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  • Super_Grover
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Als ik winamp heb staan en de muziek komt van een cd af of van de hd, en ik scroll met de muis en bijvoorbeeld in word / internet, dan hoor ik rare geluiden. Die beginnen als scroll en dus ook stoppen als ik scroll, een zeer robot achtig kraak geluidje.......

De muis die ik gebruik is een logitech optical via ps/2
Nu is deze pc ook wel niet meer de nieuwste:
p100, 40mb geheugen, 4mb 3d videokaart, 1,1gb hd / 850mb hd, 32 speed cd-rom maar voor wat kleine dingen nog prima genoeg.

  • wildhagen
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Blablabla

Al de nieuwste audio- en mouse-drivers gerinstalleerd? En ik neem aan dat je Win95 draait? (gezien de specs van de PC)

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  • Super_Grover
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Ik draai win98se zonder enig probleem,
ik heb wel vaker dat opeens tijdens het opstarten hij vashangt, registerfoutmelding, zet hij het oude register terug en dan is hij alle hardware kwijt, dus kan ik alles opnieuw installeren, muis, toetsenbord, dus.....kan zijn dat ik nu nog niet de originele drivers heb

  • KroeT
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Yupz, is OF een geheugenprobleem (te weinig), OF een processorprobleem (te traag). Ik had een P200 met 32 MB, als ik scrollde (met wieltje of bar) ging winamp raar doen. Ging kraken, en trager lopen of zo. Toen ik had geupgrade naar een Celly 400 met 96 MB had ik nergens last meer van.

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idd geheugen probleem.
Als je hardeschijf ook helemaal vol zit zou ik eens proberen die wat leger te maken. Dat wil soms ook wel helpen.

suc6

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Dit is al een heel oud probleem, oornamelijk met s3 en oudere Matrox kaarten.

Uit de winamp faq:

Why does Winamp skip when I scroll a window down in Netscape or Word, even though I have a P2-400?

Your video card is taking bus bandwidth from your soundcard, there is nothing that Winamp can do or could do.

En de oplossing:WARNING: Long post ahead! updated 11/11/97

In the past this information has been suppressed, now it can be told...

A good number of VGA card manufacturers are squeezing out a few extra
points on their winbench scores by locking up the PCI bus. This is fine
for graphics and most systems on the PC (hard disks and such) don't even
notice the problem.... Unfortunately this can hurt the audio system in
a big way.
Most audio cards use ISA/DMA to trickle samples over the bus one word
at a time. Even PCI cards such as the AMIII can be hurt by this problem
because they trickle the data over the bus in tiny PCI transfers. When
another device illegally locks up the bus for more than 1/88200th of a
second, there's a good chance you will lose audio samples resulting an a
glitch in the recording or playback.
How do you know if you're having this problem? Try opening up your
favorite wave editing program, loading a wave file and hitting the play
button. While the audio is playing, grab the top of the window (assuming
it is not maximized) and repeatedly pick it up and drag it to another
location on the desktop. On a soundblaster compatible card, the audio
will glitch and pop while you drag the window. On a ZA2 card, there is
a 50/50 chance the audio will swap L/R channels after such a glitch.
On an adb card, not only can the right and left channels swap, but there
is also a good chance the audio will be left in a glitchy mode that makes
the audio repeatedly jump channels resulting in a high pitch scratchy noise.

At this point in the discussion, I would like to stress that this is NOT
(I repeat NOT) the fault of the soundcard! This is not even the fault
of the VGA card... it is in fact the fault of the VGA driver. If you do
not experience any glitching or distortion then you can probably ignore
the rest of this post! I've heard that the VGA drivers supplied by
Microsoft (verses the drivers supplied by the VGA manufacturer) do not
suffer from this problem.

I think Matrox was the first to play with this, but it doesn't really
matter because most high performance VGA accelerator cards for the PCI
bus are doing the same thing now. When a number of graphics acceleration
operations need to be performed, these commands are sent from the VGA driver
to the VGA card over the PCI bus. The VGA chipset has a built in queue
that is capable of holding several accelerator commands. Normally the driver
checks a status bit on the VGA card to tell if this queue is full or not.
If the queue is full, the driver waits for the queue to have a free space
before sending the next command. Matrox discovered (and everyone soon
followed) that you could increase VGA performance by NOT CHECKING THIS
STATUS BIT!!!!! What happens when you write blindly to a full queue of
commands on the VGA card? The bus hangs... The bus master has started a
PCI transaction, but the target (the VGA card) can't accept the data yet
because it has no place to put it. As soon as the VGA card has room for the
data, then the transaction can complete... but until that time the PCI bus
is completely locked up. No PCI or ISA transactions can happen. This can
take a long time (40 or more audio cycles) if the current VGA operation is
a huge BITBLT on a 24bit screen... A 256 or 512 bit FIFO just ain't gonna
cut it.
The only acceptable solution to this problem is to put the queue check
BACK into the VGA driver. I have been discussing this problem with some
of the engineers at Matrox and Tseng labs and have some solutions for you!
Tseng labs has released a new version of their ET6000 VGA driver that
behaves nicer to the PCI bus.. this driver is now trickling down to the
STB and Hercules products that use the ET6000 chip. For the Hercules
Dynamite 128 card, there is a new driver on the Hercules BBS (not web
page... don't ask me) called DV95112 (Version 1.12) Using this driver,
you need to add a special switch in your system.ini file. Under the
heading [Hercules] there is a line that reads "Optimization=0" you will
need to set this to "Optimization=1"... ta da, problem fixed.
It turns out that Matrox has ALWAYS had a hidden back door switch to
enable this check in the VGA driver. If you are using the Matrox Millennium,
you will need to add the following lines to your system.ini file:

[mga.drv]
PCIChipset=1

This almost fixes the problem completely.... you will also need to disable
the "Use PowerGDI acceleration" feature in the Advanced Matrox setup
(Control Panel->Display Properties->MGA Settings->Advanced->Performance)
ta da... problem fixed.

[update July 1997] I've heard from the good folks at S3 that _ALL_ S3
drivers for all of their VGA cards (downloaded from www.s3.com) can be
fixed by adding a line in system.ini under the [display] section...
After [display] add the line 'bus-throttle=1' so (for S3 drivers):

[display]
busthrottle=1

[update September 1997] For owners of newer Matrox cards:
Go to screen properties (right click in main window)
Go to setting tab, Click on PowerDesk button
Check 'Use Bus Mastering' (on)
Uncheck 'Use Automatic PCI Bus retries' (off)
On Pentium Pro machines, Uncheck 'Use Write-Combining'
Click on OK

[updated November 1997] For owners of the #9 Imagine 128 series 2
It seems a new driver (version 4.102.36) is now available directly from
the folks at #9 upon request.

  • Super_Grover
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oke dan,

Harstikke bedankt, hier kunnen we weer wat mee! Toch handig zo'n forum!!
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