17  | x          | Versatel Telecom Internal                      |
| 6   |       | 206.24.147.193  | bcr1-so-6-1-3.Brussels.cw.net     | Brussels, Belgium   | +01:00 | 17  | x          | Cable & Wireless CW-05BLK                      |
| 7   |       | 206.24.226.99   | dcr1-loopback.Washington.cw.net   | Washington, DC, USA | -05:00 | 102 |     x-     | Cable & Wireless CW-05BLK                      |
| 8   |       | 206.24.238.38   | bhr1-pos-10-0.Sterling2dc3.cw.net | -                   |        | 103 |     x-     | Cable & Wireless CW-05BLK                      |
| 9   |       | 216.109.66.99   | csr11-ve242.Sterling2dc3.cw.net   | -                   |        | 103 |     x-     | Cable & Wireless DC3-8                         |
| 10  |       | 216.109.84.162  | -                                 | ...                 |        | 178 |         x  | Cable & Wireless DC3-8                         |
| 11  |       | 216.109.120.146 | vl31.bas2-m.dcn.yahoo.com         | -                   |        | 176 |         x  | HotJobs.com, Ltd. HOTJOBS                      |
| 12  |       | 216.109.118.64  | www.yahoo.com                     | -                   |        | 176 |         x- | HotJobs.com, Ltd. HOTJOBS                      |
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Roundtrip time to www.yahoo.com, average = 176ms, min = 166ms, max = 186ms -- 3-nov-03 23:28:15


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=== VisualRoute report on 3-nov-03 23:29:15 ===
===============================================

Real-time report for www.2fast.nl [80.247.192.1] (70% done)

Analysis: 'www.2fast.nl'  was found in 7 hops (TTL=58). Connections to HTTP port 80 are working. 

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| Hop | %Loss | IP Address      | Node Name                   | Location       | Tzone  | ms | Graph      | Network                                                  |
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| 0   |       | 192.168.100.35  | Raymon03    | ...            |        |    |            | (private use)                                            |
| 1   |       | 192.168.100.250 | nt-server-2 | ...            |        | 0  | x----      | (private use)                                            |
| 2   |       | 1.2.3.4         | -                           | ...            |        | 1  | x          | Internet Assigned Numbers Authority RESERVED-9           |
| 3   |       | 195.190.240.207 | -                           | ?(Netherlands) | +01:00 | 10 |    x---    | KPN Internet Operator                                    |
| 4   |       | 62.58.150.9     | unlabelled.versatel.net     | ?(Netherlands) | +01:00 | 10 |    x----   | Point to point connection to KPN                         |
| 5   |       | 62.58.151.138   | -                           | ?(Netherlands) | +01:00 | 13 |    -x---   | Versatel Telecom Internal                                |
| 6   |       | 195.69.144.171  | ams-ix.network.2fast.nl     | ?(Netherlands) | +01:00 | 11 |     x----- | AMS-IX peering LANs                                      |
| 7   |       | 80.247.192.1    | www.2fast.nl                | ?(Netherlands) | +01:00 | 11 |     x--    | 2Fast Internet Services is providing virtual, dedicated, |
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Roundtrip time to www.2fast.nl, average = 11ms, min = 11ms, max = 16ms -- 3-nov-03 23:29:15


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=== VisualRoute report on 3-nov-03 23:29:49 ===
===============================================

Report for www.microsoft.com [63.208.194.32]

Analysis: 'www.microsoft.com' [unknown.Level3.net]  was found in 14 hops (TTL=48). Connections to HTTP port 80 are working. 

