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Hi everyone,

I've put together a configuration that I'm really happy with, in a case that I'm very excited about - NZXT H1.

The only thing is - it seems to be sold out everywhere. On the producer's website, and it seems on quite a few computer shops.

Do you have any advice on some other outlets where I could look? Or do you know - in this kind of situation - can I predict a timeline at all? If I need to wait a month or something, that's doable. But if it could take months, then I'll start looking into other options.

I know we live in strange times where a lot of the supply chains are broken, but just curious if anyone has had a similar situation or has some indication.

Thanks!

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Ik vermoed dat deze kast nog geleverd moet worden in Europa.
Als ik naar het prijsverloop kijk dan zijn het duidelijk erg hoge indicatie prijzen.

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Only thing I can find on the local New Zealand retailer is that it ships on the 27/07/2020.
I do not know if this means that is the same in Europe, or that we are late to the party.

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The website puts Azerty as 'official' retailer.
https://www.nzxt.com/products/h1-matte-white

https://azerty.nl/product...1-minitowermodel-mini-itx
You can give them a call, see if they got any clue when they get one.

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I called Azerty, there website states delivery 2nd half of June, they still say its accurate, so I ordered it.

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Thanks for the update! I've noticed that it changed from "Unknown" to "Pre-order" recently as well.

I've actually first ordered with Clevo Computers from Germany, since their website said they would have it on 29.05., but I've been going back and forth with them ever since as they said it arrived in Germany but was stuck in customs for a few weeks now.

In the end I cancelled that order, and ordered with Azerty instead. Azerty had all the other components I wanted and could put it together for me, so I get additional warranty on the build.

I also switched from black to white in the end. :)

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Nice, I've also ordered the white one, The ITX motherboard is already waiting :)

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Mine will be delivered today, after ordering it 2,5 months ago. (from Azerty) So they should be available from now on.

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They now raised the price to 420 Euro, wanted to order it aswell but its to much for just a pc case.

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SteffanS schreef op donderdag 18 juni 2020 @ 07:55:
They now raised the price to 420 Euro, wanted to order it aswell but its to much for just a pc case.
Just out of curiousity, what was the original pre-order price?

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Drwho1 schreef op donderdag 18 juni 2020 @ 08:24:
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Just out of curiousity, what was the original pre-order price?
340 Euro like on each other website

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Just out of curiousity, what was the original pre-order price?
I got it for 309 from Si, but ordered in March. It's arriving today.

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Seth_Chaos schreef op woensdag 17 juni 2020 @ 10:39:
Mine will be delivered today, after ordering it 2,5 months ago. (from Azerty) So they should be available from now on.
Did you get yours?

Azerty Raised the price to € 420 and told me to wait another couple of weeks on my order. I've ordered this case back in april and have been waiting ever since. Of course they're just profiting on the scharsity but this is just not what i'd expect from Azerty.

I canceled my order and skipping Azerty from now on


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Meanwhile there's still one available on their site:

Afbeeldingslocatie: https://tweakers.net/i/J93Gktt8BDAULm-yuy6-30Ws9BI=/800x/filters:strip_exif()/f/image/BNcKluS4TzzfiyJqkswg1rYG.png?f=fotoalbum_large

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Mine is in, pretty happy with the case. Fits well on my small desk.

Afbeeldingslocatie: https://i.imgur.com/KgPBIE8.jpg

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mjuuu schreef op vrijdag 19 juni 2020 @ 22:20:
[...]


Did you get yours?

Azerty Raised the price to € 420 and told me to wait another couple of weeks on my order. I've ordered this case back in april and have been waiting ever since. Of course they're just profiting on the scharsity but this is just not what i'd expect from Azerty.

I canceled my order and skipping Azerty from now on


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I received mine. I like it a lot. It's understandable Azerty is raising the price. It will take months to fill all the backorders.

It took some time to figure out that I needed to lower my pcie gen to 3, to make it work with the pcie riser.

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Seth_Chaos schreef op zaterdag 20 juni 2020 @ 20:35:
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I received mine. I like it a lot. It's understandable Azerty is raising the price. It will take months to fill all the backorders.

It took some time to figure out that I needed to lower my pcie gen to 3, to make it work with the pcie riser.
I don't understand that they raise the price... its like taking advantage of an situation.
Im wondering who would be paying 430 for an case.

