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  • Witlof
  • Registratie: Mei 2000
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Aangezien DPC het grootste team is bij D.net dacht ik dat het wel interessant zal zijn om deze .plan hier even neer te zetten.
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Moo!

I've recently taken on answering some of the help@distributed.net mail,
specifically the topics our front-line help people have categorized as
requiring the attention of a stats dba.  (For those of you still in the
queue, thank you for your patience.)

In the course of trying to answer some of the questions, I've made some
interesting discoveries:

.  A lot of you depend on the phistory_raw page to produce additional
   stats you can't get any other way.  (For those who don't recognize the
   page names, this is the Block Submission History page which shows each
   participant's lifetime history as a histogram.)

.  Some of you use it so much, it's putting a heavy workload on both
   apache and sybase on tally.

.  Some of you don't really need the history for all time, just for a day,
   or a couple of weeks.

.  A certain @home subscriber in the northwest Chicago suburbs is
   producing somewhere around 1/7 of all website traffic on tally, primarily
   on the phistory_raw page.

I'd like to address all these problems real soon.  As a first attempt,
I've cobbled together some variations on existing pages that I hope will
solve most of these problems.  I'd like to ask you to test these out,
especially those of you who do a lot of scripting.  They're not linked
from the existing stats pages, but if they work as well as I hope, they
will be soon.

The new pages are:

http://stats.distributed.net/rc5-64/phistory30.php3?id=1
http://stats.distributed.net/rc5-64/phistory30_raw.php3?id=1

As the filename suggests, these pages return the same information but only
for the last 30 days.  You can substitute your own id for the 1 at the
end. They're only available for RC5-64 at this time.  Depending on your
feedback, I might even make the number of days a parameter.  Please submit
all comments and feedback about these pages to bugzilla,
http://www.distributed.net/bugs/

As for the participant in the Chicago area, we appreciate your enthusiasm
for stats.  We're not mad, and we're not going to cut you off or anything,
but please PLEASE drop me an e-mail me directly (bwilson@distributed.net).
We'd like very much to find a solution that gives you what you need without
producing quite so much traffic for both of us.  Hopefully, this quick
fix will serve as a reasonable alternative.

On a different note, we've recently "hired" two new guys to help with
stats.  We're planning an all-stats meeting this weekend (Aug 25, 2001)
to bring them up to speed, rebalance the workload, and set some priorities.
With that in mind, if you have any features you'd really like to see in
stats, I'd like to know about it ASAP.  Items already on our dream list
include:

.  OGR recycle/repair

.  Cross-project stats

.  Better inter-project links

.  Site redesign

.  my.distributed.net

.  Sub-teams

.  A decaying average score, so newer participants rise faster and
   inactive participants fall faster

.  Using id as the id instead of e-mail (retires become a thing of the
   past!)

.  <Fill in your idea here>

As always, thanks for all the cycles!

Er zitten dus wel wat leuke veranderingen aan tekomen maar ideeën zijn uiteraard daar ook welkom dus als je die nog hebt stuur ze even naar hem toe en maak D.net blij :D

  • RobzQ
  • Registratie: Februari 2000
  • Laatst online: 21-12-2020

RobzQ

greedy as a pig

Sub-teams :) :)

Staat al meer als een jaar op hun site maar zal het nu dan echt gebeuren ;)

..so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm..


  • Witlof
  • Registratie: Mei 2000
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Op zondag 26 augustus 2001 15:15 schreef RobzQ het volgende:
Sub-teams :) :)

Staat al meer als een jaar op hun site maar zal het nu dan echt gebeuren ;)
Laten we het hopen. Het verhaal over die retirements is ook wel positief te noemen. Geen maximaal aantal dus maar onbeperkt.

  • Chaos
  • Registratie: November 1999
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Het verhaal over die retirements is ook wel positief te noemen. Geen maximaal aantal dus maar onbeperkt.
Correctie: geen retirements meer. Alleen het numerieke ID wordt dan gebruikt om een deelnemer te identificeren en dan kun je dus je e-mailadres gewoon aanpassen. Maar het samenvoegen van 2 e-mails is dan niet meer mogelijk.

  • Witlof
  • Registratie: Mei 2000
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Maar is het dan niet zo dat je dat ID van je subteam ongeveer hetzelfde gaat gebruiken als het ID wat je nu hebt zodat je lid bent van DPC? Het is mij namelijk niet helemaal duidelijk maar dat komt omdat er ook niet uitgebreid beschreven staat.

  • Chaos
  • Registratie: November 1999
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Dat kan ook wel denk ik, maar wat DNet met subteams bedoelt is dat er bij de stats ook nog een indeling in subteams bijkomt.

  • Oezie Woezie
  • Registratie: December 1999
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Oezie Woezie

Pim. is de beste

http://stats.distributed.net/rc5-64/phistory_raw.php3?id=320262

kan ook, heb je niet alleen de laatste 30 dagen, maar alles in 1 keer

een mooi Tshirt met Pim. is de beste enzo


  • Chaos
  • Registratie: November 1999
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Dat had 'a certain @home subscriber in the northwest Chicago suburbs' ook al door Oezie, maar als je niet alles nodig hebt kun je dus beter wat minder fetchen. :)

  • Witlof
  • Registratie: Mei 2000
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Ik heb nog maar wat verduidelijking gevraagd en nu al antwoord gekregen. Echt snel dus. Zie hier het resultaat:
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We're still trying to work out the best way to support subteams.  This
feature has been a request from several of our larger teams (I think DPC
included).  The goal is to let people belong to individual small teams,
but to still count those small teams as part of the large team.  In this
way, the large teams with thousands of members can have some healthy
competition among the subteams, but still have a main team which ranks
very high overall.  This will also allow us to provide more of the stats
the larger teams are interested in, without them needing to download
large portions of our website every day.

The idea of using ID instead of e-mail address centers around the
current problems we have supporting retires.  When a person submits work
for a long time from a given e-mail address, but then loses that e-mail
address, a retire allows the work to be transferred over to their new
e-mail address.  By using ID's as the identifier for submitted work, we
can allow people to change their e-mail address without having to retire
their work, and without reconfiguring dnetc in the future.

Internally, each participant already has an id - we would just start
asking people to use their stats id instead of their e-mail.  Obviously,
we would have to continue supporting e-mail addresses as an option for a
long time, probably forever.  

However, our policy would change that we would not allow retires, since
those who use ID instead of e-mail have no need to transfer work to a
different email address - they could just change the email listed on
their record and all the work would be listed under their new address.

  • Lagune
  • Registratie: Juli 2001
  • Laatst online: 22-05 14:04

Lagune

Its time for warp

The individual graphs are a good idea. We already have one graph of
sorts, the phistory page. This is a histogram of the work each
participant did for the day, however it does fail to report days when no
work was submitted. A line graph showing the work submitted since
starting with d.net would be a very popular thing, I think.

I'll send this idea on to the rest of the stats team so we can include
it on our todo list.

  • MarcyDarcy
  • Registratie: Juni 2000
  • Laatst online: 23-05 00:26
Op zondag 26 augustus 2001 22:00 schreef babylon5 een engels verhaaltje
lol..di's nog altijd een nederlandstalig forum :+

Verwijderd

Beterz die veranderingen.

  • Roel
  • Registratie: Februari 2000
  • Laatst online: 22-05 11:30

Roel

screen -x addict

Allemaal wel leuk en aardig, maar hebben ze al iets aan ogr dupechecking gedaan ?

Resistance is futile (If < 1 Ohm)

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