Future-proof setup for gaming, & 4K content: €1.000 - €1.250

[fskobic]

Hi,
I’m looking to get some advice to buy a new desktop PC. I've heard very good things about Tweakers on the Expat Republic Amsterdam FB group, so I am hoping you could help with suggesting some options for me.

I currently have a computer I put together in 2012, and in the meantime I just upgraded from a HDD to two SSDs, which gave new life to my PC! It still runs the games I play, although it gets noticeably laggy and takes long to load, so it’s definitely time to start fresh.

Wat wil je doen met je nieuwe systeem?
Watching 4K content: I have a 4K screen, but my current PC doesn't support it.
Playing games (in 1080p): Currently: Cities: Skylines, Foundation, Train Simulator - not too demanding, but I want a setup that'll be able to smoothly run a bit more demanding games in the future like GTA V and RDR2.
A lot of Google Earth in the browser, and very little video & photo editing.

Wat mag het systeem gaan kosten?
Ideally around € 1.000, but if it's a great deal, I'd be willing to go up to max € 1.250 or so.

Zijn er componenten of randapparatuur die je al hebt en mee wil nemen naar je nieuwe systeem?
I already have an extra 1TB internal SSD (Samsung 860 EVO) that I recently bought and would like to reuse in this setup, but it's ok if it already has another SSD included. I prefer not to have HDDs.

Wat denk je allemaal nodig te hebben?
I would like to have a motherboard that has USB-C ports. I already have several USB-C devices, and will likely have more in the future, so I'd like it to be future-proof.

Heb je nog bepaalde (merk)voorkeuren?
I have a slight preference towards Intel for CPU and Nvidia for GPU, but I'm completely open to considering AMD as well.

Heb je nog bepaalde eisen/wensen?
Plain black case, ideally matte, not shiny. Ok with a glass side panel, but not necessary. Not into LEDs. Currently have a mid tower, but it's mostly empty. I don't have a need for any DVD ROM or anything like that, so that's some wasted space in my current setup. So the housing should ideally be as small as possible.

Ga je overklokken?
Not likely.

Wat verwacht je van ons?[i]
I’m not looking for top-of-the-line, but I do want to get something fast and relatively future-proof. Hopefully you can help me with some suggestions! Also, does Tweakers build custom configurations? Does it cost extra?

Thanks in advance for your help! If you have any questions, please let me know!

Cheers,
Filip

[SuperToine123]

In your price range going for AMD for CPU is a no-brainer. Intel doesn't offer anything close to the value of the Ryzen 5 3600 at the moment. Also with Ryzen, you don't need an aftermarket cooler, the included cooler is more than enough for stock speeds.

The MSI B450M Mortar MAX is currently the cheapest motherboard that has Type-C connectivity and supports Ryzen 3xxx out of the box.

Since you don't care about LED's the Crucial Ballistix 16GB 3200 MHz CL16 Kit will be plenty fast and enough RAM for modern games. Upgrading this later down the lane is easy if needed.

The case is very personal but the NZXT H510 Black is matte black, very minimalistic, and has a side panel.

For PSU I would go with the Cooler Master MWE Gold 550W, it is fully modular and has an efficiency rating of 80+ Gold. 550W will be enough for your current system.

For your SSD, I would keep using the 860 EVO unless you need more storage, then I would add a 1TB Crucial P1 Nvme Drive. If you don't need extra storage you can remove this and save €110

For your GPU I would go with a 5700XT, it offers more Frames per €€ than any other GPU in this price range. The MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT MECH OC should be a nice fit. Alternatively, for around the same performance, an RTX 2070 Super can be a good choice. I would recommend it since an RTX 2070 Super costs €150 for a 3-6% boost in performance, totally not worth it.

This is the Result:

#	Category	Product	Prijs	Subtotaal
1	Processors	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Boxed	€ 175,-	€ 175,-
1	Moederborden	MSI B450M Mortar Max	€ 102,25	€ 102,25
1	Videokaarten	MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT MECH OC	€ 413,05	€ 413,05
1	Behuizingen	NZXT H510 Zwart	€ 73,89	€ 73,89
1	Geheugen intern	Crucial Ballistix BL2K8G32C16U4B	€ 81,24	€ 81,24
1	Voedingen	Cooler Master MWE Gold 550 Full Modular	€ 71,15	€ 71,15
1	Solid state drives	Crucial P1 1TB	€ 112,91	€ 112,91
Bekijk collectie Importeer producten			Totaal	€ 1.029,49

Without the SSD it would cost approximately €930. If you do want to increase your budget to €1250 you don't need to change anything besides the GPU, I would replace the 5700XT with an RTX 2080 Super

Hope this helps!

