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Ik zoek naar een full cover block, wil gewoon de temperaturen op een wat &#38;quot;normaler&#38;quot; lniveau hebben, dus full cover is the way to go. Ga eens kijken wat er de volgende maand miss op de markt komt. Maar in elk geval bedankt voor de replies.&#60;br&#62;
Moederbord wordt dus actief lucht, CPU wordt gekoeld door de Apogee GT en zo hou ook nog voldoende &#38;quot;koel&#38;quot;vermogen over voor de 2X0 GTX om die te koelen .&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Perfecte keuze;)</message_content>
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<message_content>Omdat ik helemaal nieuw ben met waterkoeling leek mij het een goed idee om een alles in een set te kopen (dan heb ik gelijk alles compleet). Nu zag ik deze set staan: &#60;a href="http://www.highflow.nl/index.php?target=products&#38;amp;product_id=163" rel="external"&#62;klik&#60;/a&#62;. Die leek me wel wat, kwalitatief goede onderdelen allemaal had ik in recensies gelezen. Ik neem hem met een Feser Single radiator (+20 e) en een HD3870 blok (+5,50) dus &#164;374,50 totaal.&#60;br&#62;
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Het is nogal veel geld voor mij maar ik heb het er graag voor over, als ik maar zeker weet dat het een goede koop is.</message_content>
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<message_content>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;&#60;b&#62;&#60;a href="http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/30289248#30289248" rel="external" class="messagelink"&#62;Maksvr schreef op zondag 22 juni 2008 @ 11:42&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/b&#62;&#60;br&#62;
Omdat ik helemaal nieuw ben met waterkoeling leek mij het een goed idee om een alles in een set te kopen (dan heb ik gelijk alles compleet). Nu zag ik deze set staan: &#60;a href="http://www.highflow.nl/index.php?target=products&#38;amp;product_id=163" rel="external"&#62;klik&#60;/a&#62;. Die leek me wel wat, kwalitatief goede onderdelen allemaal had ik in recensies gelezen. Ik neem hem met een Feser Single radiator (+20 e) en een HD3870 blok (+5,50) dus &#164;374,50 totaal.&#60;br&#62;
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Het is nogal veel geld voor mij maar ik heb het er graag voor over, als ik maar zeker weet dat het een goede koop is.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Dat is een hele goede set, mooie radiator (in ieder geval meer dan voldoende) mooi CPU blok (misschien wat restrictief maar met die pomp prima) en mooie GPU. Staat denk ik wel garant voor een goede eerste ervaring met waterkoeling.</message_content>
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<message_content>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;&#60;b&#62;&#60;a href="http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/30289248#30289248" rel="external" class="messagelink"&#62;Maksvr schreef op zondag 22 juni 2008 @ 11:42&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/b&#62;&#60;br&#62;
Omdat ik helemaal nieuw ben met waterkoeling leek mij het een goed idee om een alles in een set te kopen (dan heb ik gelijk alles compleet). Nu zag ik deze set staan: &#60;a href="http://www.highflow.nl/index.php?target=products&#38;amp;product_id=163" rel="external"&#62;klik&#60;/a&#62;. Die leek me wel wat, kwalitatief goede onderdelen allemaal had ik in recensies gelezen. Ik neem hem met een Feser Single radiator (+20 e) en een HD3870 blok (+5,50) dus &#164;374,50 totaal.&#60;br&#62;
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Het is nogal veel geld voor mij maar ik heb het er graag voor over, als ik maar zeker weet dat het een goede koop is.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Je neemt dus ipv. een 3x 120mm radiator een 1x 120mm mega overpriced radiator van feser  &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/bonk.gif" width="30"  height="17" alt="8)7" class="smiley"&#62;. Als je die set neemt kies dan gewoon de black ice GT of als je nog wat betere prestaties wilt de thermochill, de feser triple radiator is nog eens &#164;40,- duurder dan de thermochill, de prestaties van feser zijn dan wel wat beter maar het prijskaartje is echt belachelijk.</message_content>
