Ik heb zojuist weer gemaild naar Chaintech, ik zal maar meteen het hele verhaal even plakken:
Is het trouwens handig dat ik een eventuele reply in deze qoute bij plaats, of zal ik het apart of weer in z'n geheel posten?
Dear Sir/Madam,
Your explanation would hold ground if the Apogee tool would be a replacement
for the BIOS software and the ONLY interface to be able to modify system
settings. The BIOS software however, provides even higher settings, which are
loaded at each (re)start and thus allow a user to boot the system in an
overclocked state.
In that light, the Apogee tool is merely a comfortable GUI to EXPERIMENT with
system settings and apply them "on-the-fly" without rebooting. Those settings
are however rendered useless at a computer restart, since the settings in the
BIOS software are loaded at system startup.
Apart from that, if one would use the Apogee tool to set Vcore to 2.00V and
push the FSB up to 200Mhz (which can be simply achieved by adjusting the
sliders and pressing the GO button), there is an equal chance of damaging
components than by overclocking via the BIOS software. In fact, adjusting
system settings used to be something only done by experienced users. Providing
novice users with the Apogee tool only increases the chances of damaging
components, since nothing is preventing them from moving all sliders to their
maximum setting and activating them.
Again, that discussion isn't the real issue. My question was primarily about
the fact that the Apogee tool and the BIOS software both offer the SAME AMOUNT
of Vcore steppings (16 each) but NOT the SAME RANGE. Since the Apogee tool
allows me to set the Vcore value BELOW the default value, this setting - in my
humble opinion - must somehow be "hidden" in the mainbord / BIOS. It seems to
me, that the Apogee tool and BIOS software are contradictionary, or perhaps my
logic is flawed?
Best regards,
> Dear Sir:
>
> As I stated earlier it is entirely intentional that you
> can not boot the system in overclocked mode as to be honest,
> traditional hardware overclocking results in a higher rate
> of damaged boards, as components are pushed beyond their limits.
> Chaintech will never make any changes to the Apogee Overclock
> program which will allow the computer to preform any sort of
> auto-overclocking. With this info provided I consider this
> issue closed.
>
> Yours sincerely,
> Chaintech Technical Support
>
> Chaintech Europe
> Coenecoop 620
> 2741 PV WADDINXVEEN
> THE NETHERLANDS
>
> ( Phone: +31-(0)182-623960
> ( Fax: +31-(0)182-623969
> ;* E-mail: support@chaintech.nl <mailto:support@chaintech.nl>
> : Web: <http://www.chaintech.dk/>;
>
> -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 9:48 PM
> To: Chaintech Technical Support
> Subject: Re: RE: Apogee support (Re:[ -==Please Read!==---Chaintech
> TechnicalSupport==--])
>
> Dear Sir/ Madam,
>
> I fail to see the use of the Apogee overclocking tool, when
> one has to load the preffered settings manually EVERYTIME the
> system is rebooted. The values that are manually set in the
> BIOS software "overrule" the settings that are made by the
> Apogee tool.
>
> Apart from that, I find it strange that the Apogee tool provides
> Vcore settings from 1.55V up to 2.00V, while the BIOS offers
> a setting from default (1,65V) up to 2.20V. It seems like the
> settings range is somehow "shifted":
>
> Apogee Vcore settings availeble:
>
> 1.55
> 1,575
> 1,60
> 1,625
> 1,65
> 1,675
> 1,70
> 1,725
> 1,75
> 1,775
> 1,80
> 1,825
> 1,85
> 1,90
> 1,95
> 2.00
>
> BIOS Vcore settings available:
>
> Default (which is 1,65V for my AthlonXP 2200+)
> 1,675
> 1,70
> 1,725
> 1,75
> 1,775
> 1,80
> 1,825
> 1,85
> 1,90
> 1,95
> 2.00
> 2,05
> 2,10
> 2,15
> 2,20
>
> It would make sense if both ranges were equal. Moreover, if
> that were the case, I wouldn't be bothering you with this question.
>
> If there isn't a "BIOS setting" solution to my problem; is
> there at least a way to start the Apogee tool MINIMIZED in
> the System Tray at Windows startup and make it load the saved
> (preferred) settings AUTOMATICALLY? That alone would already
> be greatly benificial.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> >Dear Sir:
> >
>
> > The fact that you can not boot the computer with the altered settings
> >and have to setup up any altered setting thru Apogee is entirely
> intentional
> >and will never be changed. Chaintech only supports this "soft" form of
> >overclocking thru Apogee rather than any "traditional" overclocking
> directly
> >thru the Bios.
> >
> >
> >Yours sincerely,
> >Chaintech Technical Support
> >
> >Chaintech Europe
> >Coenecoop 620
> >2741 PV WADDINXVEEN
> >THE NETHERLANDS
> >
> >;( Phone: +31-(0)182-623960
> >;( Fax: +31-(0)182-623969
> >;* E-mail: support@chaintech.nl <mailto:support@chaintech.nl>
> >: Web: <http://www.chaintech.dk/>;
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 3:56 PM
> >To: support@chaintech.nl
> >Subject: Apogee support (Re:[ -==Please Read!==---Chaintech Technical
> >Support==--])
> >
> >
> >Since my question has not been answered in the text below, and since it's
> >more
> >like a "Bug-report", I will state it again:
> >
> >In the BIOS-software, one can adjust the Vcore CPU voltage setting from
> >"default" to 1.675V all the way up to 2.200V in steps of 0.025V. I've
> >noticed
> >that the Apogee overclocking tool ( Ver. 1.43) under Windows allows me to
> >set
> >the Vcore BELOW default values, namely 1.625, 1.60, 1.575 and 1.55V.
> >
> >At 1.55 Volts, my AthlonXP happily runs all benchmarks and burn-in tests
> >without any stability problems, while generating less heat (about 5-6 Deg.
> >C)
> >than at default setting (1,650V). You 'll probably understand that I prefer
> >to
> >use the 1.55V setting, since less heat is always better. The problem is,
> >that
> >I have to adjust the Vcore setting (via the Apogee overclocking-tool)
> >manually
> >EACH time I reboot my computer, since the BIOS resets the Vcore value to
> >"default" (1.65V). That isn't a very practical solution. Is
> there a solution
> >to this problem?
> >
> >Computer specs:
> >
> >Mobo: Apogee 7VJL Deluxe (KT400)
> >CPU: AthlonXP 2200+
> >Video: Geforce Ti-4200
> >Ram: 512MB pc2700
> >OS: WinXP Prof SP1
> >BIOS string: JS6LYC0CC-00
> >BIOS date: 08/01/2002
> >
> >BTW, the 7VJL board isn't listed in the Mainbord BIOS list at
> >http://www.chaintech.com.tw . I did find a BiosFile download named:
> >7VJL0821.exe at - I believe - the Chaintechusa website, but on an attempted
> >flash, it reports a "wrong version". Is there a BIOS update for this
> >particular board, and if so, where can I download it?
> >
> >Regards,
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