[fskobic]

Thanks a lot for the advice, it really helps!

I was told that this GPU is quite loud, which is not ideal, so I'd rather go for the RTX 2070 Super or even 2080 Super. Do you think the 2080 is worth the money?

The case actually looks amazing! I really like the minimalist design. I might want to look for some smaller options - what should I look out for except motherboard size and graphics card size? And is there an easy way to filter out the cases that fit my other components?

Thanks in advance!

[Canelo]

It's not loud, i got the same gpu but from Powercolor and it does not make any noise for me. Going for the 2070/2080 Super is just wasting more money for a very little performance, last time i saw the 5700XT was as fast as the 2070s after a new driver update.

[fskobic]

Thanks a lot for the help. I've been researching a bit and looking at combinations, and came up with this:

#	Category	Product	Prijs	Subtotaal
1	Processors	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Boxed	€ 169,-	€ 169,-
1	Moederborden	MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX	€ 119,79	€ 119,79
1	Videokaarten	Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT Gaming OC 8G	€ 435,05	€ 435,05
1	Behuizingen	NZXT H510 Zwart/Rood	€ 79,90	€ 79,90
1	Processorkoeling	Arctic Freezer 34 eSports DUO (Zwart / Rood)	€ 38,70	€ 38,70
1	Geheugen intern	Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2B3200C16	€ 75,14	€ 75,14
1	Voedingen	Corsair RM650 (2019)	€ 99,90	€ 99,90
1	Solid state drives	Crucial P1 1TB	€ 111,93	€ 111,93
Bekijk collectie Importeer producten			Totaal	€ 1.129,41

I have two more combinations in my wishlist, but the only have a different motherboard (ASRock).

What do you think?

[bluebear]

How small do you want the case to be?
mid-towers, or would you be looking at m-itx and sff cases?

Personally I've been looking at getting something as small ass possible, and don't like that most sff cases are still quite deep. I like the vertical cases, which pointed me towards the HG Osmi or the NZXT H1. Might be worth checking out for you if you want to go small, yet still stylish.

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[thomas_n]

Poor availability seems to have driven up the price of that Arctic Freezer CPU-cooler a bit. Your Ryzen 5 doesn't get that hot, so you could go for something like https://tweakers.net/pric...uillo-rev4-version-b.html, or for something that looks a bit better and is a bit easier to install https://tweakers.net/pric...er-212-black-edition.html. If you use the money you save compared to that Arctic Freezer to buy an extra case fan, you'll get a cooler running system overall, because your GPU is by far the hottest part of your build.

I've heard people advice against Corsair memory on recent Ryzen builds, because of some stability issues. Although I have no experience with it myself, maybe try a different RAM set.


Edit: one more thing to consider is that your current motherboard does not have a USB 3.2 gen 2 header, while your case does have a front (or top, in this case) port that could be connected to such a header for very high speed USB devices. Nota huge thing, but could be a slight disappointment.

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[fskobic]

bluebear schreef op zaterdag 9 mei 2020 @ 12:18:
How small do you want the case to be?
mid-towers, or would you be looking at m-itx and sff cases?

Personally I've been looking at getting something as small ass possible, and don't like that most sff cases are still quite deep. I like the vertical cases, which pointed me towards the HG Osmi or the NZXT H1. Might be worth checking out for you if you want to go small, yet still stylish.

Oh wow, NZXT H1 looks amazing! Thanks for pointing this out, I was completely unaware of these vertical cases. I checked out some reviews, and it seems to be a really good option, although they did say that the ventilation for the GPU is not ideal, since it blows into the front glass panel, and then has to circulate round back again.

I'm really a fan of NZXT cases, and I would love to go for a smaller case. What other smaller cases would you recommend that would fit my current build, or what would I need to replace to fit it into a smaller case? Thanks!