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SteffanS schreef op dinsdag 23 juni 2020 @ 13:11:
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I don't understand that they raise the price... its like taking advantage of an situation.
Im wondering who would be paying 430 for an case.
Supply and demand. The demand for the product is high, the supply low. So they raise the price because people are willing to pay that price. Thats how the free market works. You don't know where that price bump comes from, in the supply chain. It could just as well mean the transport costs are higher because of Corona, or maybe Azerty made a deal to get a better supply if they pay a little extra.

Even with the new price, it's worth every penny. My pc temps are rock stable, with high end hardware in it. It has some of the best cooling i've seen in this formfactor.

Im a fanatic gamer, and I use this case so i can easily transport it from my home, to my vacation home in the weekends. And no, I don't wan't a gaming laptop. It costs twice as much for the same specs and isn't upgradable.

If I had the option between waiting for 3 months or paying 100 euro's extra to get it in one week. I would have gladly paid that 100 extra.

Getting products quick in the current circumstances isn't a given.

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Price is back to 350 euro's. Ordered beginning of June. Called them today they expect stock on the 26th of July. I think the 420 euro price is just a "bug" in the automatic pricing system the webshops use.

Also called megekko and cdromland (just found out they are the same company) and they also expect end of july. I'm thinking of ordering on Si but not having a creditcard or Paypal option doesnt sit right with me in the current times.

Si's distributor gives a date of 12 October... I think i'll leave the azerty preorder, maybe add one at cdromland.

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Greetoz schreef op woensdag 24 juni 2020 @ 16:48:
I'm thinking of ordering on Si.
That's where I got mine. During the delay, they have offered to cancel and refund me.

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That's where I got mine. During the delay, they have offered to cancel and refund me.
I don’t think they would scam me on purpose. But with these bizar times you never know what happens to companies. It’s a bit cheaper at Si but I’ll keep my preorder at azerty

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Jay-v schreef op vrijdag 19 juni 2020 @ 23:50:
Mine is in, pretty happy with the case. Fits well on my small desk.

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Can you send me the specs of your config ?

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SteffanS schreef op vrijdag 26 juni 2020 @ 13:41:
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Can you send me the specs of your config ?

Thanks
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Dont trust azerty. While you're waiting for your product theyll raise the price of the product and sell it for more and making you wait cause you paid less (eventho it was the normal price)
I dont think a company like azery is going to try and do this, especially not as its the official NZXT retailer and its just to much work for few more euro's. Most online stores have automatic pricing robots that follow their competitors. Centralpoint sells it for 420 euro's. It probably followed that price. The screenshot you sent earlier is from the black case, that one is easier to get. I will keep my azerty preorder till the end of this months. Then cancel is if they cant deliver by 28th of July like they are predicting now.

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Greetoz schreef op vrijdag 3 juli 2020 @ 09:21:
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I dont think a company like azery is going to try and do this, especially not as its the official NZXT retailer and its just to much work for few more euro's. Most online stores have automatic pricing robots that follow their competitors. Centralpoint sells it for 420 euro's. It probably followed that price. The screenshot you sent earlier is from the black case, that one is easier to get. I will keep my azerty preorder till the end of this months. Then cancel is if they cant deliver by 28th of July like they are predicting now.
Wat ook de reden is van hun handelen het is niet koosjer, heb er eentje besteld bij CDromland Breda (lees: Max ICT) en ze verschuiven de datum steeds, kan ik alsnog een maand wachten als zij uberhaupt leveren. Wees dan eerlijk en verkoop ze niet.

By the way, Centralpoint IS Azerty.

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Wat ook de reden is van hun handelen het is niet koosjer, heb er eentje besteld bij CDromland Breda (lees: Max ICT) en ze verschuiven de datum steeds, kan ik alsnog een maand wachten als zij uberhaupt leveren. Wees dan eerlijk en verkoop ze niet.

By the way, Centralpoint IS Azerty.
Denk dat ze daar weinig aan kunnen doen. Bij Si was het eerst eind Maart, toen Mei, uiteindelijk in Juni geleverd. Na contact met Si hebben ze gemeld dat dit de verwachtte datum was volgens de leverancier maar dat ze zeker niet zeker zijn of het dan ook geleverd wordt.

Je ziet in de UK en ook in de US dat deze kast slecht leverbaar is. Het is dus maar net hoe lang je wil wachten.

