Alternative to Odido Zyxel

[cucumbersome]

Hi!

I have Odido for a while and I have been using their router ZYXEL T-54, but I always had issues with it (My setup is full wireless; no ethernet cables around). I notice this mainly in the form of lag spikes while gaming:

• I play online games (e.g. Call of Duty, Insurgence Sandstorm, etc) which I noticed lag-spikes intermittently, causing stutters and other weird things such as the sound dissaperaring and coming back after 1-2 seconds
• I built a local gaming streaming from my Desktop to my TV using Apollo + Moonlight, and the local network simply can't handle it. As soon as one extra device connects to it and starts to use the network (e.g. watch a Youtube in 4K) , the whole gaming experience degrades with jitters and slow connection warnings;

The issues above both confirmed that the router was the bottleneck. When using the cable directly into it, the issues were gone. The router is located in the hallway in the middle of my apartment; the wifi signal is strong in all devices that are using it.

So I ended up upgrading from Zyxel T-54 to Fritzbox 5090 Pro , which seemed like a great improvement. I noticed that I could do my gaming streaming with multiple devices connected and using the network without any issues, which is a great improvement, but one problem still there: I am still having jitters/lag-spikes constantly every 10 minutes, which ends up degrading both the multiplayer and localhost experience. (Btw, I am investigating this on here in case anyone is interested to look at).

So, while waiting for the answer from Frtizbox support and Reddit folks, I am also looking for possible router alternatives to Fritzbox which I can use to fix my setup.

Does anyone have any recommendations for other routes? or perhaps any suggestions in how can I fix this problem?

Thanks!

[CH4OS]

De beste manier blijft om van draadloos af te stappen en bedraad te gaan, dat blijft de beste verbinding en geeft het minste gedoe.

[FredvZ]

cucumbersome schreef op zondag 30 augustus 2026 @ 12:04:
The issues above both confirmed that the router was the bottleneck. When using the cable directly into it, the issues were gone. The router is located in the hallway in the middle of my apartment; the wifi signal is strong in all devices that are using it.
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Does anyone have any recommendations for other routes? or perhaps any suggestions in how can I fix this problem?

Ik vermoed dat het issue eerder te wijten is aan de verschillende wifi signalen van jou en die van je buren die op elkaar interfereren. Dat past precies op de verstoringen die je nu ervaart met gamen en streamen.

Dé oplossing: kabels gebruiken voor gaming en streaming.

[cucumbersome]

I get it, cable solves the problem, but it is too much of hassle for me to pull it around the whole apartment unfortunately.

It is hard to believe the neighbors Wifi is causing this too. This is a periodic latency spike that happens every 10 minutes, it is not a spike that happens randomly, and its interval is very specific: every 10 minutes, on a specific timestamp interval such as 18h:17m:40s, 18h:27m:40s , and so on. I can also see that I am the only one using 5 GHz channel 36. So it feels like neighbor signals it not the issue here..

[Illusion]

Check the logs of the Fritzbox to see if it's killing the 5Ghz due to DFS interference. Should not happen, since 36 is not a DFS channel, but you never know.

[cucumbersome]

@Illusion I thought about that too.. I checked it, but there are no messages about switching channels

Interesting to mention that I turned on the Zyxel from Odido and set 5 GHz network, channel 36, 80 MHz (same setup as the Fritzbox), and let it run for half hour. There was no latency spikes.. So I am assuming that neighbor signal is not the issue here.

Any thoughts on which other routers I could use instead of the Frtizbox?

[nelizmastr]

Elke router die om kan gaan met VLAN’s voldoet. Als je meer speciale instelmogelijkheden wil om te kunnen tweaken is de UDR7 van Ubiquiti een optie. Kost wat maar dan heb je ook wat.

Anders heb je nog Asus waar je indien nodig Merlin firmware op kunt gebruiken, Mikrotik heeft ook e.e.a. maar is niet geschikt voor beginners en zo zijn er meer merken en types te koop.

[cucumbersome]

I paid quite a bit on the Fritzbox (paid around 300 euros on MediaMarkt), but I am planning to return it if the problem does not get fixed and then I could get the Ubiquiti UDR7.

About the Asus model, which one do you recommend? I see plenty on Amazon but I am not a really expert into this topic. Thank you

[SMSfreakie]

You could test with a temporary wire....
If it happens every 10 min... It's a quick test

[MAX3400]

Als meerdere devices tegelijk hun WiFi "afbreken" en dat met meerdere routers gebeurt, voelt het heel erg alsof je ergens een configuratie hebt neergezet die niet kan of werkt.

