Non-windows humor, part 2 :)

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OT: (You forgot the best part....) (Score:5, Funny)
by TitaniumFox (467977) on Monday August 18, @11:01PM (#6729327)
(Last Journal: Friday July 04, @02:37AM)

SCO: So, it is down to you, and it is down to me...if you wish Linux dead, by all means keep moving forward.
IBM: Let me explain...
SCO: There's nothing to explain. You're trying to kidnap what I have rightfully stolen.
IBM: Perhaps an arrangement can be reached?
SCO: There will be no arrangements...and you're killing Linux.
IBM: But if there can be no arrangement, then we are at an impasse.
SCO: I'm afraid so. I can't compete with you physically, and you're no match for my brains.
IBM: You're that smart?
SCO: Let me put it this way: Have you ever heard or Kernighan, Ritchie, Torvalds?
IBM: Yes.
SCO: Morons!
IBM: Really! In that case, I challenge you to a battle of wits.
SCO: For the kernel? To the death? I accept!
IBM: Good, then untar the source code. [SCO# tar -xvfz code] Inhale this but do not touch.
SCO: [taking a vial from IBM] I smell nothing.
IBM: What you do not smell is our patent portfolio. It is odorless, tasteless, and dissolves instantly in source code and is among the more deadly portfolios known to man.
SCO: [shrugs with laughter] Hmmm.
IBM: [turning his back, and adding the patents to one of the code trees] Alright, where are the patents? The battle of wits has begun. It ends when you decide and we both compile - and find out who is right, and who is dead.
SCO: But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine it from what I know of you. Are you the sort of company who would put the patents into his own source code or his enemies? Now, a clever man would put the patents into his own goblet because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool so I can clearly not choose the code in front of you...But you must have known I was not a great fool; you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the code in front of me.
IBM: You've made your decision then?
SCO: [happily] Not remotely! Because Linux's SMP code originally came from England(1). As everyone knows, England is entirely peopled with criminals. And criminals are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me. So, I can clearly not choose the code in front of you.
IBM: Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
SCO: Wait 'till I get going!! ...where was I?
IBM: England.
SCO: Yes! AH! And you must have suspected I would have known the source code's origin,so I can clearly not choose the code in front of me.
IBM: You're just stalling now.
SCO: You'd like to think that, wouldn't you! You've beaten my giant, which means you're exceptionally strong...so you could have put the patents in your own code trusting on your strength to save you, so I can clearly not choose the code in front of you. But, you've also bested my Spaniard, which means you must have studied...and in studying you must have learned that Man is mortal so you would have put the patents as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose the code in front of me!
IBM: You're trying to trick me into giving away something. It won't work.
SCO: It has worked! You've given everything away! I know where the patents are!
IBM: Then make your choice.
SCO: I will, and I choose...[pointing behind IBM] What in the world can that be?
IBM: [turning around, while SCO switches goblets] What?! Where?! I don't see anything.
SCO: Oh, well, I...I could have sworn I saw something. No matter. [SCO laughs]
IBM: What's so funny?
SCO: I...I'll tell you in a minute. First, lets compile, me from my code and you from yours. [They both compile]
IBM: You guessed wrong.
SCO: You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched branches when your back was turned! Ha ha, you fool!! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia; and only slightly less well known is this: Never go in against SCO, when intellectual property is on the line!

SCO: HA-HAHA-HAHA AH-HAHA-HAHA (!!) (THUD!)

[IBM removes the blindfold from Linux]

Linux: Who are you?
IBM: I'm no one to be trifled with. That is all you'll ever need know.
Linux: And to think, all that time it was your code that was patented.
IBM: They were both patented. I spent the last few years building up an impressive patent portfolio.

(1) smp.c
/*
    2 * Intel SMP support routines.
    3 *
    4 * (c) 1995 Alan Cox, Building #3
    5 * (c) 1998-99, 2000 Ingo Molnar
    6 *
    7 * This code is released under the GNU General Public License version 2 or
    8 * later.
    9 */


Re:OT: (You forgot the best part....) (Score:5, Funny)
by Ibix (600618) on Tuesday August 19, @07:15AM (#6731291)
5 * (c) 1998-99, 2000 Ingo Molnar
"My name is Ingo Molnar. You steal my source code! Prepare to die!" Sorry...