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Je neemt dus ipv. een 3x 120mm radiator een 1x 120mm mega overpriced radiator van feser  &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/bonk.gif" width="30"  height="17" alt="8)7" class="smiley"&#62;. Als je die set neemt kies dan gewoon de black ice GT of als je nog wat betere prestaties wilt de thermochill, de feser triple radiator is nog eens &#164;40,- duurder dan de thermochill, de prestaties van feser zijn dan wel wat beter maar het prijskaartje is echt belachelijk.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Ja want dan kan ik het mooi in mijn midi-tower wegwerken. 36 cm kan ik niet kwijt (240 ook niet) dus was mijn idee om voor een goede 120 mm radiator te gaan waar ik mee vooruit kan. De Thermochill 120mm die ze bij HighFlow hebben is even duur als die van Feser alleen heeft die 3/8 aansluitingen waardoor ik van die koppelstukjes enzo nodig heb.&#60;br&#62;
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Maar de prestaties zijn toch wel beter dan die van een Black Ice GT Stealth? Wat raad jij dan aan om te pakken?&#60;br&#62;
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Edit\ En je kan alles natuurlijk relativeren he &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/clown.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":+" class="smiley"&#62;, 3 blokjes koper, een pompje, wat water en een paar pvc pijpjes voor meer dan 300 euro slaat natuurlijk ook nergens op &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62; . Ik wil dit gewoon goed doen de eerste keer &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;</message_content>
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<message_content>In een miditower krijg je vaak nog wel een 240mm radiator, maar als je niet wil modden oid. en voor een 120mm radiator wilt gaan (heb ik ook op het moment) dan zou ik naar een winkel toe gaan waar ze meerdere 120mm radiatoren hebben, aquatuning bijvoorbeeld.&#60;br&#62;
voor het verschil tussen 120 - 240 en 360 radiatoren van feser en black ice kijk even &#60;a href="http://www.bit-tech.net/modding/2008/05/23/radiator-shootout-1/1" rel="external"&#62;hier&#60;/a&#62; en dan vooral de laatste pagina, de verschillen zijn zo&#38;#039;n 4 graden op stress. Om dat je voor een 120mm radiator gaat lijkt het me niet dat je wilt gaan overclocken?, dan maken die 4 graden ook niet meer zoveel uit lijkt me.&#60;br&#62;
Uit eigen ervaring kan ik zeggen dat een radiator groter dan 120mm wenselijk is tegenwoordig, het gaat op zich wel goed maar het kan beter en stiller.</message_content>
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<message_content>Ik vind het zelf ook wel mooi om alles in &#233;&#233;n kastje te hebben zitten &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;. Maar als je groter dan 120mm wilt hebben moet wel de zaag erbij gehaald worden.&#60;br&#62;
Iemand op bit-tech heeft het zelfs voor elkaar gekregen om 2x 240mm radiator, een peltier element, full size atx en nog een heleboel zooi in een NZXT Rogue te proppen en die kast heeft ook geen zee&#235;n van ruimte &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/puh2.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":P" class="smiley"&#62;.</message_content>
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<message_content>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;&#60;b&#62;&#60;a href="http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/30291035#30291035" rel="external" class="messagelink"&#62;Flythe schreef op zondag 22 juni 2008 @ 17:43&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/b&#62;&#60;br&#62;
Ik vind het zelf ook wel mooi om alles in &#233;&#233;n kastje te hebben zitten &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;. Maar als je groter dan 120mm wilt hebben moet wel de zaag erbij gehaald worden.&#60;br&#62;
Iemand op bit-tech heeft het zelfs voor elkaar gekregen om 2x 240mm radiator, een peltier element, full size atx en nog een heleboel zooi in een NZXT Rogue te proppen en die kast heeft ook geen zee&#235;n van ruimte &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/puh2.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":P" class="smiley"&#62;.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Jeetje ik heb even die topic opgezocht over die NZXT Rogue, heb er laatst eentje voor mijn broer gekocht echt een heel mooi ding (standaard al). Maar die mod van die kerel heeft er bij mij wel even voor gezorgd dat ik mijn onderbroek moest verschonen.</message_content>