[fskobic]

thomas_n schreef op zaterdag 9 mei 2020 @ 12:22:
Poor availability seems to have driven up the price of that Arctic Freezer CPU-cooler a bit. Your Ryzen 5 doesn't get that hot, so you could go for something like https://tweakers.net/pric...uillo-rev4-version-b.html, or for something that looks a bit better and is a bit easier to install https://tweakers.net/pric...er-212-black-edition.html. If you use the money you save compared to that Arctic Freezer to buy an extra case fan, you'll get a cooler running system overall, because your GPU is by far the hottest part of your build.

I've heard people advice against Corsair memory on recent Ryzen builds, because of some stability issues. Although I have no experience with it myself, maybe try a different RAM set.


Edit: one more thing to consider is that your current motherboard does not have a USB 3.2 gen 2 header, while your case does have a front (or top, in this case) port that could be connected to such a header for very high speed USB devices. Nota huge thing, but could be a slight disappointment.

Thanks for the advice! I'll look into an option of getting an extra case fan, and I'll check out other RAM sets.

Good that you pointed out the USB header issue. I've been wondering about those as well, and I can't figure out where it's visible which ones are on the back, and which ones can be connected to the case port/header. How can I tell, except looking at the back plate, and figuring out what's not visible there?

[michaelw1998]

I read some recommendations above about motherboards from the 4xx series. If you really want to be future-proof I'd recommend to get a motherboard from the 5xx series, as the new AMD CPUs coming at the end of this year will probably not be supported on the 4xx series (at least that's what the current news is).

https://www.guru3d.com/ne...b550not-400-or-lower.html

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[bluebear]

fskobic schreef op zaterdag 9 mei 2020 @ 13:06:
[...]


Oh wow, NZXT H1 looks amazing! Thanks for pointing this out, I was completely unaware of these vertical cases. I checked out some reviews, and it seems to be a really good option, although they did say that the ventilation for the GPU is not ideal, since it blows into the front glass panel, and then has to circulate round back again.

I'm really a fan of NZXT cases, and I would love to go for a smaller case. What other smaller cases would you recommend that would fit my current build, or what would I need to replace to fit it into a smaller case? Thanks!

main change would be to use a m-itx mainbord. The rest is pretty much the same.
However, depending on what case you go for, it pays to really double-check the dimensions, to ensure everything fits.

As for ventilation, it is always a bit of a downside for these small cases, as compromises have to be made. However, the reviews I've seen of the H1 (in particular) is that it has been very well thought out and I don't think the slightly higher temps for the gpu are gonna be detrimental.

Another to look at: Phanteks Evolv Shift x (bigger than the H1 and the Osmi though)

[fskobic]

Thanks for the advice!

I've put together this one. The case has no price, but I've seen it go for 349 in a few shops in NL.

Everything should fit theoretically. The GPU dimensions are L=279.85 W=114.35 H=49.55 mm.

The case dimensions:

GPU Clearance:
Dimension - 305mm x 128mm; 265mm x 145mm
Thickness - Up to 2.5 Slots
Memory Height: 45mm

So L and W should be fine, I'm just curious about the thickness. I've heard my GPU is around 2.7 slots.

#	Category	Product	Prijs	Subtotaal
1	Processors	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Boxed	€ 169,-	€ 169,-
1	Moederborden	Gigabyte Aorus X570 I PRO WIFI	€ 244,04	€ 244,04
1	Videokaarten	Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT Gaming OC 8G	€ 435,05	€ 435,05
1	Behuizingen	NZXT H1 Zwart	€ 0,-	€ 0,-
1	Geheugen intern	Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2B3200C16	€ 75,14	€ 75,14
1	Solid state drives	Crucial P1 1TB	€ 111,93	€ 111,93
Bekijk collectie Importeer producten			Totaal	€ 1.035,16

What do you think?

[bluebear]

What I could find is that:

The NZXT H1 PC case will fit AMD and NVIDIA GPUs of up to 305 mm in length and 128 mm for width.

They even name the Gigabyte 5700 XT OC by name.

That's looking pretty good in my opinion!

[Thomg]

pricewatch: Crucial Ballistix BL2K8G32C16U4B

Is there a reason for that motherboard? By getting a cheaper one you can fit a 3700X (or just save quite some money). I don't like spending an additional 120E just to get "guaranteed" Ryzen 4000 support. In case your B450 truly won't work with 4000 just sell it together and get yourself a B550 board (or then equivalent).