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Trixie the Telebubbie-Telnet Doll

Telebubbie-Telnet represents a gigantic leap forward for remote telnet applications. With support for both Telnet and SSH on any port, the usability and configurability sets Telebubbie-Telnet in a league of its own. In an effort to keep your data confidential and secure, Telebubbie-Telnet supports multiple encryptions, including 3DES, Blowfish and DES.

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Gates says his efforts will help maintain the purity of yesterday's software industry. "The software industry is finished with these scandalous Scandinavians," he told a business audience in Seattle last Friday. Gates continued, "They are destroying the very fabric of American life - profits, theft, abuse, and slander!" which was greeted with thunderous applause from the audience of more than a dozen executives.

George Bush, for his part, said that the banning of all Finns from the United States was an excellent and patriotic idea worthy of little study and quick, thoughtless execution. At least, that's what we think he said.

AlterEgo wijzigde dit bericht 26-08-2003 20:41 (76%)

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"Statistically, 1% of all people are Linux users. Rather than have these young hoodlums grow up without any respect for our intellectual property, we have chosen to nip it in the bud, as it were," said SCO's CEO, Darl McBride.

In addition, during the campaign announcement, SCO said that individuals could pay $2,499 per child for immunity from execution. "The price goes up to $5,200 dollars after that family's firstborn reaches 18 months, so it is in their advantage to pony up now," McBride continued.

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## Standard shell script disclaimer blurb thing:
##
## This script is a hack. It's brute force. It's horrible.
## It doesn't use Artificial Intelligence. It doesn't use Virtual Reality.
## It's not perl. It's not python. It probably won't work unchanged on
## the "other" thousands of unices. But it worksforme. --ramiro

Heidistein wijzigde dit bericht 29-08-2003 19:49 (31%)
Reden: plaatjestoei

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Tijz schreef op 30 augustus 2003 @ 16:27:
a depressed webserver!!! Deze link leidt naar een 404 pagina, dat is ook de bedoeling! Deze webserver wordt hierdoor net zo depressed als de robot uit hitchhikers guide

http://www.scintilla.utwe...ES/service/crosslink.html

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Wezzl schreef op 11 August 2003 @ 11:07:
Uit de Gentoo Desktop configuratie handleiding:
code:

1	Unfortunately, the evolution build takes slightly longer than forever (notice that mozilla is a dependency!); have several gallons of coffee/tea while you wait.

En ook de nederlandse vertaling:
code:

1 2 3

Jammergenoeg duurt het compileren van Evolution iets langer dan de levensduur van een gemiddelde ster zoals onze Zon (mozilla is een afhankelijkheid!). Drink dus je ganse verzameling RedBulls maar leeg terwijl je wacht, en ga dan achter een nieuwe set.

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Gnutella/


A plugin shrouded in mystery and intringue included in the standard distribution to torment and confuse new giFT users. Err uhh, I mean I don't know much about it's implementation or specific details of the Gnutella network, so I will leave this as a sort of TODO element for hipnod to complete at his discretion.

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$ lynx -dump www.ilse.nl | perl

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serkoon schreef op 07 September 2003 @ 12:24:
't Is dan wat oud en ook niet echt non-windows humor, maar grappig nonetheless:

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RedSonja schreef op 08 September 2003 @ 23:23:
De onderste is speciaal voor FreeBSD users
http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue94/ecol.html

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Cowboy_Bebop schreef op 27 June 2003 @ 20:55:
The secret life of Penguins !!


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http://home.t-online.de/home/Bernhard.Hailer/penguin/

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ozymandias schreef op 09 September 2003 @ 13:33:
google op "answer to life the universe and everything" zonder quotes

YaPP wijzigde dit bericht 09-09-2003 16:33 (3%)
Reden: * daarmee kan ik met pijl-omlaag+enter zoeken op google als ik wat termen intyp.