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<message_content>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;&#60;b&#62;&#60;a href="http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/30291035#30291035" rel="external" class="messagelink"&#62;Flythe schreef op zondag 22 juni 2008 @ 17:43&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/b&#62;&#60;br&#62;
Ik vind het zelf ook wel mooi om alles in &#233;&#233;n kastje te hebben zitten &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;. Maar als je groter dan 120mm wilt hebben moet wel de zaag erbij gehaald worden.&#60;br&#62;
Iemand op bit-tech heeft het zelfs voor elkaar gekregen om 2x 240mm radiator, een peltier element, full size atx en nog een heleboel zooi in een NZXT Rogue te proppen en die kast heeft ook geen zee&#235;n van ruimte &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/puh2.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":P" class="smiley"&#62;.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Ik vind het ook mooier om alles in de kast te hebben, maar als je je rad ergens uit het zicht kan hangen merk je er dus niks van. Er lopen alleen twee slangen met je  kabels mee. Dit is echter alleen maar handig las je je pc op &#233;&#233;n plek houdt en hem niet continu verplaatst.&#60;br&#62;
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(ik vind die NZXT Rogue mod op bit-tech overigens ook meesterlijk, vind het allee niet erg mooi maar dat is natuurlijk persoonlijk.)</message_content>
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<message_content>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;&#60;b&#62;&#60;a href="http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/30289248#30289248" rel="external" class="messagelink"&#62;Maksvr schreef op zondag 22 juni 2008 @ 11:42&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/b&#62;&#60;br&#62;
Omdat ik helemaal nieuw ben met waterkoeling leek mij het een goed idee om een alles in een set te kopen (dan heb ik gelijk alles compleet). Nu zag ik deze set staan: &#60;a href="http://www.highflow.nl/index.php?target=products&#38;amp;product_id=163" rel="external"&#62;klik&#60;/a&#62;. Die leek me wel wat, kwalitatief goede onderdelen allemaal had ik in recensies gelezen. Ik neem hem met een Feser Single radiator (+20 e) en een HD3870 blok (+5,50) dus &#164;374,50 totaal.&#60;br&#62;
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Het is nogal veel geld voor mij maar ik heb het er graag voor over, als ik maar zeker weet dat het een goede koop is.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Ik heb een complete set in de verkoop: &#60;a href="http://tweakers.net/aanbod/advertentie/112635/diverse-hi-end-waterkoelspullen.html" rel="external"&#62;V&#38;amp;A aangeboden: Diverse hi-end waterkoelspullen&#60;/a&#62;&#60;br&#62;
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Is echt een super-kit.., &#38;amp; in perfecte staat.</message_content>
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<message_content>Nouja het probleem is dat ik 3 SATA schijven ook nog eens heb, die nemen de onderste bays in beslag. Om dan maar even alles compleet te maken: Ik heb een Thermaltake Soprano kast met een AMD 5000+ BE @ 3,2 ghz. met een Artic Freezer. Die kan het echt net aan, 40 graden, tegenwoordig soms 60 na zware load (vcore 1,473, speeds alleen bij benchmarks). Videokaart is een HD3870 met een Thermaltake Duorb (ook overpriced maar dat ding ziet er stoer uit).&#60;br&#62;
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Is een 120 rad dan echt te weinig? Als ik een 240 rad dan moet dan zal ik inderdaad met de Dremel aan de slag moeten (kan ik dat ding ook weer eens gebruiken)  maar dat doe ik liever niet...vandaar.&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;Granted, most people should not attempt to cool an 8800GTX and a Q66600 CPU on just a 120mm radiator,&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Tja ik dus wel &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/clown.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":+" class="smiley"&#62; &#60;br&#62;
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Ben trouwens ook op zoek naar FET waterkoelblokjes, heb nu maar een paar heatsinks er op geplakt maar ze worden nog steeds erg warm (designfoutje in de K9A2 CF &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/emo.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":&#38;#039;)" class="smiley"&#62; ). Ik heb ze voor verschillende moederborden gezien maar nog nooit voor de K9A2. Anders moet ik daar nog steeds een fan op laten blazen namelijk.&#60;br&#62;
