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<message_content>Ik dat van die leesbaarheid nogal meevallen eigenlijk. Het enige wat mij stoort aan de poster is dat &#38;#039;rumours...&#38;#039; die grunge-style helemaal niet heeft en de rest wel. Hierdoor past &#38;#039;rumours...&#38;#039; niet echt in de poster erbij.</message_content>
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<message_content>Alleen dat lettertype waar &#38;quot;rumours...&#38;quot; in staat is echt heeeeeeel clich&#233; en een ongelooflijke stijlbreuk met de rest van je ontwerp.&#60;br&#62;
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Ook zou ik al die herhalingen van dat ESN logo weghalen en alleen die onder de &#38;#039;W&#38;#039; van &#38;#039;Welcome&#38;#039; laten staan... verder opzich een prima poster</message_content>
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<message_content>Ik hoop dat ik hier goed zit, want ik heb gisternacht (ja ik verveelde me) een vectorafbeelding gemaakt en was aangenaam verrast met het resultaat. Ik zocht een makkelijk plaatje om over te trekken en dat is dus dit overdreven schattig meisje geworden. Hopelijk is het dit topic waardig &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/wink.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=";)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;br&#62;
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Pas geleden geleerd wat je allemaal wel niet kunt doen met de pen tool &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/puh2.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":P" class="smiley"&#62;</message_content>
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<message_content>Klein puntje: ik vind die pukkel boven haar rechterwang (voor de kijkers) niet passen bij de rest. Allemaal sharp edges en dan opeens een soft edge. Ik zou die ook met hard edges tekenen.</message_content>
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Klein puntje: ik vind die pukkel boven haar rechterwang (voor de kijkers) niet passen bij de rest. Allemaal sharp edges en dan opeens een soft edge. Ik zou die ook met hard edges tekenen.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Je hebt helemaal gelijk, ik heb het even aangepast en nu ziet het er hetzelfde uit als het orgineel &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;</message_content>
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Mijn WIP-website layout. Moet mijn fotografie portfolio worden.&#60;br&#62;
&#38;quot;more in experimental&#38;quot; moet een stukje hoger komen te staan zie ik net, anders is het niet consequent met de rest. Verder opmerking/verbeterpunten die jullie zien?</message_content>
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<message_content>Ik vind het geheel te donker, het is zo zwart dat je lang moet kijken om de foto&#38;#039;s van hun achtergrond te onderscheiden. Bovendien zie ik nu niet echt wat je met de uitlijning wil; hoe lijnt het zich uit op widescreen? Gecentreerd? Of komt er meer marge tussen de verschillende foto&#38;#039;s?&#60;br&#62;
Verder vind ik het jammer dat alle foto&#38;#039;s nu zo bij elkaar staan. Als ik ze met mijn vingers uitkader zijn het stuk voor stuk best sterke beelden, maar door de &#38;#039;postzegelverzameling&#38;#039; die je er nu van maakt verliezen ze allemaal hun kracht, omdat het zulke aparte onderwerpen en stijlen zijn.&#60;br&#62;
Sommige van je foto&#38;#039;s zijn van zichzelf ook al gewoon te donker,... eigenlijk die hele bovenste rij wel. En dan dat samenvloeien met het zwart, komt ze niet ten goede. &#60;br&#62;
Als je je foto&#38;#039;s presenteert op een zwarte fotowand (nb. in real life) is die ook niet helemaal zwart.Er valt toch altijd wel wat licht op. Ik zou dus voor heel donkergrijs of een warmere donkere tint gaan.</message_content>
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<message_content>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;&#60;b&#62;&#60;a href="http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/29463909#29463909" rel="external" class="messagelink"&#62;addictive schreef op maandag 21 januari 2008 @ 03:26&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/b&#62;&#60;br&#62;
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ik dacht al dat ik die op dA was tegen gekomen &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/biggrin.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":D" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;br&#62;
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Mijn WIP-website layout. Moet mijn fotografie portfolio worden.&#60;br&#62;