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YaPP schreef op 09 September 2003 @ 16:33:
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huh wat is dat voor een easter egg?

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Reptile209 schreef op 07 September 2003 @ 12:30:
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En voor wie Lynx (ook) niet heeft, de "oplossing" staat hier

1
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smokalot@desktop> lynx -dump www.ilse.nl | perl                                 ~ 17:07
ALL YOUR SEARCH ARE BELONG TO US
smokalot@desktop>                                                               ~ 17:07

smokalot wijzigde dit bericht 09-09-2003 17:11 (7%)

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Phantom schreef op 09 September 2003 @ 17:10:
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Komt uit "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy"

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RedSonja schreef op 10 September 2003 @ 01:22:
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Wie is de schrijver? Lijkt me een leuk boek, als dit soort vragen daarin behandelt worden...

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smokalot schreef op 09 September 2003 @ 17:10:
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hmmm, ik krijg

code:

1 2	smokalot@desktop> lynx -dump www.ilse.nl | perl ~ 17:07 ALL YOUR SEARCH ARE BELONG TO US smokalot@desktop> ~ 17:07

ook grappig

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lynx -dump www.ilse.nl | less

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deepspace schreef op 10 September 2003 @ 23:22:
Niet echt Non-windows, maar meer algemene humor, ik vond het echter zo leuk dat ik hem toch maar post:

[afbeelding]
[vertaling: Hallo Schat, ik heb die diskette gevonden die je gisteren zo erg gezocht had]

Ik lag helemaal dubbel

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jeroen@sprite:~$ telnet localhost 8888
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to sprite.sprite.
Escape character is '^]'.
blaaaaaaat
HTTP/1.0 306 Grow up
Server: icecast/1.3.11-debian
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title>306 Request all messed up</title>
</head>

<body>
<h1>306 Request all messed up</h1>
The request your application sent to the server makes
no more sense than... well.. women with clothes on <br>
<hr>
</body>
</html>
Connection closed by foreign host.
jeroen@sprite:~$

Sprite_tm wijzigde dit bericht 11-09-2003 03:02 (12%)

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deepspace schreef op 10 september 2003 @ 23:22:
[vertaling: Hallo Schat, ik heb die diskette gevonden die je gisteren zo erg gezocht had]

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thomasfilius schreef op 11 September 2003 @ 09:32:
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Ja bedankt voor het vinden en voor het verneuken van de disk met dat fijne koelkast magneetje

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linuxgeek schreef op 11 September 2003 @ 10:18:
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een grap uitleggen

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Why is OpenServer still so successful? The reasons are clear:

* Rock solid stability and dependability – operates round the clock, 365 days a year
* Secure – sensitive business and client data is kept confidential
* New releases preserve application compatibility– protects application investments
* Unbeatable value in terms of price and reliability running on Intel hardware.

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Why is OpenServer still so successful? The reasons are clear:

* Stolen Linux code – operates round the clock, 365 days a year
* Secure - sensitive business and client data is kept confidential
* New releases preserve application compatibility – protects application investments
* Unbeatable value in terms of price and reliability running on Intel hardware

smoking2000 wijzigde dit bericht 19-09-2003 16:50 (7%)

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Well, do you believe these guys have any impact in Brussels?

Maybe if you drop them from 20,000 meters.

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The Connect() Scan took 95 seconds to scan 1554 ports.
Interesting ports on *.*.*.*
(The 1542 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
Port State Service
2064/tcp open distrib-net-losers

Final times for host: srtt: 255035 rttvar: 205341 to: 1076399

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AlterEgo schreef op 22 September 2003 @ 15:32:
Linus en Alan hebben een open brief naar de EU gestuurd m.b.t. software patenten (bron)

Meesterlijke reactie:

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bron

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smoking2000 schreef op 01 August 2003 @ 11:05:

"And the beast shall be made legion. Its numbers shall be increased a thousand thousand fold. The din of a million keyboards like unto a great storm shall cover the earth, and the followers of Mammon shall tremble.
from The Book of Mozilla, 3:31
(Red Letter Edition)"

about:mozilla

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And so at last the beast fell and the unbelievers rejoiced. But all was not lost, for from the ash rose a great bird. The bird gazed down upon the unbelievers and cast fire and thunder upon them. For the beast had been reborn with its strength renewed, and the followers of Mammon cowered in horror.

from The Book of Mozilla, 7:15

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So if you're not running the latest milestone, we could use your help testing either that or the latest nightly build. (Be warned that nightly builds are development software, and there is no guarantee that they won't fry your processor, insult your mother, or cause you to break out in a nasty rash.)