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En rabor ziet er leuk uit maar ik weet eigenlijk niet wat ik precies nodig heb.</message_content>
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Nouja het probleem is dat ik 3 SATA schijven ook nog eens heb, die nemen de onderste bays in beslag. Om dan maar even alles compleet te maken: Ik heb een Thermaltake Soprano kast met een AMD 5000+ BE @ 3,2 ghz. met een Artic Freezer. Die kan het echt net aan, 40 graden, tegenwoordig soms 60 na zware load (vcore 1,473, speeds alleen bij benchmarks). Videokaart is een HD3870 met een Thermaltake Duorb (ook overpriced maar dat ding ziet er stoer uit).&#60;br&#62;
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Is een 120 rad dan echt te weinig? Als ik een 240 rad dan moet dan zal ik inderdaad met de Dremel aan de slag moeten (kan ik dat ding ook weer eens gebruiken)  maar dat doe ik liever niet...vandaar.&#60;br&#62;
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[...]&#60;br&#62;
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Tja ik dus wel &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/clown.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":+" class="smiley"&#62; &#60;br&#62;
&#60;br&#62;
Ben trouwens ook op zoek naar FET waterkoelblokjes, heb nu maar een paar heatsinks er op geplakt maar ze worden nog steeds erg warm (designfoutje in de K9A2 CF &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/emo.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":&#38;#039;)" class="smiley"&#62; ). Ik heb ze voor verschillende moederborden gezien maar nog nooit voor de K9A2. Anders moet ik daar nog steeds een fan op laten blazen namelijk.&#60;br&#62;
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En rabor ziet er leuk uit maar ik weet eigenlijk niet wat ik precies nodig heb.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Heb ook een Soprano, als je de 3,5&#38;quot; bays eruit sloopt maakt dat heel veel ruimte, maar je krijgt er net geen 240mm radiator in (spreek uit ervaring) dan moet je ook een beetje gaan slopen in de 5.25&#38;quot; bays. Je zou eventueel kunnen overwegen een 360mm radiator op het dak van de kast te maken.</message_content>
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<message_content>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;&#60;b&#62;&#60;a href="http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/30293197#30293197" rel="external" class="messagelink"&#62;The_Ownman schreef op maandag 23 juni 2008 @ 08:09&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/b&#62;&#60;br&#62;
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Heb ook een Soprano, als je de 3,5&#38;quot; bays eruit sloopt maakt dat heel veel ruimte, maar je krijgt er net geen 240mm radiator in (spreek uit ervaring) dan moet je ook een beetje gaan slopen in de 5.25&#38;quot; bays. Je zou eventueel kunnen overwegen een 360mm radiator op het dak van de kast te maken.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Thanks, en twee keer een 120 mm rad? Is dat ook mogelijk? Dan moet ik mijn hardeschijven wel een stuk hoger hangen maar dan kan ik een rad bij de intake vooraan en een rad bij de outtake links achter.&#60;br&#62;
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En mijn pc neem ik twee keer per jaar ongeveer mee om te lannen dus opzich kan ik wel een externe rad denk ik. &#60;a href="http://forums.legitreviews.com/about11567.html" rel="external"&#62;Deze&#60;/a&#62; vond ik mooi, dan is je rad wel extern maar dan is het toch &#38;quot;een geheel&#38;quot; dat kan ik denk ik zelf ook wel doen.&#60;br&#62;
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Pff zo gaat dat altijd bij mij, dan kijk ik naar een Tt Bigwater en komt er zo&#38;#039;n gigantische set uit &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/clown.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":+" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;br&#62;
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Maar iedereen in iedergeval bedankt want anders was ik voor een 120 rad gegaan, dat zou denk ik echt geen slim idee zijn.&#60;br&#62;
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Edit\ Dus ik wil voor een 240 extern gaan &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;</message_content>