Bij Central point kan je trouwens een notificatie krijgen wanneer hij weer op voorraad is, kreeg netjes een mailtje van ze deze week maar toen had ik hem zelf al binnen.

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Denk dat ze daar weinig aan kunnen doen. Bij Si was het eerst eind Maart, toen Mei, uiteindelijk in Juni geleverd. Na contact met Si hebben ze gemeld dat dit de verwachtte datum was volgens de leverancier maar dat ze zeker niet zeker zijn of het dan ook geleverd wordt.

Je ziet in de UK en ook in de US dat deze kast slecht leverbaar is. Het is dus maar net hoe lang je wil wachten.

Bij Central point kan je trouwens een notificatie krijgen wanneer hij weer op voorraad is, kreeg netjes een mailtje van ze deze week maar toen had ik hem zelf al binnen.
Okay, bedankt voor de reactie. Even wat anders, hoe bevalt de kast?

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Okay, bedankt voor de reactie. Even wat anders, hoe bevalt de kast?
Zeer goed, stiller dan verwacht en de temps zijn ook goed. Heb er wel een eenvoudig usb kabeltje (30cm) aangehangen want de aansluitingen aan de onderkant kom je anders niet makkelijk bij.

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Wat ook de reden is van hun handelen het is niet koosjer, heb er eentje besteld bij CDromland Breda (lees: Max ICT) en ze verschuiven de datum steeds, kan ik alsnog een maand wachten als zij uberhaupt leveren. Wees dan eerlijk en verkoop ze niet.

By the way, Centralpoint IS Azerty.
Ze krijgen gewoon een verwachte leverdatum van hun leverancier. Als ze op die datum geen kasten binnen krijgen of niet genoeg voor alle orders dan verschuift de data naar de volgende verwachte leverdatum. Ik wacht rustig af, de leverdatum staat nu op 28 juli maar ga er vanuit dat die ook niet lukt aangezien ik pas maandje geleden heb besteld.

edit: Azerty meld mij net dat ze nog steeds 28-7 verwachten. En de verwachting is dat ze meer cases binnen krijgen dan pre-orders.

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Op voorraad bij 4Launch. Wel voor 430€, 80€ meer dan de advies prijs. Ze zeggen dat het door hun inkoop komt.. ik geloof er niks van.

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Seth_Chaos schreef op woensdag 24 juni 2020 @ 11:01:
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Supply and demand. The demand for the product is high, the supply low. So they raise the price because people are willing to pay that price. Thats how the free market works. You don't know where that price bump comes from, in the supply chain. It could just as well mean the transport costs are higher because of Corona, or maybe Azerty made a deal to get a better supply if they pay a little extra.

Even with the new price, it's worth every penny. My pc temps are rock stable, with high end hardware in it. It has some of the best cooling i've seen in this formfactor.

Im a fanatic gamer, and I use this case so i can easily transport it from my home, to my vacation home in the weekends. And no, I don't wan't a gaming laptop. It costs twice as much for the same specs and isn't upgradable.

If I had the option between waiting for 3 months or paying 100 euro's extra to get it in one week. I would have gladly paid that 100 extra.

Getting products quick in the current circumstances isn't a given.
Nice! What components do you have?
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Ze krijgen gewoon een verwachte leverdatum van hun leverancier. Als ze op die datum geen kasten binnen krijgen of niet genoeg voor alle orders dan verschuift de data naar de volgende verwachte leverdatum. Ik wacht rustig af, de leverdatum staat nu op 28 juli maar ga er vanuit dat die ook niet lukt aangezien ik pas maandje geleden heb besteld.

edit: Azerty meld mij net dat ze nog steeds 28-7 verwachten. En de verwachting is dat ze meer cases binnen krijgen dan pre-orders.
I am still waiting for it as well. I received the 28-7 email too a while ago. Did you receive another confirmation from them when you wrote this, or did you reach out to them? I haven't received any confirmation recently.

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fskobic schreef op maandag 20 juli 2020 @ 19:19:
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Nice! What components do you have?


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I am still waiting for it as well. I received the 28-7 email too a while ago. Did you receive another confirmation from them when you wrote this, or did you reach out to them? I haven't received any confirmation recently.
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GIGABYTE X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI
AMD 3900X
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2x 970 pro m2 ssd's
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Thanks for sharing! :)

Where did you put the extra fans?