[PEBKAC]

I wouldn't go with the Gigabyte 5700 XT, this card had some issues in the past not all related to drivers, but also bad design (read the reviews).

It is I think a safer to go for the Sapphire Nitro or PowerColor Red Devil, but these are also the more expensive models

maybe @DaniëlWW2 can recommend a good bang for the buck 5700 XT card

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[fskobic]

Thomg schreef op zaterdag 9 mei 2020 @ 23:36:
pricewatch: Crucial Ballistix BL2K8G32C16U4B

Is there a reason for that motherboard? By getting a cheaper one you can fit a 3700X (or just save quite some money). I don't like spending an additional 120E just to get "guaranteed" Ryzen 4000 support. In case your B450 truly won't work with 4000 just sell it together and get yourself a B550 board (or then equivalent).

True... I'm thinking about making the switch.

PEBKAC schreef op zondag 10 mei 2020 @ 09:38:
I wouldn't go with the Gigabyte 5700 XT, this card had some issues in the past not all related to drivers, but also bad design (read the reviews).

It is I think a safer to go for the Sapphire Nitro or PowerColor Red Devil, but these are also the more expensive models

maybe @DaniëlWW2 can recommend a good bang for the buck 5700 XT card

Thanks a lot for the tip! I've read a bit more about the Gigabyte 5700 XT and it seems a lot of people had issues, especially if they didn't tweak a lot of the settings, which I'm not a pro with.

I was looking at Powercolor Red Devil RX 5700 XT and Powercolor Red Dragon Radeon RX 5700 XT. They both seem really nice, but they're 300mm x 132mm and 240mm x 132mm, and on the NZXT H1 specs it says the clearance for a GPU is 305 x 128, so they seem a bit wider than the clearance. I'm not sure how much of a problem that would be, since it's not a huge difference and it doesn't seem that tight in the case.

Also looking at ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT Phantom Gaming D 8G OC, seems to check all the boxes, but I really don't like the flashy look with the middle fan, especially in a see-through case like the H1.

I've been trying to filter out based on dimensions, but I'm not sure what my best option is. I started looking at more expensive options like the RTX 2070S. I've noticed those have PCI-e 3.0 x16 compared to the PCI-e 4.0 x16. How much of a difference does that make? I don't want to buy something a lot more expensive where I cannot make the full use of its capabilities due to other parts not supporting it.

I'm leaning towards GPUs with three fans instead of two, since it seems it might be a bit quieter since it has more fans pushing the heat out. Is that the right logic, or am I just fooling myself?

Either way - I fell in love with the H1 case, but I kinda had to start over with everything else

Do you have a suggestion for a GPU that fits and looks simple, black or white?

[Thomg]

fskobic schreef op zondag 10 mei 2020 @ 13:12:
I've been trying to filter out based on dimensions, but I'm not sure what my best option is. I started looking at more expensive options like the RTX 2070S. I've noticed those have PCI-e 3.0 x16 compared to the PCI-e 4.0 x16. How much of a difference does that make? I don't want to buy something a lot more expensive where I cannot make the full use of its capabilities due to other parts not supporting it.

Does not matter at all whatsoever. Furthermore you can and should not use PCI-E Gen 4 for the GPU as risers are incompatible.

fskobic schreef op zondag 10 mei 2020 @ 13:12:
I'm leaning towards GPUs with three fans instead of two, since it seems it might be a bit quieter since it has more fans pushing the heat out. Is that the right logic, or am I just fooling myself?

Typically the larger the card (and sink) the better, else the MSI Gaming cards would always be worse than the gigabyte cards, for example.

fskobic schreef op zondag 10 mei 2020 @ 13:12:
I was looking at Powercolor Red Devil RX 5700 XT and Powercolor Red Dragon Radeon RX 5700 XT. They both seem really nice, but they're 300mm x 132mm and 240mm x 132mm, and on the NZXT H1 specs it says the clearance for a GPU is 305 x 128, so they seem a bit wider than the clearance. I'm not sure how much of a problem that would be, since it's not a huge difference and it doesn't seem that tight in the case.

Kyle managed to barely fit a 2080Ti strix in his H1.
YouTube: It was going so well until this happened (overkill H1 build)
So if you check the card
pricewatch: Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti OC
These are your absolute maximums
Lengte 304,7mm
Breedte 130,4mm
Hoogte 54,1mm

Edit: Apparently there is a good reason for the 2 different restrictions.