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wzzrd schreef op 05 October 2003 @ 11:47:
Is dat een serieuze reclame? Wat suf.
Filosofisch vraagje trouwens: de vorige non-windows humor draad ging dicht door een te groot aantal anti-MS posts. Gaat deze straks dicht wegens een te groot aantal pro-MS anti-Linux posts als deze hierboven (of interpreteer ik die pinguins verkeerd?)?

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Requirements
- PHP3, PHP4 or PHP5: phpMyAdmin widely uses the 'str_replace()' PHP function that was added in PHP 3.0.6, but was buggy up until PHP 3.0.8. Then you should not run this script with PHP3 < 3.0.8.
PHP also needs to be compiled with MySQL support;
If you want to display inline thumbnails of JPEGs with the original aspect ratio, you also need GD2 support in PHP.
- MySQL 3.21 or newer (details);
- a web-browser (doh!).

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[raymondw@redhat9 raymondw]# tar cf archive.tar
tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive
Try 'tar --help' for more information

quote: http://www.bash.org/?10686

<astroDZ> i brought back marlbro 100s
<astroDZ> a carton of them to smoke
<astroDZ> i was told that were was enuff tar in 1 pack , to zip up all of freebsd and openbsd
<astroDZ> anyone care to confirm?

quote: http://bash.org/?152037

<dm> I discovered that you'd never get an answer to a problem from Linux Gurus by asking. You have to troll in order for someone to help you with a Linux problem.
<dm> For example, I didn't know how to find files by contents and the man pages were way too confusing. What did I do? I knew from experience that if I just asked, I'd be told to read the man pages even though it was too hard for me.
<dm> Instead, I did what works. Trolling. By stating that Linux sucked because it was so hard to find a file compared to Windows, I got every self-described Linux Guru around the world coming to my aid. They gave me examples after examples of different ways to do it. All this in order to prove to everyone that Linux was better.
* ion has quit IRC (Ping timeout)
<dm> brings a tear to my eye... so true..
<dm> So if you're starting out Linux, I advise you to use the same method as I did to get help. Start the sentence with "Linux is gay because it can't do XXX like Windows can". You will have PhDs running to tell you how to solve your problems.
<dm> this person must be a kindred spirit of mine

Rafe wijzigde dit bericht 12-10-2003 01:05 (75%)

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Unix gives you just enough rope to hang yourself -- and then a couple
of more feet, just to be sure.
-- Eric Allman

... We make rope.
-- Rob Gingell on Sun Microsystem's new virtual memory.

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deepspace schreef op 10 september 2003 @ 23:22:
Niet echt Non-windows, maar meer algemene humor, ik vond het echter zo leuk dat ik hem toch maar post:

[afbeelding]
[vertaling: Hallo Schat, ik heb die diskette gevonden die je gisteren zo erg gezocht had]

Ik lag helemaal dubbel

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I saw my whole life flash before my eyes:
rm -rfv ~/

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[marcelm@something marcelm]$ w3m shit
w3m: Can't load shit.

RVW wijzigde dit bericht 14-11-2003 15:08 (12%)

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LX-i wrote

> > i am looking for a cobol mode for emacs or a cobol editor for GNU/Linux.
> > thanks
>
> I don't know if there's a console-mode GVIM or not, but it works pretty
> well. It flags lines with footprints past column 72 as errors, even if
> they're commented with *>, but other than that, it does highlight syntax
> and such.

Isn't suggesting that an emacs user look at a vi clone like offering a
ham and cheese sandwich to a Rabbi ?

HAL-9000 wijzigde dit bericht 14-11-2003 17:12 (8%)

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cannot find "xterm" to start a failsafe session.

