The marriage of Plextor and SafeDisc 2 ;(

[hjs]

Here's an article written by N.B. from http://www.cdrsoft.net
Hi Folks , read this slowly and carefully...

Today I had a nice talk to XiT (coder from DiscDump). We talked especially about Plextor and about SafeDisc 2. First I want to say we just have some suppositions. I have now to do more tests on more burners, right now I can just say with 100 % about Plextor 124 TSi and about Plextor 1210A. XiT said he have done many tests with his burner, and nothing helped. It was not able to copy SafeDisc 2. But then he had a great idea He used the oldest firmware he had on his HDD. The 1.01 for Plex 1210A. And then suddenly his burner was able to copy the CDs without any problems He used as I said the Plex 1210A with the old firmware and a combination of DiscDump and CDRWin. So after he has told me that, I was first shocked, and then I wanted to do my own tests ... I have the Plextor 124 TSi (it is an SCSI drive and so its not DiscDump compatible, but XiT is working on a SCSI version of DiscDump). I downloaded the oldest firmware which is compatible to CloneCD and then I made my test series... I got "No One Lives Forever" and "Red Alert 2" both in german, but I think that doesnŽt matter First I tried to read and burn the CD with my Plex 124 (the newiest firmware from Plextor (v.1.07)) and with CloneCD. When I want to run game the game tells me: Please enter the right CD... (you surely now this fucking text )So, and now I downgraded the firmware from v.1.07 to v.1.04. I did everything again Read the CD with CloneCD and burned it with CloneCD. Everything with the Plex 124. And it really worked... I was just impressed... I tried now with some other games, and every copy was working So first it was just a hypothesis, but now XiT and me we have some evidence. Right now it really looks like Plextor modified the firmware of their models so, that they become incompatible to SafeDisc 2. Here I gave you the information to copy SafeDisc 2 protected games with Plex 1210A and Plex 124. Try to find an old firmware for your burner. DonŽt try Plextor.com... They have started to remove the old firmwares. And them try to copy your SafeDisc 2 protected games... Try with DiscDump and CDRWin (if you have IDE drives) or use BlindWrite or CloneCD...Plz try to burn it with the newest firmware and with the oldest one you can find... Then mail me [e-mail] Tell me which burner you have, which firmware, and which program you have used, and if the copied CDs worked or not... THX !

Folks, spread this information into every forum, every newsgoup, really EVERYWHERE !Everybody should now about Plextor turned against us ! I remember a time when Plextor produced the best burners But now these times are over ... I will never buy a Plextor drive again !

[eGo2K]

hmm... ik wet het niet hoor...
Wat ik niet snap is dat ik (met mijn plex 121032A) WEL Ra2 kon kopieren.... het kan idd. zijn dat ik toen met firmware 1.04 rondliep,. Hoe ik dit deed is door een ISO van internet te halen en branden met CDRWIN... Dit had ik alleen met CD1 gedaan.. CD2 heb ik GEWOON gekopieerd met CloneCD... Ja... ik had eerst gecheckt met een protectiondetector... die zei dat ik x-opties moest gebruikt voor CloneCD...

oh well....

[hjs]

Vervolg

Hi Folks
The news is around the world, and everybody wants to check for himself
I made two little tutorials for flashing the burner, and for installing & seting up CloneCD as me. So you can run the same test like me
You can find them at www.cdrsoft.net
Another thing I want to add is something the webmaster from www.CD-RW.ORG rememberd me today:
In the Plex 4220 the 1.01 firmware is the only firmware that is RAW compatible - none of the newer ones are. They said that they had technical reasons for disabling the RAW mode, but didn't give any more info on the subject.
Thx I already almost forgotten that
So this will be the last for today ..
Tomorrow you will get some more screen shot about the full test !
So be prepared, and hopefully Plextors does anything ..
Maybe I get another mail from them

[Jive]

Bij mij geen probbies hoor ....
Gewoon mijn ra-2 cedees voor mijn buurjongen kunnen backuppen ... hoefde hij teminste niet elke keer mijn cedee's te lenen om thuis te oefennen ......
Hij word met de dag beter , maar winnen doetie nog steeds nie

plex 12/4/32 & uplex 40ts .... scsi ... 1.07/1.12 firmwares

[Cyberpope]

Of dat het zo is weet ik niet. Ik weet wel dat ik safedisk 2 wel kan copieeren op mijn plextor 20/4/2 met firmv. 1.1. maar niet met versie 1.4 (clonecd werkt ook alleen maar met 1.1).

Ja het klopt versie 1.1 is niet meer te downloaden op de plextor site

Mocht iemand hem toch willen, mail me even op:
The.Cyberpope@12(geenreclame)move.nl

(verwijder wel even het (geenreclame) !!)

[jaspov]

ik heb een 8432a ide en firmware 1.09. Lukt me niet.

iemand meer succes met een andere versie?

[jaspov]

antwoord al gevonden. lijst met branders die het kunnen hier

http://www.cdrtimes.com/articals/sd2compatable/sd2%20compatable%20list.htm

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http://www.plextor.be/english/technical/download2.html
kijk hier maar eens

[Cyberpope]

En zoals je ziet, zijn bij de oude versies de nummers zwart. Deze kun je dus NIET downloaden.

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ftp.sage-au.org.au/pub/ar...software/firmware/plextor

check daar eens

[Duckpower]

Het schijnt ook zo te zijn, dat van de nieuwste Plextor writers de firmware niet te downgraden is. Dan kun je dus helemaal geen SD2-beveiligde cd's meer kopieren. Volgens Plextor is het geen standaard van 'the Orange Book'. Dus.....dag Plextor!! :(:(

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Of koop gewoon een flipsen 8*4*32 voor 300 piek

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Ach kop op dan komt er wel weer gehackte firmware net als dvd spelers regiovrij maken . Ik kan trouwens gewoon copieren met mijn plex 16*10*40