Daarnaast is het wegvallen van geluid, in game, niet direct te relateren aan WiFi.

Verder vraag ik me eens af wat er wel ingesteld staat want "4K in Youtube" is gewoon een meetbaar iets in bandbreedte dus ga maar eens kijken wat er nu precies wegvalt op welk device bij welke bandbreedte-belasting.

Aangezien het op de Cat5/6 wel goed gaat, heb ik gewoon het gevoel dat er iets in jouw gehele WiFi-setup een storing oplevert en daardoor "kotst" de router elke 10 minuten iets uit waar alles last van heeft.

[cucumbersome]

@SMSfreakie I tested with a wire, the problem is gone. Happens only on Wifi

@MAX3400 I will test the PingPlotter disconnecting multiple devices from it and seeing if the issue persists. It could be that a specific device is doing that.. I haven't seen that before though! That is new to me

[SMSfreakie]

Ok its WiFi only.. its present with the Odido Zyxel modem and the Fritz!box modem?

and how many wifi clients are connected?
which wifi adapter, / driver version?

[laurens0619]

Als het echt iedere 10 minuten is.
Begin eens met ALLE clients van het wifi afhalen en met 1 client te beginnen
Komt het dan nog voor? (wel een client met een goede verbinding signal quality)

[cucumbersome]

@SMSfreakie I did the extensive testing on Frtizbox modem, although I had issues with Odido Zyxel but I haven't tested it throughly.

I usually have around 10 devices connected to the wifi; usually 2 on 2.4 GHz and the rest on the 5 GHz networks. Right now I am using Frtizbox 5090 Pro, firmware 8.25

But I have some insights, I did what @laurens0619 and @MAX3400 said and started performing the test per client, connecting one by one to the Wifi, and the outcome is that once my iPhone 17 Pro and/or Apple Watch connects to the network, the whole latency spike issue starts! It does happen every 10 min or so; sometimes it does not happen, but in one hour it usually happen 3-5 times. When my Macbook connects there is no problem at all, the issue seems to be related to the iPhone/watch

[laurens0619]

Je zou eens de 6ghz band of MLO uit kunnen zetten, kijken of dat iets doet

Niet ideaal maar puur voor troubleshooting

[ Voor 3% gewijzigd door laurens0619 op 31-08-2026 22:21 ]

[cucumbersome]

The 6 GHz band is disabled. I have enabled 2 GHz (channel 12) and 5 GHz (channel 36) in two different SSIDs.

MLO does not seem to be currently happening, and the Fritzbox Wiki says MLO does not work if the names of the Wi-Fi network (SSID) are not identical, which is my current case.

These are the devices connected and some properties, maybe it gives some insights

[MAX3400]

Je zou eens WiFi Assist kunnen uitzetten op de iPhone en kijken of dat beter gaat?

Verder, maar dat is persoonlijk en niet geheel gerelateerd aan jouw issue: als (fervent) Android-gebruiker merk ik dat elk netwerk dat ooit verbonden is of elke APN die ik ooit gepusht / verbonden ben geweest, wordt opgeslagen. Enkele keren heeft dat echt voor problemen gezorgd met roaming in het buitenland en heb ik alle WiFi & APN's uit mijn telefoon gegooid. Geen idee of er ergens op de iPhone iets dergelijks bestaat of een netwerk reset of iets dergelijks.

[Frogmen]

Ik zou om te beginnen eens de twee ssid wijzigen in een voor alle kanalen. Laat de apparatuur het zelf maar regelen. Kan al veel schelen.

[SMSfreakie]

So it seems when the iPhone 17 pro and the apple watch aren't connected it seems to work fine?? Can you keep those suspect devices off the network for a longer test? (24h should be enough)

Just to make sure it's not a coincidence..
And to which network do they connect normally? 2.4ghz of the 5ghz?

And do both networks (2.4 and 5g) have exactly the same issues? Or didn't you test that...

[Shinji]

cucumbersome schreef op maandag 31 augustus 2026 @ 23:02:
The 6 GHz band is disabled. I have enabled 2 GHz (channel 12) and 5 GHz (channel 36) in two different SSIDs.

MLO does not seem to be currently happening, and the Fritzbox Wiki says MLO does not work if the names of the Wi-Fi network (SSID) are not identical, which is my current case.

