important advise.

[gaustler245]

Guys good evening and sorry for my english, but my dutch is still not enough to write. im trying to make a game pc for my kid and my budget is around 800€. my knowledge about computers is not so good and i became across of these components (here down). my question is: is all these components compatible with each other? can that intel i5 be installed on that motherboard? is that power enough? etc...

[gaustler245]

forgot to put the components, sorry.

pricewatch: Intel Core i5-4590 Boxed
pricewatch: Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H
pricewatch: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB GAMING
pricewatch: WD Blue WD10EZEX, 1TB
pricewatch: Cooler Master CM 690 III Closed
pricewatch: Gelid Solutions Tranquillo Rev.2
pricewatch: Crucial Ballistix Tactical BLT2C4G3D1608ET3LX0CEU
pricewatch: Cooler Master GM G550M
pricewatch: Crucial M550 2,5" 256GB


thank you for your time.

[KoningsGap]

First of all, by opening the topic there were some questions. They where in Dutch, so I can understand that this was difficult to understand for you, that's why I translated them. Copy paste the text and try to answer them and we might be able to help you out a little bit better:

The more information we have, the better.

What do you wanna do with your new system?
Tell us what you're planning to do with the system. What software are you going to use? Is it just for gaming? If yes, what kind of games? Video-editing maybe, or just the regular emailing and web browsing.

What is your price range?
Do you have an absolute maximum? In- or excluding shipping costs, assembly and the like. It doesn't have to be a fixed number but could also be an estimate.

Are there any components you already posess and are willing to transfer to your new system?
Please be specific and name the brand and model

What do you think you'll need?
Are two graphic cards and three power supplies enough? 16 SSD's in Raid-5? Tell us more about your dream rig.

Do you have any (brand)preferences?
Which brands do you prefer? Can you tell us why? Are you willing to consider other brands? Put down what you found yourself.

Do you have any demands or wishes?
In this part you should consider the size of the system, noise levels, power consumption. The more information you give, the better we can help you.

Are you planning to overclock your system?
Do you want to get the most out of your system or are the factory settings good enough for you?

Please try to answer these questions as specific as possible.

We also like to see the component list in a so called wishlist. I can understand that you don't really know how to do this, so I will explain it and for this time I did it for you. When you look at a component you want to add to the list, you click on "willen" on the rop right corner. You can then add the component to your wishlist. As soon as you added all the components to a wishlist, you can find the list if you click on your username on the topright of the screen. Click on "wenslijsten" and the list should come up. Click on the list and below it you can find the button: "Genereer RML". This generates the code that you can use on this message board to make it look like a nice list with the prices included. It looks like this:

#	Product	Prijs	Subtotaal
1	Intel Core i5-4590 Boxed	€ 188,89	€ 188,89
1	Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H	€ 87,95	€ 87,95
1	MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB GAMING	€ 142,-	€ 142,-
1	WD Blue WD10EZEX, 1TB	€ 51,95	€ 51,95
1	Cooler Master CM 690 III Closed	€ 72,95	€ 72,95
1	Gelid Solutions Tranquillo Rev.2	€ 26,-	€ 26,-
1	Crucial Ballistix Tactical BLT2C4G3D1608ET3LX0CEU	€ 66,95	€ 66,95
1	Cooler Master GM G550M	€ 49,95	€ 49,95
1	Crucial M550 2,5" 256GB	€ 94,50	€ 94,50
Bekijk collectie Importeer producten		Totaal	€ 781,14

As far as I can see at the moment all of your components are compatible with one and another but some improvements could be made, just wait for the others to reply.

Good luck!

[gaustler245]

Thank's for the reply and I get it now how to add that list. And for sure I'm going to answer that questions, here it goes.

What do you wanna do with your new system?
It's going to be mostly for games, YouTube and browsing. My kid is always playing with friends online etc.

What is your price range?
My budget as I said before is between 800/850€ including the shipping, I can't afford an expensive one. Looking at some reviews on tweakers I became across to these components.

Are there any components you already posess and are willing to transfer to your new system?
Yes, I have one external blu-ray/dvd rw and I'm not going to buy an optical drive. But I have a question about this; is it possible to install the operation system in the ssd from the blu-ray? My concern is, because the blu-ray is not installed yet, is it going to read the dvd? I don't know if you guys get my point.

What do you think you'll need?
I think for what he's going to do, is enough.

Do you have any (brand)preferences?
My knowledge about brands is to low, so for me is almost everything the same. Sorry for my ignorance.

Do you have any demands or wishes?
That's another question that doesn't fit for me, I just don't know.

Are you planning to overclock your system?
That's a good question, I've read about it and some they say it's good to do it others don't, what's your opinion about it and is it possible to do it with these components?


I hope to informed you the most as possible, and really would like to receive your comments and suggestions. About the answer from Goopher, at the end he says that some improvements can be made. Some suggestions? (inside of my budget of course). Thanks guys.

[lllustrious]

If you are mainly going to game on the pc, you may want to consider a more powerful graphics card, like in this build:

#	Product	Prijs	Subtotaal
1	Intel Core i5-4460 Boxed	€ 167,-	€ 167,-
1	Gigabyte G1.Sniper B5	€ 72,95	€ 72,95
1	Sapphire R9 290 4GB GDDR5 OC TRI-X	€ 279,-	€ 279,-
1	Seagate Desktop HDD ST1000DM003, 1TB	€ 49,95	€ 49,95
1	Cooler Master N300 (KKN1, closed)	€ 30,95	€ 30,95
1	Crucial Ballistix Tactical BLT2C4G3D1608ET3LX0CEU	€ 66,95	€ 66,95
1	Seasonic S12II-Bronze 520W	€ 54,05	€ 54,05
1	Crucial MX100 256GB	€ 97,95	€ 97,95
Bekijk collectie Importeer producten		Totaal	€ 818,80

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The r9 290 is way more powerful than the gtx 750 ti and the rest of the components are of a good quality too. Though, you should tell us what games they play, since this might be way overkill for your uses.

Where are you going to place the pc? Does it need to be silent or small, or does these things not matter to you? Also, do you need an operating system like windows or linux and peripherals like a monitor, a mouse and/or a keyboard?

[Ramellose]

While I am not sure whether you can boot from an external dvd drive, I know you can boot from a USB stick. So if installing Windows doesn't work via the external drive, you can make a bootable USB stick on a different computer. There is simple software available to do just that, but as I've never done it before I wouldn't know what to recommend you. I am sure another tweaker can though.

I don't think you should overclock your system with this budget. Nowadays, overclocking doesn't improve your performance that much, but it requires you to invest more in your motherboard, cooler, cpu, gpu and psu.

I think you should go with the motherboard and cpu that Illustrious chose. They are a few euros cheaper than the one you listed. They are compatible, the Intel i5 fits on a 1150.

The R9 290 he listed will also last your kid a couple of years. There are a lot of used (but refurbished) R9 290's in Tweaker's Vraag & Aanbod so alternatively, you could buy one there if you want to push the price down a little.
The Crucial MX SSD is also better than the M550 series you have in your list, so I would go with that.

Overall, I think the list is quite good and your son will love a desktop like this. But as Illustrious already asked, do you still need the OS? A Windows license will raise the price quite a bit.

[br00ky]

I'm sorry gaustler, but Tweakers is a Dutch forum, so problems should be adressed in Dutch. There are ample forums that are English-based, so that shouldn't be a problem. If you have any question regarding the closing of the topic you can contact me by sending me a message. To do so, click on the arrow next to my screen name and subsequently "verstuur bericht".

[ Voor 66% gewijzigd door br00ky op 21-01-2015 08:43 ]