There are 2 because the taller GPU needs to be thinner so it won't hit the power button assembly

So the pulse would work fine.
pricewatch: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Pulse

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[Immanent Ike]

Spending more on your mobo than on your cpu doesn't make sense in my eyes. You lasted 8 years with your current setup. Why do you think you will need another update in the next generation?

I also wonder why you think you need such an expensive gpu while only playing games in 1080p? If you're planning on buying a 1440p screen later on or if you currently have a monitor with a high refresh rate than it's fine, otherwise I would reconsider and buy something cheaper.

[fskobic]

Immanent Ike schreef op zondag 10 mei 2020 @ 16:06:
Spending more on your mobo than on your cpu doesn't make sense in my eyes. You lasted 8 years with your current setup. Why do you think you will need another update in the next generation?

I also wonder why you think you need such an expensive gpu while only playing games in 1080p? If you're planning on buying a 1440p screen later on or if you currently have a monitor with a high refresh rate than it's fine, otherwise I would reconsider and buy something cheaper.

Thanks for the input! I actually am looking at better CPUs. Which one would you recommend is good bang for the buck, or an reasonable upgrade from R5 3500? I've learned a lot in the last few weeks of looking into it, but I'm still a rookie, shooting in the dark. The mobo is still up for debate, but it depends on several factors.

Well my current setup has been quite limited by my much smaller budgets and the fact that I was a student till a few years ago. Last few years I was still much more frugal, and I actually gave up on trying to play some more demanding games because they were laggy. Now I've reached a point where I cannot even start a game that I wanna try out, and it kinda made me finally shop for a new configuration. I would prefer to get something solid that I don't have to replace in the coming few years.

I already have a 4K screen actually, and I would like to get the most out of the performance. I'm not planning to game at 4K with crazy refresh rates, but I will play some demanding games which I would like to be crispy and smooth.

[PEBKAC]

fskobic schreef op zondag 10 mei 2020 @ 17:37:
[...]

I already have a 4K screen actually, and I would like to get the most out of the performance. I'm not planning to game at 4K with crazy refresh rates, but I will play some demanding games which I would like to be crispy and smooth.

If you really want to game at 4K smoothly you need something like an RTX 2080 Super, or Ti. With an 5700XT it is possible, but they are more aiming at 1440P gaming.

maybe it is better to wait until NVIDIA release there new GPU's around september (rumored). So you can get a much better deal for the same price

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[fskobic]

PEBKAC schreef op zondag 10 mei 2020 @ 18:49:
[...]


If you really want to game at 4K smoothly you need something like an RTX 2080 Super, or Ti. With an 5700XT it is possible, but they are more aiming at 1440P gaming.

maybe it is better to wait until NVIDIA release there new GPU's around september (rumored). So you can get a much better deal for the same price

No, like I said, I don't aim to game at 4K, but I do want really good 1440p performance.

4K will be mostly for video content which doesn't require as much power, of course.

Thanks for sharing the tip, though!

[fskobic]

Ok, I think I have a final one. I was a bit limited by the size and clearance, but I hope I managed to find good options for all.

#	Category	Product	Prijs	Subtotaal
1	Processors	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Boxed	€ 298,45	€ 298,45
1	Moederborden	ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac	€ 109,95	€ 109,95
1	Videokaarten	Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Pulse	€ 444,05	€ 444,05
1	Behuizingen	NZXT H1 Zwart	€ 0,-	€ 0,-
1	Geheugen intern	Crucial Ballistix BL2K8G32C16U4B	€ 78,29	€ 78,29
1	Solid state drives	Crucial P1 1TB	€ 111,93	€ 111,93
Bekijk collectie Importeer producten			Totaal	€ 1.042,67

[fskobic]

Hi all,

I'm still waiting on my NZXT H1 case, pre-ordered with Azerty and expected end of this month.

Originally I've ordered an X570 mobo, but now I see that the B550 mobos got out. Is it worth it to change to that?

These are the ones I'm looking at (compared to the X570 that I've ordered).

