XDC Plans

[KeeZ]

Gisteren kreeg ik een mailtje van Randy, waarin hij zijn plannen met XDC uit te doeken deed.

Misschien is het beter dat hij het zelf even doet, maar daar is een forum voor aangemaakt... op http://www.extremedc.com staat een forum genaamd DPC. Er is een w8woord aan gekoppelt, en het lijkt me niet het meest verstandig deze hier openbaar te maken (gezien er ook NL Ars luitjes hier spioneren) hoe ga ik dit w8woord openbaar maken ?? je kan me natuurlijk een e-mail sturen (maar ik wil niet weten hoeveel er dan komen op mn profiel e-mailadres

andere mogelijkheden zijn -uiteraard- welkom

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Euh.. de speciaal voor randy ontwikkelde mf-language

[KeeZ]

Verwijderd schreef op 26 september 2002 @ 11:04:
Euh.. de speciaal voor randy ontwikkelde mf-language

Zo dom zou Ars toch niet zijn ?? die kent m vast ook wel....

[Dutchman!]

Het lijkt me niet de bedoeling het extreme DC forum als 'hoofd' forum te gaan gebruiken?

[Verwijderd]

ja maar dat gramatica-vautive nederlands, van ons, gekoppelt aan onze mf-language daar komen ze nooit uit en dan gaan zde onze codering proberen te bruteforce breken dmv idle pc powa gaat hun productie ook meteen achteruit. maareu ik denk toch dat jou surgestie het beste was.

[Mobster]

Dutchman! is right. If Randy wants to share something with the DPC he can post it over here.
We allready have a 'secret forum' and this will divide the DPC even further.

So post it here or don't post it. We'll notice his plans when he does what he plans to do.

Just my 2 cents.

[KeeZ]

daar is -natuurlijk- randy niet van op de hoogte....

iemand me trouwens al gemailt

maar goed... ik hoop dat ze op dat forum even laten weten hoe en wat....

trouwens, ideetje... teamleaders zouden jullie mij slechts willen mailen ?? anders heb ik 650 mails staan... (geen zin om trug te mailen ) ik zie ze wel verschijnen... puur ter info dus wat XDC van plan is.

[_DPC_Scorpion]

Randy is wel degelijk op de hoogte van het secret forum

hij heeft al access gevraagd maatr nog niet gekregen

ik zit ook al op bezoek bij XDC maar de belangrijkste dingen gebeuren ehct hier hoor

[KeeZ]

_DPC_Scorpion schreef op 26 september 2002 @ 11:37:
Randy is wel degelijk op de hoogte van het secret forum

hij heeft al access gevraagd maatr nog niet gekregen

ik zit ook al op bezoek bij XDC maar de belangrijkste dingen gebeuren ehct hier hoor

ok. jij bent dus ook al op de hoogte -neem ik aan- van de ontwikkelingen wat XDC betreft ??

[Funcracker]

KeeZ schreef op 26 september 2002 @ 12:57:
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ok. jij bent dus ook al op de hoogte -neem ik aan- van de ontwikkelingen wat XDC betreft ??

Ik neem aan dat jijzelf al eens hebt rondgekeken in dat forum (neem trouwens aan dat je het DPC/XDC secret forum daar bedoelt) dan zie je dat Scorpion en ik daar al tijdje actief zijn. Het is meer bedoeld als communicatie aan ons, ik heb zelf de belangrijkste dingen hier al een aantal keren genoemd. Voor de zekerheid heb ik Randy maar ff gevraagd of ik het w8woord in ons prive forum mag posten, dan kan iedereen erin.

Volgens mij zijn er niet trouwens meer ontwikkelingen dan er hier al gemeld zijn..

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Mobster schreef op 26 september 2002 @ 11:20:
Dutchman! is right. If Randy wants to share something with the DPC he can post it over here.
We allready have a 'secret forum' and this will divide the DPC even further.

So post it here or don't post it. We'll notice his plans when he does what he plans to do.

Just my 2 cents.

