[Laptops] Waar te vinden & Wat te kiezen?

AMD64 M, ik ben op zoek naar een laptop met een 64M 3400+ cpu. Dit met het oog op de toekomst. Op die manier kan ik de eerstkomende tijd nog mooi mee + het zijn enorme krachtpatsers. Verder hebben ze de mogelijkheid om zichzelf terug te clocken, waardoor ze (als het goed is) nog redelijk zuinig om kunnen springen met de accu. Ik weet dat ik niet moet verwachten dat ik 2 uur kan gaan renderen, maar bij normaal gebruik (muziekje + dreamweaver ofzoiets).

- Fatsoenlijke grafische kaart. Uiteraard moet het een dedicated grafische kaart zijn . Het liefst een GeForce FX Go 6800 , maarja dat is met mijn budget een beetje een utopie vrees ik . Over de grafische kaart hieronder nog wat vragen!

- Gewicht, dat zie ik het liefst in de buurt van de 3kg liggen

- Scherm, uiteraard een goed scherm, wat een fatsoenlijke resolutie aankan, maar wat geen breedbeeld is. Ik vind een wxga laptop nogal breed uitvallen en zie 't liefst een normale 15" laptop.

3. Stressen. Gezien ik de laptop dus ook wil gebruiken om CS:Source te spelen (wellicht andere spellen af en toe, maar het zal voornamelijk Source zijn) zal hij regelmatig behoorlijk belast worden, kan dat kwaad? Ja, het klinkt misschien stom, maar ik ben niet heel erg bekend met laptops en dit wordt mijn eerste en ik wil dus niet dat ik dadelijk iets verknal ofzo. Vandaar dat ik ook best m'n projecten op m'n PC zou willen renderen.

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DarkWingDuck schreef op vrijdag 21 januari 2005 @ 09:47:
Ja ik zou graag die benchmarks zien thnx alvast!

r0b schreef op vrijdag 21 januari 2005 @ 02:30:
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2Kg, schoon aan de haak.

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Verwijderd schreef op vrijdag 21 januari 2005 @ 12:22:
Die Acer Aspire 1524WLMi is een leuk laptopje maar het scherm heeft een beetje rare resolutie (1280*800). Geen breedbeeld maar ook geen 4:3 . Het hangt een beetje af wat je met je laptop gaat doen maar persoonlijk lijkt mij dit niks.Ik heb zelf 1400*1050 (Aspire 1501) en dat is een hoop ruimte.

DarkWingDuck schreef op vrijdag 21 januari 2005 @ 14:54:
Da's mooi


Heeft iemand praktijk ervaring met CS:Source op een laptop met 'n Go 5650/5700 of Ati 9600 / 9700 64mb / 9700 128mb?

The Final Word
Using Intel’s Pentium-M processor in a desktop environment is certainly a mixed bag at this time, but in our opinion there are more positives to negatives for such a system setup when we look at the big picture.

First off, the Pentium-M chip is a fairly good performer all around. The chip actually puts up numbers on par with Pentium 4 Extreme Edition and Athlon64 FX-55 in gaming, which is no easy feat. In the majority of benchmarks, the Pentium-M at 2.0 GHz can perform roughly on par with a 3.2 GHz P4 or an Athlon64 3200+ processor. Not great, but not terrible either. Some areas, like video encoding, really show the limitations of the Pentium-M architecture and the processor simply doesn’t perform that well considering its $450 price tag. While every processor has areas which it excels in, the Pentium-M processor seems to be a bit more extreme in its varying performance levels between applications. Some applications will just run insanely fast on the Pentium-M, while others will struggle to keep up. Overall though, performance is still certainly acceptable for the vast majority of applications

The power and heat benefits of the Pentium-M compared to the Pentium 4 can not be ignored. The chip can put up performance numbers with high-end Intel and AMD processors but at 1/4th to 1/5th the power / heat levels, which certainly proves how power efficient the Pentium-M architecture really is. This chip is just perfect for small form factor PC’s, low power servers, and home theater PC’s. While the video encoding performance of this chip gave us doubts about its ability to perform in an HTPC environment, we were very happy with how well our desktop system ran Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005, which we installed after our benchmarking sessions.

We’re very happy with AOpen’s first Pentium-M platform, and this company should be given kudos for taking the risk of producing such a board for a platform which so many people know nothing about. The board has just about all the features we could want or expect in an 855-series platform, and offers quite a bit of flexibility for those who want to tweak their platforms to their fullest. It’s certainly possible to build a very high performance system with a Pentium-M processor and AOpen’s new i855GMEm-LFS board. This board is expected to start shipping in its finalized state this week and will likely sell for around $275.