My current order:

#	Category	Product	Prijs	Subtotaal
1	Processors	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X (BOX) Boxed	€ 295,05	€ 295,05
1	Moederborden	Gigabyte Aorus X570 I PRO WIFI	€ 229,71	€ 229,71
1	Videokaarten	Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT Gaming OC 8G	€ 408,-	€ 408,-
1	Behuizingen	NZXT H1 Wit/Zwart	€ 349,95	€ 349,95
1	Geheugen intern	Crucial Ballistix BL2K8G32C16U4B	€ 78,13	€ 78,13
1	Solid state drives	Samsung 970 EVO 1TB	€ 177,89	€ 177,89
Bekijk collectie Importeer producten			Totaal	€ 1.538,73

[Djarune]

There is no need to get a X570 board anymore. I suggest you you pick one of the following four:

https://tweakers.net/pric...;1571616;1571606;1562986/

[fskobic]

Hi all,

I've had a bit of a roller coaster with this one. I've been chasing the NZXT H1 case since May, pre-ordered with Azerty in June, it arrived finally in September. I'm really happy with the H1 case (thanks to @thomas_n for pointing it out!).

Unfortunately, the PC that Azerty built for me didn't work properly. I was having big issues with installing drivers, I would get black or green flashes on my screen, movies would glitch or freeze heavily, websites would refresh, games would freeze or crash, and the computer would restart at random points. Also, installing the Radeon Adrenaline program would make my PC unusable as it would turn the screen black and I would only get a glimpse of the display for a second every minute or so - only way out was to reinstall Windows from scratch.

I sent it back to Azerty for a fix, and after two weeks, they replaced the GPU and CPU as, according to them, "the GPU and CPU were defective, which is very rare, and this was causing all the problems". They said they tested the system again, and sent it back. I've received it back yesterday and couldn't wait to start using it.

Sadly, the issues are still here. Very similar stuff - movies freeze, games crash, websites freeze, and I get a black flash on the screen every now and then. Even had a few random restarts.

I've heard from a few people that Radeon GPUs often have issues with drivers. I'm curious if I've made a mistake going with this one, or if there's another issue with my build (I did have size limitations on which GPUs fit in this case, which is why I went with this one in the end). The PCPartPicker website didn't indicate any compatibility issues, but I don't know what would be causing such major issues.

Does anyone have any idea why these issues would be occurring? Just FYI, I've tried it with two different HDMI cables on two different screens, so it's not a connectivity issue. Any advice would help (although I'm pretty sure that sending it back to Azerty is inevitable).

Thanks in advance,
Filip

#	Category	Product	Prijs	Subtotaal
1	Processors	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X (BOX) Boxed	€ 299,50	€ 299,50
1	Moederborden	ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ax	€ 204,67	€ 204,67
1	Videokaarten	Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT Gaming OC 8G	€ 395,05	€ 395,05
1	Behuizingen	NZXT H1 Wit/Zwart	€ 345,95	€ 345,95
1	Geheugen intern	Crucial Ballistix BL2K8G32C16U4B	€ 67,70	€ 67,70
1	Solid state drives	Samsung 970 EVO 1TB	€ 124,90	€ 124,90
Bekijk collectie Importeer producten			Totaal	€ 1.437,77

[fskobic]

Hey everyone, after a roller coaster with sending the PC back the SECOND time to Azerty, and them realizing that there are issues again with both the riser cable and with the GPU connector, they replaced the case (along with the riser cable) and are suggesting I go for an Nvidia GPU instead of the Radeon.

Of course, for Nvidia, the 2000 series is going out, so they're suggesting I go for the 3070.

Models we advise:
https://azerty.nl/product...-oc-videokaart-8-gb-gddr6
https://azerty.nl/product...-8g-videokaart-8-gb-gddr6
https://azerty.nl/product...-oc-videokaart-8-gb-gddr6

As far as compatibility I would advise the Ventus OC model, which has very good cooling capacity and will run fairly quiet with the 2 big fans instead of the three little fans you currently have on your GPU."

For easier comparison, here is a Tweakers comparison link.

What do you think? I am not at all familiar with the 3000 series, haven't been following the launches. Do you have a suggestion? Also, is it true that two larger fans are quieter than three smaller ones? I've heard conflicting stories

They're all a bit tight with the width (NZXT suggests up to 2.5 slot, or 50mm, but these are either 51.7 or 52mm), but from what I've seen on YouTube, it should be manageable. The Asus DUAL seems to be 2mm longer than suggested, but that should not be an issue I think.

Thanks in advance for any input!