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Hier nog wat foto&#38;#039;s in actie, voor de geintereseerden.&#60;br&#62;
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<message_content>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;&#60;b&#62;&#60;a href="http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/30293871#30293871" rel="external" class="messagelink"&#62;Maksvr schreef op maandag 23 juni 2008 @ 10:55&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/b&#62;&#60;br&#62;
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Thanks, en twee keer een 120 mm rad? Is dat ook mogelijk? Dan moet ik mijn hardeschijven wel een stuk hoger hangen maar dan kan ik een rad bij de intake vooraan en een rad bij de outtake links achter.&#60;br&#62;
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En mijn pc neem ik twee keer per jaar ongeveer mee om te lannen dus opzich kan ik wel een externe rad denk ik. &#60;a href="http://forums.legitreviews.com/about11567.html" rel="external"&#62;Deze&#60;/a&#62; vond ik mooi, dan is je rad wel extern maar dan is het toch &#38;quot;een geheel&#38;quot; dat kan ik denk ik zelf ook wel doen.&#60;br&#62;
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Pff zo gaat dat altijd bij mij, dan kijk ik naar een Tt Bigwater en komt er zo&#38;#039;n gigantische set uit &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/clown.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":+" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;br&#62;
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Maar iedereen in iedergeval bedankt want anders was ik voor een 120 rad gegaan, dat zou denk ik echt geen slim idee zijn.&#60;br&#62;
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Edit\ Dus ik wil voor een 240 extern gaan &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Ik zou sowieso die 3.5&#38;quot; bays eruit slopen die zijn lelijk (vind ik) en dan zet je daar een 1x120 met een fan aan de binnekant (dus niet tussen de radiator en gat) dan is dat gewoon intake, dan kan je er eventueel nog eentje aan de achterkant van je kast zetten (misschien wel 2x120mm zoals de link die je zelf had). Ik denk dat je dan een mooi hanteerbare kast hebt met niet te veel gezeur van waterkoelingh.&#60;br&#62;
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Een paar pagina&#38;#039;s eerder staat ook mijn oplossing voor een extern rad, niet te netjes gedaan maar het werkt.</message_content>
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En rabor ziet er leuk uit maar ik weet eigenlijk niet wat ik precies nodig heb.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Sorry, niet helemaal goed gelezen. Ik zag in je link een 88GT blok staan, dus dan had ik een complete set liggen..</message_content>
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Ik zou sowieso die 3.5&#38;quot; bays eruit slopen die zijn lelijk (vind ik) en dan zet je daar een 1x120 met een fan aan de binnekant (dus niet tussen de radiator en gat) dan is dat gewoon intake, dan kan je er eventueel nog eentje aan de achterkant van je kast zetten (misschien wel 2x120mm zoals de link die je zelf had). Ik denk dat je dan een mooi hanteerbare kast hebt met niet te veel gezeur van waterkoelingh.&#60;br&#62;
&#60;br&#62;
Een paar pagina&#38;#039;s eerder staat ook mijn oplossing voor een extern rad, niet te netjes gedaan maar het werkt.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Ja nais, &#60;a href="http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/30133411#30133411" rel="external"&#62;deze&#60;/a&#62; is het he? &#60;br&#62;
&#60;br&#62;
Die 3.5&#38;quot; bays krijg je die er makkelijk uit? En jammer dat de foto&#38;#039;s met de voeding er in onscherp zijn. Want de voeding (en met name de draadjes die er uit komen) is voor mij toch een bron van ergernissen qua looks. Ik heb een modulaire voeding maar dan is het nog een draadentroep &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/frown.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":(" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;br&#62;
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Heb je daar nog tips voor?  Ik neig nu meer naar een 240 mm rad aan de achterkant ben alleen nog op zoek naar gromets zodat het er mooi ziet als die slangen naar buiten komen (afwerking is alles he &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/clown.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":+" class="smiley"&#62;), weet iemand daar nog iets voor? Hoe heb jij dat gedaan Ownman?</message_content>