Here's a dollar now you have more

If you're not interested in visiting my site, don't! The only people that will devide the DPC more are people that post negative things. I do not plan on posting information that only the DPC and XDC people should know in a public forum. I asked for the password to your private forum and was told it might not be a good thing. I would post in the HK, that is a place were no one can look unless they know it is thee, but that is not the place for DC related topics.

So what do you want

[Funcracker]

Verwijderd schreef op 26 september 2002 @ 13:30:
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Here's a dollar now you have more

If you're not interested in visiting my site, don't! The only people that will devide the DPC more are people that post negative things. I do not plan on posting information that only the DPC and XDC people should know in a public forum. I asked for the password to your private forum and was told it might not be a good thing. I would post in the HK, that is a place were no one can look unless they know it is thee, but that is not the place for DC related topics.

So what do you want

Randy, peace
This has nothing to do with you. We do have a private forum since a few weeks, but a few DPC'ers don't support it. They believe an extra private forum would be a bad thing. I'm still not sure why, but it's the truth. You can imagine their reactions when we add another secret forum, which would bring our total # of ECCp forums to 3. That's the reason you get reactions like this, please ignore them.. I've had the same reactions when I created the private forum.

Furthermore: I'm willing to add you to our private forum, but as I told you I'm not the only one that decides (though I'm the only one with that power). I've heard nothing from my fellow DPC members, so haven't done a thing since then. If they agree, I will add you. After the last two days, I can't think of a reason why not to..

p.s. I've posted the password to the DPC/XDC forum in our private one.
(Dutch)Het wachtwoord van het XDC/DPC forum van Randy is te vinden in ons prive forum.

[DSmarty]

DPC is an united effort in Distributed Computing.
It's roots can be found in this forum and on www.dutchpowercows.org

It's not a good idea to add extra private forums, it's bad for the team spirit and it's not good for the group we are (all dc-projects) combined.

[Funcracker]

DSmarty schreef op 26 september 2002 @ 13:41:
DPC is an united effort in Distributed Computing.
It's roots can be found in this forum and on www.dutchpowercows.org

It's not a good idea to add extra private forums, it's bad for the team spirit and it's not good for the group we are (all dc-projects) combined.

offtopic:
Why is it bad for the team spirit?

Since the other teams have Dutch members too, we cannot discuss private matters in secret anymore. If we would have had a private forum a few months ago, no team except us would have known about our GF..

[Mobster]

OK. You misinterpreted my post or maybe I just wasn't clear enough in it. Sorry about that.

What I meant was that Gathering of Tweakers is the homebase of DPC and we thank the owners of this forum that we can post here. We allready were put on a sidetrack concerning the frontpage. Some DPC-members opened a private forum and now there is even a special DPC-section on the ExtremeDC forum. I want to prevent that the forum-owners think that the DPC can survive without this place because we allready have other forums where we post as being DPC.
Another risk is that with so many other forums people will visit this forum less frequent. Also it doesn't seem very hospitable to me for new members. How do they know where to find some answers and so forth. Sure it's nice to surprise your fellow teammates and your adversaries but what is wrong with keeping it to yourself? It seems to me that the DPC are creating a 'I know something you don't know atmosphere' and I'm not very happy about that. We're now creating a speciale elite ECCp unit in my opinion. This is absolutely not a remark just for you but to every Cow out there.

What do I want? Good question and not easy to answer. I'll have to sleep on that one.

And thankx for the buck. I just saw at CNN that it's worth 97 Eurocents.
_{I hope you understand me a bit better now. I gave it my best English shot}

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private forum??

ik heb een hoop gemist tijdens mijn vakantie

iemand een linkje

e-mail > [e-mail]

[Funcracker]

Mobster schreef op 26 september 2002 @ 13:51:
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Since I don't intend to stay offtopic here, this will be my last post regarding this subject..

As you should know Mobster, it has been pointed out very clear to everybody that the private forum in no way is intended for public messages. Its only purpose is to make sure we can plan flushes, post saved dp counts and so on. All other topics should be posted over here. As you can see, when you go there, the forum's activity is nearly zero. And that's exactly how it's supposed to be. You also have to admit that it can come in handy, as is the case now with Randy's password.