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| Hop | %Loss | IP Address      | Node Name                         | Location               | Tzone  | ms  | Graph      | Network                                        |
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| 0   |       | 192.168.100.35  | Raymon03          | ...                    |        |     |            | (private use)                                  |
| 1   |       | 192.168.100.250 | nt-server-2       | ...                    |        | 0   | x          | (private use)                                  |
| 2   |       | 1.2.3.4         | -                                 | ...                    |        | 1   | x          | Internet Assigned Numbers Authority RESERVED-9 |
| 3   |       | 195.190.240.207 | -                                 | ?(Netherlands)         | +01:00 | 8   | x          | KPN Internet Operator                          |
| 4   |       | 62.58.150.9     | unlabelled.versatel.net           | ?(Netherlands)         | +01:00 | 16  | x-         | Point to point connection to KPN               |
| 5   |       | 62.58.128.73    | srp4-0.dr01asd3.versatel.net      | ?(Netherlands)         | +01:00 | 10  | x-         | Versatel Telecom Internal                      |
| 6   |       | 217.149.33.149  | sl-gw20-ams-2-3.sprintlink.net    | Amsterdam, Netherlands | +01:00 | 38  | --x-       | Sprintlink NL                                  |
| 7   |       | 217.149.32.99   | sl-bb20-ams-9-0.sprintlink.net    | Amsterdam, Netherlands | +01:00 | 42  | --x-       | Sprintlink NL                                  |
| 8   |       | 213.206.131.46  | -                                 | ?(United Kingdom)      | *      | 11  | x          | Sprintlink UK                                  |
| 9   |       | 213.244.165.97  | ae0-55.mp1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net  | Amsterdam, Netherlands | +01:00 | 12  | x-         | Level (3) Communications                       |
| 10  |       | 212.187.128.25  | so-0-0-0.mp2.London1.Level3.net   | London, UK             | *      | 19  |  x         | European MPLS core                             |
| 11  |       | 212.187.128.153 | so-1-0-0.bbr2.NewYork1.level3.net | New York, NY, USA      | -05:00 | 125 |       -x-  | Transatlantic cable systems                    |
| 12  |       | 64.159.4.181    | unknown.Level3.net                | -                      |        | 127 |       -x-  | Level 3 Communications, Inc. LC-ORG-ARIN       |
| 13  |       | 64.159.4.162    | gige11-1.hsa1.Boston1.Level3.net  | Boston, MA, USA        | -05:00 | 129 |       -x-  | Level 3 Communications, Inc. LC-ORG-ARIN       |
| 14  |       | 63.208.194.32   | www.microsoft.com                 | -                      |        | 130 |       -x-- | Level 3 Communications, Inc. LEVEL4-CIDR       |
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Roundtrip time to www.microsoft.com, average = 130ms, min = 104ms, max = 152ms -- 3-nov-03 23:29:49


Het lijkt dus dat het toch ergens zit tussen versatel en sprintlink.

  • JvS
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JvS

Ik heb hem zelf ook

opvallend, jij hebt kpn-adsl (aan dat 195.190 adres te zien), dat gaat uiteindelijk ook via versatel du

4x APsystems DS3; 4x495Wp OZO/WNW 10° ; 4x460Wp OZO/WNW 10°; Totaal 3820Wp


  • raymonvdm
  • Registratie: December 2001
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Dit komt waarschijnlijk omdat 62.58.242.* eigendom is van zonnet Ik heb dus een Zon Extra Abbo waar ik lekker tevreden over ben zeker wanneer je de helpdesk niet nodig hebt voor problemen. Daar je namelijk het zon forum daar zitten de diehards van zon ook die helpen je zelfs in het weekend 8)

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 inetnum:      62.58.240.0 - 62.58.247.255
netname:      ZONNET-CUST-ADSL-3
descr:        Zon internet is one of the largest free ISP in the Netherlands
country:      NL
admin-c:      ZA134-RIPE
tech-c:       ZA134-RIPE
tech-c:       VT1029-RIPE
remarks:      ------------------------------------------
remarks:      For abuse issues please contact
remarks:      abuse@zonnet.nl
remarks:      ------------------------------------------
status:       ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by:       AS13127-MNT
changed:      Hostmaster@Versatel.net 20021105
changed:      hostmaster@versatel.net 20021218
source:       RIPE

[ Voor 15% gewijzigd door raymonvdm op 04-11-2003 02:08 ]


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Het probleem speelt alleen in de drukke middag- en avonduren. Versatel zoekt naar een oplossing en heeft het probleem bij Sprint gemeld. Gisteravond om 21:45 zat de ping via Sprint op 700 ms.

Verwijderd

Verwijderd schreef op 07 november 2003 @ 10:56:
Het probleem speelt alleen in de drukke middag- en avonduren. Versatel zoekt naar een oplossing en heeft het probleem bij Sprint gemeld. Gisteravond om 21:45 zat de ping via Sprint op 700 ms.
Is er nou al een oplossing gevonden?? :7 ik wil gamen!
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