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Thanks for sharing! :)

Where did you put the extra fans?
This one perhaps? https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4507003

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Ze krijgen gewoon een verwachte leverdatum van hun leverancier. Als ze op die datum geen kasten binnen krijgen of niet genoeg voor alle orders dan verschuift de data naar de volgende verwachte leverdatum. Ik wacht rustig af, de leverdatum staat nu op 28 juli maar ga er vanuit dat die ook niet lukt aangezien ik pas maandje geleden heb besteld.

edit: Azerty meld mij net dat ze nog steeds 28-7 verwachten. En de verwachting is dat ze meer cases binnen krijgen dan pre-orders.
Is yours on the way? I contacted them this week as it was expected 28-7 (I ordered on 12-6), and they replied today with this:
We have requested the delivery time from our supplier and have just received a response.

He has indicated that the NZXT H1 - Minitowermodel unfortunately has an unknown delivery time at the moment.

Since we understand that this may take a long time, we looked for a suitable alternative. However, we have concluded that there is no immediately available alternative to this. You can also specify a (different) alternative yourself, so that we can adjust your order. Please take into account the possible price difference that we will communicate with you after the adjustment.

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Is yours on the way? I contacted them this week as it was expected 28-7 (I ordered on 12-6), and they replied today with this:


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I got the same email so no its not on the way... I've put in a second order at CDROM land (same shop as Megekko). They still say they are getting stock tomorrow. Give them an email to see if they can deliver it.

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I got the same email so no its not on the way... I've put in a second order at CDROM land (same shop as Megekko). They still say they are getting stock tomorrow. Give them an email to see if they can deliver it.

Let us know.
Any luck? :)

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New date from Azerty 3-10-2020... I think I’m going to cancel and wait for normal availability.

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New date from Azerty 3-10-2020... I think I’m going to cancel and wait for normal availability.
I got that too :/ I really hope that's the final one. I don't want to cancel just yet, as I hope that my "pre-order" gives me at least some priority over later orders. But I will be checking other outlets. Please let me know if you manage to get it from somewhere else. :)

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I got that too :/ I really hope that's the final one. I don't want to cancel just yet, as I hope that my "pre-order" gives me at least some priority over later orders. But I will be checking other outlets. Please let me know if you manage to get it from somewhere else. :)
I have two pre orders, one with azerty and one with Cdromland. Cdromland still says 30th of august but I think they just adjust there date a lot later. If they don’t deliver then I will cancel one of the pre orders (not sure which one yet)

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I gave up on the NZXT H1 a few months ago when finding out the major stock would only be arriving in September somewhere.
Now they only have some sporadic drops in some stores.

I still really like the case though...

I went with a different ITX case. With the pandemic, I had too much time on my hands and really wanted to start gaming seriously again.

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I gave up on the NZXT H1 a few months ago when finding out the major stock would only be arriving in September somewhere.
Now they only have some sporadic drops in some stores.

I still really like the case though...

I went with a different ITX case. With the pandemic, I had too much time on my hands and really wanted to start gaming seriously again.
Yeah, it would have been great to game more during the lockdown. That's what finally got me to get a new computer, but I found the H1 so beautiful that it's worth the wait. For now I'm fixing my computer from 2012 to be able to run some of the games I play that are not too demanding.

There will be more lockdown time in the winter, hope I have my H1 by then.

What other ITX case did you go with?

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Optimum Tech has great videos on ITX cases.

I watched some of his 'best cases videos'.

I liked the vertical tower type, so I looked into the Phanteks evolv shift air.
This was less expensive than the other options as well, but the air version is also really badly available.

They had it at overlockers in the UK, but since they work with caseking now, they no longer ship to the mainland.

I shortly looked into the NZXT H210, but I wanted a smaller case.

I was then looking into the Dan a4 and the Streacom DA2.

I liked both of them, but they were a bit pricier than I intended to spend on my case.

Ended going for the Streacom DA2 because I prefer having dust filters, with my long haired dog who creates a lot of dust and also hair.

I really like the DA2. They have new top and bottom panels that you can order that give more clearance but it will cost you an additional 50 euro. I just ordered those so I can add an additional fan and give my GPU a bit more air.
All temps are fine though. 75°C during extended gaming for my MSI 2060 Super.