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<message_content>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;&#60;b&#62;&#60;a href="http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/30294730#30294730" rel="external" class="messagelink"&#62;Maksvr schreef op maandag 23 juni 2008 @ 13:08&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/b&#62;&#60;br&#62;
[...]&#60;br&#62;
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Ja nais, &#60;a href="http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/30133411#30133411" rel="external"&#62;deze&#60;/a&#62; is het he? &#60;br&#62;
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Die 3.5&#38;quot; bays krijg je die er makkelijk uit? En jammer dat de foto&#38;#039;s met de voeding er in onscherp zijn. Want de voeding (en met name de draadjes die er uit komen) is voor mij toch een bron van ergernissen qua looks. Ik heb een modulaire voeding maar dan is het nog een draadentroep &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/frown.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":(" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;br&#62;
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Heb je daar nog tips voor?  Ik neig nu meer naar een 240 mm rad aan de achterkant ben alleen nog op zoek naar gromets zodat het er mooi ziet als die slangen naar buiten komen (afwerking is alles he &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/clown.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":+" class="smiley"&#62;), weet iemand daar nog iets voor? Hoe heb jij dat gedaan Ownman?&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Ik heb met een Dreml een paar stukjes metaal uit het casefangat gehaald om daar slanger door heen te doen. Verder zou ik met een hamer en beitel op de schroeven (zijn van die vastgemaakte dingen zonder schroefdraad) ze eruit tikken (10 min werk niet heel erg grof geweld nodig) en dan komen ze er vrij gemakkelijk uit. Verder heb ik de kabels redelijk goed weggewerkt. Mobo en sata kabels zichtbaar en PCI express.</message_content>
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<message_content>vraagje in het algemeen he? hoe zit het met de plaatsing van de fans op de radiator? zitten die strak tegen elkaar? of hoe groot is de tussenruimte? of wisselt dat ook nog per merk?&#60;br&#62;
(ik wil namelijk in mn nieuw te bouwen case gelijk voorziening inbouwen voor waterkoeling, en als ik de fan gaten en montage vast zo maak dat ik er een 2x120 rad tussen kan schroeven zonder al te veel moeite, zou dat zeer fijn zijn &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;)</message_content>
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<message_content>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;&#60;b&#62;&#60;a href="http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/30296512#30296512" rel="external" class="messagelink"&#62;AlexanderB schreef op maandag 23 juni 2008 @ 16:58&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/b&#62;&#60;br&#62;
vraagje in het algemeen he? hoe zit het met de plaatsing van de fans op de radiator? zitten die strak tegen elkaar? of hoe groot is de tussenruimte? of wisselt dat ook nog per merk?&#60;br&#62;
(ik wil namelijk in mn nieuw te bouwen case gelijk voorziening inbouwen voor waterkoeling, en als ik de fan gaten en montage vast zo maak dat ik er een 2x120 rad tussen kan schroeven zonder al te veel moeite, zou dat zeer fijn zijn &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;)&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Over het algemeen zitten ze strak op de rad als je ze er normaal op schroeft. Je kan er natuurlijk wel zelf voor kiezen om ze er wat vanaf te plaatsen. De fans iets van de rad af is beter voor de koeling en het maakt ook minder herrie door ruizen door de lamellen heen. &#60;br&#62;
&#60;br&#62;
Ik heb ze er zelf 1cm vanaf zitten door moederbord afstandsbusjes te gebruiken. Vervolgens heb ik er wel stukken tape op zitten om er voor te zorgen dat de lucht echt door de rad gaat.&#60;br&#62;
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Iets er vanaf is bij blazen sowieso beter dan vast er op.&#60;br&#62;