I don't see the elite problem you're talking about. Everybody has access, or will get acces over time (not that I want to delay that, but for safety reasons I have to).
The 'I know something you don't know atmosphere' has always been present on this forum, as regards us (the DPC) and our foes. It is the forum's intention to keep it that way. It will make us even more unpredictable, and thus will give us greater joy in planning these thing.

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Mo-Bees: www.funcracker.net/forum

[Mobster]

Funcracker I hope you're right. Maybe I'm just an old fart and I tend to think back to the days where everything was always out in the open and everybody knew what was going on. (talking about over a year ago).

But I think already one 'negative' thing (for DPC) of all this secrecy has been developed. Some DPC-ers are not helping out at ECCp because they think/know that there are large buffers here and there. One group can say that there is nothing left but nobody believes each other anymore. That's what I mean when I talk about seperation.

En hier laat ik het ook maar bij We dwalen af.

[n0kn0k]

"Some DPC-ers are not helping out at ECCp because they think/know that there are large buffers here and there."

The whole perpose of that "secret" forum is to get that in the open(for DPC, not for Ars) so that we can see what help we need

Who can say what we are holding back if we can't even communicate about it

[KeeZ]

Verwijderd schreef op 26 september 2002 @ 13:30:
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Here's a dollar now you have more

If you're not interested in visiting my site, don't! The only people that will devide the DPC more are people that post negative things. I do not plan on posting information that only the DPC and XDC people should know in a public forum. I asked for the password to your private forum and was told it might not be a good thing. I would post in the HK, that is a place were no one can look unless they know it is thee, but that is not the place for DC related topics.

So what do you want

sorry randy i posted your message this late, but Ive just got the same problems as you did with my ISP, and im sorry nobody is interested in your strategy with Ars, Ill join your forum as it was this one, and one forum more aint a problem for the most DPC'ers I guess.... at least some members of TCF will join the forum, we might do some flushing together if we have too..... Im just speaking my own opinion not the one of our team so don't hang on it too much.

As said, DPC is only flushing with 22 percent of its members... I haven't seen the history so far, but I guess a lot of people retired without really saying it.

Well thanks for your effort, and Ill send the e-mail out to all the peeps that have mailed me to ask for the password of the secret DPC forum.

[Funcracker]

n0kn0k schreef op 26 september 2002 @ 15:21:

Agreed, maar laten we het hier nu even niet meer over hebben. Zo verzieken we dit topic een beetje.

Hoewel het volgens mij ook wel gesloten kan worden..

Ownee, KeeZ moest nog even reageren op mijn eerste post

[Mobster]

Funcracker schreef op 26 september 2002 @ 14:07:
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Since I don't intend to stay offtopic here, this will be my last post regarding this subject..
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Leugebeest

* Mobster zelluf leugebeesT

Flushen!

[KeeZ]

Funcracker schreef op 26 september 2002 @ 13:27:
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Ik neem aan dat jijzelf al eens hebt rondgekeken in dat forum (neem trouwens aan dat je het DPC/XDC secret forum daar bedoelt) dan zie je dat Scorpion en ik daar al tijdje actief zijn. Het is meer bedoeld als communicatie aan ons, ik heb zelf de belangrijkste dingen hier al een aantal keren genoemd. Voor de zekerheid heb ik Randy maar ff gevraagd of ik het w8woord in ons prive forum mag posten, dan kan iedereen erin.

Volgens mij zijn er niet trouwens meer ontwikkelingen dan er hier al gemeld zijn..

ach een paar leuke grapjes om Ars voor de grap te houden... verder niet lijkt me

[GeniusDex]

Gaat inmiddels over UT daar Maar de plannen staan er iig wel
En mebe is er nog un beetje hoop enzow omdat RC5 nu afgeloopt isse

[KeeZ]

GeniusDex schreef op 26 september 2002 @ 17:57:
Gaat inmiddels over UT daar Maar de plannen staan er iig wel
En mebe is er nog un beetje hoop enzow omdat RC5 nu afgeloopt isse

ach 1 forumpje meer of minder over UT

idd, ik hoop dat er meer support komt vanuit de RC5 hoek... vast wel....

[MM-]

Ja laten we hopen dat we wat meer kracht krijgen nu