Intel’s Dothan core, unfortunately, suffers the most due to its aging 855 chipset backbone. In order for the Pentium-M processor to make any real inroads in the enthusiast crowd, many will want a new chipset with PCI Express, native SATA RAID, and perhaps a dual channel memory interface which supports more than 2GB of memory. Perhaps we’ll see such a chipset in the near future, but we’re not holding our breath for now.

We wish Intel would realize that they have a potentially incredible product with the Pentium-M and the Dothan processor core. Multiple Dothan cores on a single processor could alleviate any issues that the core has with workstation application performance, and would still produce half the power of today’s Pentium 4 processors. Throw in EM64T, SSE-3, Hyper-Threading, and perhaps even an on-die DDR memory controller, and Intel would have an amazing low power, high performance product. While it pains us to see the potential of the Pentium-M core going largely unrecognized by the company which produces it, we’re happy to see that it’s finally starting to get the receive the attention from the enthusiast community which it deserves. I think that once these first generation boards get out, the Pentium-M will carve itself a terrific niche market for those who want a high-performance, low power/heat system.

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The Final Word
Hopefully these latest pages of revised benchmarks give a better perspective on the gaming potential of Intel’s “Dothan” Pentium-M processors in comparison to AMD’s Athlon64/FX and Intel’s Pentium 4/EE series of processors. While we were curiously optimistic in our first Dothan lab report, now we can now confirm that the Dothan is a superb gaming CPU across the board. Every game we tested showed the top of the line 2.0 GHz Pentium-M processor competing within a few percentage points of top of the line “gaming” CPU’s.

Make no mistake though, AMD’s Athlon64 FX-55 is still the best pure gaming processor currently on the market, In the majority of games, Intel’s top of the line 3.4 GHz Extreme Edition chip will usually beat the top Pentium-M processor at stock speeds, but the performance difference between these two CPU’s is hardly noticeable in most titles. Whether this makes the Pentium-M look great or makes the Extreme Edition look bad, that’s all in how you interpret the numbers.

While putting up impressive gaming numbers is one thing, one simply must consider the benefits of the Pentium-M architecture in comparison to these other high-end CPU’s. The Pentium-M can compete typically perform within 5% of top of the line Intel/AMD consumer level processors in gaming while running at one fourth the heat production levels. Power consumption numbers are also far, far less on the Pentium-M compared to other modern processor lines. Basically, you’re getting solid gaming performance without all the nasty side effects of running at high clock speeds, thanks to the efficiency of the Dothan core architecture.

Also keep in mind that the Dothan Pentium-M is running on a fairly old feature set, and it can still put up numbers on par with today’s fastest gaming processors. The Pentium-M doesn’t have technologies such as Hyper-Threading, Dual Channel DDR-400/DDR2 memory, on-die DDR memory controllers, or fast graphics interfaces like AGP 8x/PCI Express. It performs this well on antiquated platform technologies, which immediately makes us think of how well this processor could perform with a modern chipset.

Several astute readers pointed out that the next Intel Pentium-M chipset, Alviso, is not that far off. While this chipset has been delayed multiple times (as it was supposed to debut with the initial Dothan-based Pentium-M processors earlier this year), its current scheduled release date is “Early 2005”, which could mean anywhere from two to six months off. Alviso is set to pair the Pentium-M processor with a 533 MHz FSB, dual channel DDR2-533 memory, PCI Express graphics, along with the ability to pair up with Intel’s ICH6R core to give the chipset Serial ATA/150 RAID and High-Definition Audio. Obviously, the Pentium-M paired with such a chipset would be a direct rival to Intel’s own Pentium 4 processor lineup, and we’re certain that there are some internal conflicts at Intel which would arise if such a chipset made it to the desktop. We can only hope that it does.

Back to the point at hand. For this lab report, we’re running benchmarks with blinders on, only focusing on gaming. In this respect, the Pentium-M is a pretty impressive chip and should certainly not be written off as a fluke.

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Thefirstikke schreef op vrijdag 21 januari 2005 @ 11:55:
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Volgensmij weegt de 4001wlmi bijna 3kg.

DarkWingDuck schreef op vrijdag 21 januari 2005 @ 11:37:
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EXOR: erg handig je overzicht! Ik miste zoiets momenteel wel, nu ik aan het rondneuzen ben. Helaas hebben fabrikanten dat niet standaard bij hun producten zitten, zou mooi zijn, maar dat zouden fabrikanten denk ik niet zo graag hebben
Zodra ik heb besloten welke laptop het wordt en ik hem heb zal ik zeker mijn "plicht" doen en benchmarks te draaien voor op je overzicht! Ik ga er nu even rondkijken in ieder geval! Thnx

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