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pc1 login: rood
Password:
Login incorrect

compukid wijzigde dit bericht 18-11-2003 21:22 (25%)
Reden: typo, en nog een....

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$ sudo bla
Password:
Maybe if you used more than just two fingers...
Password:
stty: unknown mode: doofus
Password:
I've seen penguins that can type better than that.
sudo: 3 incorrect password attempts

$ sudo bla
Password:
Are you on drugs?
Password:
You type like i drive.
Password:
Do you think like you type?
sudo: 3 incorrect password attempts

AlterEgo wijzigde dit bericht 20-11-2003 09:51 (17%)
Reden: grapje is om zeep geholpen.

Cavorka wijzigde dit bericht 19-11-2003 12:17 (12%)

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AlterEgo schreef op 19 november 2003 @ 10:03:
Toshiba technical Support.

Let op de advertentie onderaan het scherm:

[afbeelding]

Toen ben ik maar Linux gaan draaien

voodooless wijzigde dit bericht 19-11-2003 21:44 (34%)

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Pinball schreef op 23 november 2003 @ 16:08:

[afbeelding]

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This project uses the power of Linux to add brains to the Big Mouth Billy Bass. The goal is to use any Linux device--desktop or embedded--to make the Big Mouth Billy Bass say or act any way you want! That's right, we want to convert Big Mouth Billy to the least expensive peripheral you'll ever buy.

Ja DIE

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You may remember these news about the potential danger represented by SCO's lawsuit against IBM ? Well, here's a nice announcement of mine: this absurd comedy has come to an end.

Let's review the piece together:

Act 1, scene 1: SCO files suit against IBM on March the 6th, 2003, asking for a billion dollars in damages, stating that IBM incorporated SCO-licensed code into the Linux kernel. Then SCO demands that IBM stops selling AIX, which contains SysV code upon which SCO has rights. IBM refuses, arguing that their right to use this code is non-revocable (this right was obtained after the ATT/Berkeley lawsuit, because SysV contained code from BSD). Daringly, SCO declares IBM's licence revoked. IBM does not give in and continues selling AIX.

Act 1, scene 2: SCO multiplies by three the amount of damages and throws some public accusations, swiftly dismissed, about technology exports regulations and Linux's symmetric multiprocessing support.

Act 1, scene 3: RedHat comes onstage and files suit against SCO to establish themselves innocent. They mount a legal fund up to a million dollars.

Act 1, scene 4: SCO declares having proof of the infringement, but refuses to show it ?


The curtain falls, and the audience (Linux users) holds their breath.


Act 2, scene 1: SCO attacks again declaring they'll charge $699 per processor every Linux user (audience's uncontrolled and uninterrupted laughter lasts minutes).

Act 2, scene 2: In an even more daring move, SCO's lawyer, Boies, declares the GPL invalid, because it authorises multiple copies while the law obliges to authorise at least one copy. Audience rolls on the floor laughing.

Act 2, scene 3: SCO's "proof" is diffused. It appears that it is BSD-licensed code, SCO has no copyright on it whatsoever. Bruce Perens formally recognizes the BSD code, some of which was "borrowed" by SGI. Bursts of laughter erupt.

Act 2, scene 4: Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, inventors of the C programming language and co-authors of UNIX, state they wrote (one or the other) the code presented by SCO as "proof". Audience's laughs again, though the repetition comic is wearing.


Intermission, spectators pause for breathing.


Act 3, scene 1: SCO is fined 10000 euro and ordered to shut up in Germany after a short duel. Audience claps vigorously.

Act 3, scene 2: LinuxWorld's Paul Nowak challenges SCO, and scars them on the face, exposing to the public that SCO ignores everything about its own code.

Act 3, scene 3: Boies, SCO's lawyer, is hit by three ethics charges, from behind. Spectators hold their breath: will he survive his wounds ?

Act 3, scene 4: IBM stuns SCO with a well-placed copyright violation plaint. SCO's stock loses 17% in a few hours, and spectators realise that SCO has distributed, under their own non-GPL licence, code thatspectators themselves have written, violating the copyright of virtually every single Linux contributor ! The audience stands up and stomps SCO dead.