&#38;quot;more in experimental&#38;quot; moet een stukje hoger komen te staan zie ik net, anders is het niet consequent met de rest. Verder opmerking/verbeterpunten die jullie zien?&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Nu je het toch over deviantArt hebt. Als we dat vergelijken met jouw website. dA maakt niet voor niks gebruik van die kleur groen. Het is een kleur waar bijna elke kleur goed tegen afsteekt. Met zwart en wit loop je heel makkelijk het risico dat het niet goed afgekaderd is, maar in de achtergrond doorloopt. Dit kun je in principe redelijk makkelijk voorkomen, door of een andere kleur kader om de foto&#38;#039;s te zetten, of een andere kleur achtergrond die minder vaak in de foto&#38;#039;s die erop staan voorkomt (liefst helemaal niet). Verder is er vrij weinig samenhang tussen alles. Ik ben zelf ook altijd voor een originele aanpak met portfolio&#38;#039;s en niet zomaar een verzameling met werk, maar dat terzijde &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/wink.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=";)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;br&#62;
Het lijkt trouwens ook wel alsof je de layout van de frontpage van dA een beetje hebt willen namaken hehe, maar probeer creatief met je ruimte om te gaan.</message_content>
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<message_content>Ik ben bezig om een website voor mijn vriendin te maken. Het moet een informatieve website worden over het zogenaamde rechtrichten van paarden. Dit is het ontwerp tot nu toe (klikbaar):&#60;br&#62;
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<message_content>Errug groen, associeer dit meer met een &#38;#039;intratuin&#38;#039; ofzo... Ik zou ook proberen wat minder te kaderen, alles is wel heel erg vakje/hokje/streepje ingedeeld.</message_content>
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<message_content>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;&#60;b&#62;&#60;a href="http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/29464319#29464319" rel="external" class="messagelink"&#62;Dark Blue schreef op maandag 21 januari 2008 @ 09:25&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/b&#62;&#60;br&#62;
Ik vind het geheel te donker, het is zo zwart dat je lang moet kijken om de foto&#38;#039;s van hun achtergrond te onderscheiden. Bovendien zie ik nu niet echt wat je met de uitlijning wil; hoe lijnt het zich uit op widescreen? Gecentreerd? Of komt er meer marge tussen de verschillende foto&#38;#039;s?&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Ik laat het centreren, resolutie van de gebruiker maakt dus niet uit.&#60;br&#62;
De marge tussen de foto&#38;#039;s is dan ook in pixels uitgedrukt, thumbs zijn maximaal 150x150px, daartussen zit dan 50px &#38;#039;witruimte&#38;#039;.&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;Verder vind ik het jammer dat alle foto&#38;#039;s nu zo bij elkaar staan. Als ik ze met mijn vingers uitkader zijn het stuk voor stuk best sterke beelden, maar door de &#38;#039;postzegelverzameling&#38;#039; die je er nu van maakt verliezen ze allemaal hun kracht, omdat het zulke aparte onderwerpen en stijlen zijn.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Ik had het idee om ze zo als thumbs te presenteren, en dan uiteraard klikbaar te maken voor het volle formaat (in combinatie met het Lightbox scipt &#60;a href="http://www.huddletogether.com/projects/lightbox2" rel="external"&#62;klik&#60;/a&#62;).&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;Sommige van je foto&#38;#039;s zijn van zichzelf ook al gewoon te donker,... eigenlijk die hele bovenste rij wel. En dan dat samenvloeien met het zwart, komt ze niet ten goede. &#60;br&#62;
Als je je foto&#38;#039;s presenteert op een zwarte fotowand (nb. in real life) is die ook niet helemaal zwart.Er valt toch altijd wel wat licht op. Ik zou dus voor heel donkergrijs of een warmere donkere tint gaan.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;klinkt logisch. Ik ga het vanavond eens aanpassen! &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;br&#62;
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&#60;hr&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;&#60;b&#62;&#60;a href="http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/29465270#29465270" rel="external" class="messagelink"&#62;Tjeemp schreef op maandag 21 januari 2008 @ 11:53&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/b&#62;&#60;br&#62;