I will write up a review for the DA2 if I have the time and motivation.

Due to having to pay for the improvements and it being larger than the dan A4.
If I did not have that much dust, I would go for the Dan A4 I think now.
It's like really tiny :D

Also: https://be.hardware.info/...rmaat-maximale-prestaties

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DaemonAngel schreef op vrijdag 21 augustus 2020 @ 12:51:
Optimum Tech has great videos on ITX cases.

I watched some of his 'best cases videos'.

I liked the vertical tower type, so I looked into the Phanteks evolv shift air.
This was less expensive than the other options as well, but the air version is also really badly available.

They had it at overlockers in the UK, but since they work with caseking now, they no longer ship to the mainland.

I shortly looked into the NZXT H210, but I wanted a smaller case.

I was then looking into the Dan a4 and the Streacom DA2.

I liked both of them, but they were a bit pricier than I intended to spend on my case.

Ended going for the Streacom DA2 because I prefer having dust filters, with my long haired dog who creates a lot of dust and also hair.

I really like the DA2. They have new top and bottom panels that you can order that give more clearance but it will cost you an additional 50 euro. I just ordered those so I can add an additional fan and give my GPU a bit more air.
All temps are fine though. 75°C during extended gaming for my MSI 2060 Super.

I will write up a review for the DA2 if I have the time and motivation.

Due to having to pay for the improvements and it being larger than the dan A4.
If I did not have that much dust, I would go for the Dan A4 I think now.
It's like really tiny :D

Also: https://be.hardware.info/...rmaat-maximale-prestaties
I've seen a lot of Optimum Tech videos as well when I found out about NZXT cases, also saw their reviews of the H1 and similar ITX cases, really useful!

Thanks for the info! The DA2 is really nice as well, good choice!

Personally, I'm really hooked on the H1. I'm still on my mid-range PC from 2012. I've waited plenty already, and I can wait a bit longer to get it. I just hope it arrives before winter hits. :)

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Yeah, for me it was a bit different.
(I will give you my life story now xD xD)

TL:DR: I didn't used to have the space for a desktop, nor the time to use it. Now I have a separate office and also, thanks to covid, time to game again.

In my previous apartment, I didn't have the room for a separate desk. So working was on my work laptop and I had a macbook for a while, but it could run what I played, which was LoL during those years. Some Starcraft etc.
I quit playing LoL, it was bringing me more frustration than joy, I really had no time for it actually.
Jump a bit where I bought a tiny desk where I could have a separate screen for work. Still laptops. Some Starcraft and now CS:Go, back to my fps roots.

In my new apartment now, I have a separate office. The place for a desktop computer, but still no time.
Introducing covid :D, I suddenly had time, so I didn't want to wait months on end.
I waited 2 after making the decision of getting a gaming computer, but wasn't planning on waiting more. I had binged about every show on netflix already.

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Sicomputers has stock now. Ordered there.

Called Azerty to cancel my order there, they also have stock now, but still cancelled as I ordered at Si.

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Ah, great, thanks a lot for the update! Azerty only has it in black, but Si has it in white as well. I'll probably change my order as well. :)

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I bought it yesterday at tones.be.. had it delivered today!! very happy I got one at last.

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Good to hear! :) Enjoy it!

I ordered with SiComputers this morning and wanted to cancel my order with Azerty (as now it was "expected" on 3 October, after the expected deliveries on 19 June and 28 July didn't happen), but Azerty replied that my PC with all the parts is being built just now.

I find that strange, maybe they indeed were not completely honest about their supplies, and were first serving customers that wanted to cancel their orders, while letting the others wait.

I'm checking expected delivery times for both now, but my new order with SiComputers is cheaper now, as some of the parts had price reductions in the last few months since I placed my first order.

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fskobic schreef op donderdag 3 september 2020 @ 19:53:
Good to hear! :) Enjoy it!

I ordered with SiComputers this morning and wanted to cancel my order with Azerty (as now it was "expected" on 3 October, after the expected deliveries on 19 June and 28 July didn't happen), but Azerty replied that my PC with all the parts is being built just now.

I find that strange, maybe they indeed were not completely honest about their supplies, and were first serving customers that wanted to cancel their orders, while letting the others wait.

I'm checking expected delivery times for both now, but my new order with SiComputers is cheaper now, as some of the parts had price reductions in the last few months since I placed my first order.
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