These are the devices connected and some properties, maybe it gives some insights

[Afbeelding]

Kanaal 12 zou ik niet doen hier in NL. Kan voor veel interference zorgen met andere netwerken op kanaal 11. Kies 1, 6 of 11 voor de 2,4GHz tenzij je in een hutje op de hei woont.

[cucumbersome]

@Frogmen So, I started splitting the Wifi channels because I thought it would solve this issue, but turned out it didn't fix it


@SMSfreakie I did a test this afternoon - disconnected the iPhones and just connected my Macbook and my LG TV on the 5 GHz channel and the issue still continued.. I am using the TV, Desktop, Macbooks and iPhones/AppleWatch on 5 GHz. Other devices such as Google Nest, Chromecast, I connect on 2 GHz .

I didn't test the 2 GHz network. I did focus only on 5 GHz

@Shinji I can see the wifi networks in the vicinity through the router and I am the only one on the 12. The ones you mentioned are more busy. But I am not sure if that is the issue since I am testing the 5 GHz one

[Shinji]

cucumbersome schreef op dinsdag 1 september 2026 @ 20:41:
@Frogmen So, I started splitting the Wifi channels because I thought it would solve this issue, but turned out it didn't fix it


@SMSfreakie I did a test this afternoon - disconnected the iPhones and just connected my Macbook and my LG TV on the 5 GHz channel and the issue still continued.. I am using the TV, Desktop, Macbooks and iPhones/AppleWatch on 5 GHz. Other devices such as Google Nest, Chromecast, I connect on 2 GHz .

I didn't test the 2 GHz network. I did focus only on 5 GHz ~~~[Afbeelding]

@Shinji I can see the wifi networks in the vicinity through the router and I am the only one on the 12. The ones you mentioned are more busy. But I am not sure if that is the issue since I am testing the 5 GHz one

If you are on 5GHz its not the issue. But channel 12 overlaps with channel 11. Channels 1, 6 and 11 are the only channels in NL that don't overlap. Same channel (or co-channel) interference is far better than adjacent channel interference. If you are on the same channel they negotiate amongst each other who can send when. If you are on adjacent (overlapping) channel they cannot talk to each other which causes packet errors.

[ Voor 6% gewijzigd door Shinji op 01-09-2026 20:52 ]

[cucumbersome]

@Shinji I understand now. Thanks for sharing, I will make sure then to not be on the 12 and move it to one of the ones you mentioned that are less busy in the vicinity.

[SMSfreakie]

and dont forget 5 SSIDs on Channel 1 with barely any traffic is often better than 2 ssids on Channel 6 with loads and loads of traffic..

[cucumbersome]

@SMSfreakie On 2 GHz network there are no issues. I left it running the whole night and didn't get a single spike.

[Frogmen]

Did you test just 1 SSID and the channels on auto. But personally for what you want to achive in an appartment building is impossible. Putting an cable to your gaming device is easyer and more sustainable for the future. If you can get it right now a new neighbour can ruin it.

[laurens0619]

Dit maakt het wel lastig want:
- Het komt consistent voor iedere 10 minuten
- Het komt vaak voor, niet iedere 10 minuten maar zeker paar keer per uur
- Het komt niet meer voor als de iphone niet verbonden is
- Het komt wel voor als de iphone verbonden is
- Met de zyxel had je het niet, die had weer andere problemen (?)
- De 2ghz heeft 0 problemen de 5ghz veel (dat klinkt zeer onwaarschijnlijk)

Ik zou toch even wat meer energie stoppen in het troubleshooten van je probleem want dit lijkt beetje alle kanten op te gaan

[cucumbersome]

@Frogmen I did test this at the beginning before splitting SSIDs and fixing channels to a specific number and bandwitch (to avoid DFS) . I was considering to do a factory reset and try that again, using one SSID but setting a channel that is not in DFS range, but by now I reached out to Fritzxbox support and sent some logs, so I am hoping they can help figure this out.

@laurens0619 I spent lot of time and energy on this, it is quite a weird issue. I test something which seems that can be the root cause but then turns out it is not. This whole afternoon I used the wifi 5ghz connected with multiple devices, and the problem barely happened. Last night I disconnected most of them, just left my desktop with ping plotter on 5 GHz, and it happened frequently every 10min.

I am hoping the Fritzbox support can help me. I sent the logs to them and they are investigating it now.