The End

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http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/344.gif

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AlterEgo schreef op 30 november 2003 @ 15:48:
(flash) Dit is echt de vre-se-lijkste commercial die ik in lange tijden gezien heb :)

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IceManX schreef op 30 november 2003 @ 17:08:
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GEWELDIG!!

En het is nog van lindows zelf ook!

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Illegal_Alien schreef op 30 november 2003 @ 17:41:
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Lindows is 10x niks, dan heb ik liever een RH, of Mandrake Linux

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AlterEgo schreef op 30 november 2003 @ 15:48:
(flash) Dit is echt de vre-se-lijkste commercial die ik in lange tijden gezien heb :)

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TeasingU schreef op 30 november 2003 @ 19:25:
Een van de pluspunten van Lindows open source, er wordt best wel open over gedaan.

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TeasingU schreef op 30 november 2003 @ 19:25:
Die Michael Robertson geeft (in zijn nieuwsbrieven) toe dat voor sommige doeleinden nog geen Lindows alternatief is. Dus is het waarschijnlijk met Macromedia Flash op een Mac of pc met Windows gemaakt.

Een van de pluspunten van Lindows, er wordt best wel open over gedaan.

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AlterEgo schreef op 30 november 2003 @ 15:48:
(flash) Dit is echt de vre-se-lijkste commercial die ik in lange tijden gezien heb :)

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> Is there any fuzzy logic package?
70% Yes -- see http://www.biostat.wisc.edu/~annis/creations/PyLisp/
20% Sorta Yes -- see http://starship.python.net/crew/seehof/NeuralPython.html
10% No real code but there are toy examples

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A is for awk, which runs like a snail, and
B is for biff, which reads all your mail.
C is for cc, as hackers recall, while
D is for dd, the command that does all.
E is for emacs, which rebinds your keys, and
F is for fsck, which rebuilds your trees.
G is for grep, a clever detective, while
H is for halt, which may seem defective.
I is for indent, which rarely amuses, and
J is for join, which nobody uses.
K is for kill, which makes you the boss, while
L is for lex, which is missing from DOS.
M is for more, from which less was begot, and
N is for nice, which it really is not.
O is for od, which prints out things nice, while
P is for passwd, which reads in strings twice.
Q is for quota, a Berkeley-type fable, and
R is for ranlib, for sorting ar table.
S is for spell, which attempts to belittle, while
T is for true, which does very little.
U is for uniq, which is used after sort, and
V is for vi, which is hard to abort.
W is for whoami, which tells you your name, while
X is, well, X, of dubious fame.
Y is for yes, which makes an impression, and
Z is for zcat, which handles compression.
-- THE ABC'S OF UNIX

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Het GNOME-paneel 2.2.0.1
Dit programma is verantwoordelijk voor het starten van andere toepassingen, het inbedden van applets, de wereldvrede en willekeurige crashes van X.

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The GNOME Panel 2.4.1
This program is responsible for launching other applications and embedding small applets within itself.

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StratoS_V2.0 schreef op 12 december 2003 @ 15:10:
2.4.1 heeft dat iig niet meer. (met language gewoon op engels)


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Wanda heeft totaal geen nut. Het kost slechts schijfruimte en processortijd, en, indien geladen, ook kostbare ruimte in het paneel en het geheugen. Als iemand betrapt wordt op het gebruiken ervan, dient hij ogenblikkelijk een psychiatrisch onderzoek te ondergaan.

smoking2000 wijzigde dit bericht 17-12-2003 17:01 (4%)

Olaf van der Spek wijzigde dit bericht 18-12-2003 10:20 (12%)

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Hot-babe is a small graphical utility which display the system activity in a very special way. When the CPU is idle, it displays a dressed girl, and when the activity goes up, as the temperature increases, the girl begins to undress, to finish totally naked when the system activity reaches 100%. Of course, if you can be shocked by nudity, don't use it!

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smoking2000 schreef op 17 december 2003 @ 17:01:
[afbeelding]