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Edit: Ik las je vraag even verkeerd. De fans zitten gewoon vrijwel tegen elkaar aan. Zit misschien 3mm tussen. Volgens mij is dit bij alle merken zo. De fans steken in ieder geval niet uit over de rad heen. Als een 2x120mm past dan geeft dat met fans geen problemen. (Alleen in de dikte zou het problemen kunnen geven, maar dat is gewoon even meten van te voren)</message_content>
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<message_content>&#60;span class="strike"&#62;ik bedoel meer.. zijwaartste afstand tussen de fans.. &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/wink.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=";)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;/span&#62;&#60;br&#62;
je had et zelf al verbeterd..&#60;br&#62;
&#60;br&#62;
&#38;quot;3mm ofzo&#38;quot;.. de vraag is dus.. wat is ofzo? &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/wink.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=";)" class="smiley"&#62; want ik houd rekening met de diepte, maar ik moet wel weten hoe ver ik de bevestigingsgaten uit elkaar moet zetten, de &#38;quot;breedte&#38;quot; dus..&#60;br&#62;
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[edit3:]&#60;br&#62;
&#60;img src="http://www.jab-tech.com/xcart/product_images/detailed/d_3261.jpg" class="rml" title="http://www.jab-tech.com/xcart/product_images/detailed/d_3261.jpg" alt="http://www.jab-tech.com/xcart/product_images/detailed/d_3261.jpg"&#62;&#60;br&#62;
gevonden &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;br&#62;
[edit4:]&#60;br&#62;
en gecombineerd met het feit dat 120mm fans een center to center aftand van 105mm hebben op de schroefgaten, betekent dus dat de fans strak tegen elkaar zitten (tenzei je 118mm fans hebt, sommige 120mm fans zijn in werkelijkheid maar 118-119 mm breed.)</message_content>
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<message_content>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;&#60;b&#62;&#60;a href="http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/30296875#30296875" rel="external" class="messagelink"&#62;AlexanderB schreef op maandag 23 juni 2008 @ 17:54&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/b&#62;&#60;br&#62;
&#60;span class="strike"&#62;ik bedoel meer.. zijwaartste afstand tussen de fans.. &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/wink.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=";)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;/span&#62;&#60;br&#62;
je had et zelf al verbeterd..&#60;br&#62;
&#60;br&#62;
&#38;quot;3mm ofzo&#38;quot;.. de vraag is dus.. wat is ofzo? &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/wink.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=";)" class="smiley"&#62; want ik houd rekening met de diepte, maar ik moet wel weten hoe ver ik de bevestigingsgaten uit elkaar moet zetten, de &#38;quot;breedte&#38;quot; dus..&#60;br&#62;
&#60;br&#62;
[edit3:]&#60;br&#62;
[&#60;a href="http://www.jab-tech.com/xcart/product_images/detailed/d_3261.jpg" rel="external"&#62;afbeelding&#60;/a&#62;]&#60;br&#62;
gevonden &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;br&#62;
[edit4:]&#60;br&#62;
en gecombineerd met het feit dat 120mm fans een center to center aftand van 105mm hebben op de schroefgaten, betekent dus dat de fans strak tegen elkaar zitten (tenzei je 118mm fans hebt, sommige 120mm fans zijn in werkelijkheid maar 118-119 mm breed.)&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Ik had idd ff wat moeite met de vraag goed begrijpen &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/puh2.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":P" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;br&#62;
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Is dat plaatje wel van de exacte rad die je gaat gebruiken ? Het kan namelijk per merk wel iets verschillen. Bij mij zit er toch echt 2 tot 3mm tussen de fans en jij geeft aan dat het bij die rad niets is.&#60;br&#62;
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Er zijn trouwens wel templates te vinden van diverse rad&#38;#039;s. Bij mijn rad zat het er ook bij. Dan kan je dat gewoon uit printen en tegen je kast aan plakken om zo erg precies de gaten te maken.</message_content>
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<message_content>das van een BX-II, en anders maak ik mn gaaatjes wel n klein beetje eivormig, en zet ik dr bouten in met een iets grotere kop (zodat ze dr overheen vallen).. zo&#38;#039;n probleem moet et niet zijn..&#60;br&#62;
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