Hallo,
Ik heb pasgeleden een topic geopend waar al snel een slotje op kwam. Kort gezegd was ik gefrustreerd over de schaarse upgrade mogelijkheden voor oudere computers. Ik vond dat Intel ons benadeelde.
Daarop schreef ik een e-mail naar Intel. Ik wil niet hierover doorzeuren, omdat ik mijn lot al heb geaccepteerd
Maar toch wil ik even de reactie posten die Intel hierop gaf. (Wel netjes toch dat ze me fatsoenlijk geantwoord hebben.)
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Mijn e-mail:
Dear Intel,
I want to upgrade my PII-350 system to a Celeron 1GHz system so I can be happy for another 3 years or so. Only the 100FSB Coppermines are sold out everywhere? Why did you stop producing them? To force me into buying a brand new computer? I noticed that 133FSB are still available everywhere, so it seems like intended discuragement of budget-upgraders. I'd appreciate an honest answer regarding your policy on this please.
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Intel's antwoord:
Hello:
Thank you for contacting Intel(R) Customer Support.
I see that you have questions on the Intel(R) Celeron(R) processors in the .18 Micron technology.
The decision to discontinue a product is based on market demand for that particular product. When it is no longer cost effective to produce, they will discontinue the product. Another consideration for discontinuing a product is technology advances. Technology over the last two years has progressed so rapidly that occasionally we have seen a product with first notification of discontinue, occur within three months of it's release date. The demand for business applications is for faster, more powerful processors. In previous years the business demands increased more rapidly then home user or "value PC" demand. Now we have seen a big jump in value PC demand as systems become more affordable. In addition, the home user has access to more games, they can run movies and so many more things that the demand for home users to have faster and more powerful processors is almost as high as the business demand. To keep up with this demand and be competitive with other processor manufact!
urers, Intel(R) must continue to develop products to meet that demand.
Technical support does not have access to any marketing projections. Intel(R) does not sell product directly to the public, but goes through distributors and resellers. Anytime a Intel(R) product is discontinued it will be posted at the following website, from the first notification:
http://www.intel.com/design/pcn/index.htm
The Product Change Notification (PCN) contains the last order date for the product. The first PCN for the .18 Micron technology Intel Celeron Processors was in 7/2001 and the last speeds of the .18 Micron technology PCN was posted in 12/2001.
You may find the following information helpful in locating the 1GHz Intel(R) Celeron(R) processor:
We do not sell directly, but through vendors and distributors, who are also responsible for retail pricing.
Here are the order numbers for boxed Intel Celeron processors:
http://support.intel.com/support/processors/celeron/poc.htm
A list of system manufacturers and vendors is here:
<http://www.intel.com/home/buyers-guide/vff_p4.htm?iid=P4PlaunchFlash+025&>
There is a list of Intel(R) Premiere Providers here:
<http://intel.infonow.net/bin/findNow?CLIENT_ID=INTEL>
There is a list of industrial distributors posted at:
<http://developer.intel.com/design/disti/>
There are also some third party sale sites:
<http://www.pricewatch.com>
<http://www.mwave.com>
<http://www.thechipmerchant.com>
<http://www.necx.com>
Contact some of these vendors to see if this is a product they carry or if they can point you to a vendor that does sell them.
Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.
Best regards,
Carla L.
Intel(R) Customer Support
* Trademarks of other companies are recognized as owned by the respective companies
Intel's trademarks may not be used without written permission of Intel
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Ik vind toch dat ze een beetje om het onderwerp heendraaien, maar ja. Laat maar hangen. Case closed.
Ik heb pasgeleden een topic geopend waar al snel een slotje op kwam. Kort gezegd was ik gefrustreerd over de schaarse upgrade mogelijkheden voor oudere computers. Ik vond dat Intel ons benadeelde.
Daarop schreef ik een e-mail naar Intel. Ik wil niet hierover doorzeuren, omdat ik mijn lot al heb geaccepteerd
Maar toch wil ik even de reactie posten die Intel hierop gaf. (Wel netjes toch dat ze me fatsoenlijk geantwoord hebben.)
==============================================
Mijn e-mail:
Dear Intel,
I want to upgrade my PII-350 system to a Celeron 1GHz system so I can be happy for another 3 years or so. Only the 100FSB Coppermines are sold out everywhere? Why did you stop producing them? To force me into buying a brand new computer? I noticed that 133FSB are still available everywhere, so it seems like intended discuragement of budget-upgraders. I'd appreciate an honest answer regarding your policy on this please.
===============================================
Intel's antwoord:
Hello:
Thank you for contacting Intel(R) Customer Support.
I see that you have questions on the Intel(R) Celeron(R) processors in the .18 Micron technology.
The decision to discontinue a product is based on market demand for that particular product. When it is no longer cost effective to produce, they will discontinue the product. Another consideration for discontinuing a product is technology advances. Technology over the last two years has progressed so rapidly that occasionally we have seen a product with first notification of discontinue, occur within three months of it's release date. The demand for business applications is for faster, more powerful processors. In previous years the business demands increased more rapidly then home user or "value PC" demand. Now we have seen a big jump in value PC demand as systems become more affordable. In addition, the home user has access to more games, they can run movies and so many more things that the demand for home users to have faster and more powerful processors is almost as high as the business demand. To keep up with this demand and be competitive with other processor manufact!
urers, Intel(R) must continue to develop products to meet that demand.
Technical support does not have access to any marketing projections. Intel(R) does not sell product directly to the public, but goes through distributors and resellers. Anytime a Intel(R) product is discontinued it will be posted at the following website, from the first notification:
http://www.intel.com/design/pcn/index.htm
The Product Change Notification (PCN) contains the last order date for the product. The first PCN for the .18 Micron technology Intel Celeron Processors was in 7/2001 and the last speeds of the .18 Micron technology PCN was posted in 12/2001.
You may find the following information helpful in locating the 1GHz Intel(R) Celeron(R) processor:
We do not sell directly, but through vendors and distributors, who are also responsible for retail pricing.
Here are the order numbers for boxed Intel Celeron processors:
http://support.intel.com/support/processors/celeron/poc.htm
A list of system manufacturers and vendors is here:
<http://www.intel.com/home/buyers-guide/vff_p4.htm?iid=P4PlaunchFlash+025&>
There is a list of Intel(R) Premiere Providers here:
<http://intel.infonow.net/bin/findNow?CLIENT_ID=INTEL>
There is a list of industrial distributors posted at:
<http://developer.intel.com/design/disti/>
There are also some third party sale sites:
<http://www.pricewatch.com>
<http://www.mwave.com>
<http://www.thechipmerchant.com>
<http://www.necx.com>
Contact some of these vendors to see if this is a product they carry or if they can point you to a vendor that does sell them.
Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.
Best regards,
Carla L.
Intel(R) Customer Support
* Trademarks of other companies are recognized as owned by the respective companies
Intel's trademarks may not be used without written permission of Intel
===========================================
Ik vind toch dat ze een beetje om het onderwerp heendraaien, maar ja. Laat maar hangen. Case closed.
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Tja tis geen auto ofzo tis maar een computer. Misschien kun je 2de hands nog zo'n processor krijgen. En je pc is gewoon outdated. Als je vandaag de dag moet upgraden is een nieuwe mobo onvermijdelijk. Aangezien de mobo's in een ongekend tempo worden vernieuwd en verbeterd.