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Nu je het toch over deviantArt hebt. Als we dat vergelijken met jouw website. dA maakt niet voor niks gebruik van die kleur groen. Het is een kleur waar bijna elke kleur goed tegen afsteekt. Met zwart en wit loop je heel makkelijk het risico dat het niet goed afgekaderd is, maar in de achtergrond doorloopt. Dit kun je in principe redelijk makkelijk voorkomen, door of een andere kleur kader om de foto&#38;#039;s te zetten, of een andere kleur achtergrond die minder vaak in de foto&#38;#039;s die erop staan voorkomt (liefst helemaal niet).&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Zoals DB ook zei &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62; Ik ga zeker een andere achtergrondkleur proberen!&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;Verder is er vrij weinig samenhang tussen alles. Ik ben zelf ook altijd voor een originele aanpak met portfolio&#38;#039;s en niet zomaar een verzameling met werk, maar dat terzijde &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/wink.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=";)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;De manier waarop ik ze &#60;a href="http://www.mickbenjamins.com" rel="external"&#62;nu&#60;/a&#62; &#38;#039;presenteer&#38;#039; vind ik zelf wel leuk, maar dat loopt niet op alle computers evengoed (ivm flash) Dus daar wil ik vanaf.&#60;br&#62;
Het idee achter de site was dat hij snel laadbaar moet zijn, en dat het portfolio meteen zichtbaar is, zodat ook mensen die minder bekend zijn met internet toch kunnen navigeren, en niet diep een site in hoeven te klikken om tot de foto&#38;#039;s te komen.&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;Het lijkt trouwens ook wel alsof je de layout van de frontpage van dA een beetje hebt willen namaken hehe, maar probeer creatief met je ruimte om te gaan.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Dat was iig niet het geval, maar nu je het zegt kan ik het begrijpen dat je dat dacht &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;br&#62;
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In ieder geval hartstikke bedankt beide! Mooie opbouwende (en onderbouwde!) kritiek is altijd goed, en daar heb ik tenminste iets aan. Top!</message_content>
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Ik ben bezig om een website voor mijn vriendin te maken. Het moet een informatieve website worden over het zogenaamde rechtrichten van paarden. Dit is het ontwerp tot nu toe (klikbaar):&#60;br&#62;
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&#60;a href="http://www.leedbek.nl/upload/paardenrechtrichten.jpg" rel="external"&#62;[afbeelding]&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Het komt op mij over als het zoveelste &#38;lt;insert standaard cms layout&#38;gt;, is dat ook zo? Ik vind de kaders niet zo erg, maar daar ben ik zelf dan ook fan van &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;&#60;b&#62;&#60;a href="http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/29466789#29466789" rel="external" class="messagelink"&#62;Rakkerzero schreef op maandag 21 januari 2008 @ 15:16&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/b&#62;&#60;br&#62;
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Waarom niet? Het is ook 2d &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/wink.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=";)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Wiiiiiiiiiiiii! &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;br&#62;
Is het handig als iedereen wat standaard zaakjes post om e.e.a. te verduidelijken voor de lezer?&#60;br&#62;
&#60;br&#62;
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In het linkergedeelte van de achterkant, had ik een lijst met merken op willen nemen in twee rijen. Het is met echter niet goed gelukt. Weet iemand hoe ik dat handig kan doen vanuit Excel?</message_content>
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<message_content>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;&#60;b&#62;&#60;a href="http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/29466824#29466824" rel="external" class="messagelink"&#62;PcDealer schreef op maandag 21 januari 2008 @ 15:20&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/b&#62;Het komt op mij over als het zoveelste &#38;lt;insert standaard cms layout&#38;gt;, is dat ook zo? Ik vind de kaders niet zo erg, maar daar ben ik zel dan ook fan van &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Hehe nee, het komt wel op een CMS te draaien, maar op een zelfgeschreven CMS, geen Joomla o.i.d. &#60;br&#62;
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Is het handig als iedereen wat standaard zaakjes post om e.e.a. te verduidelijken voor de lezer?&#60;br&#62;
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&#60;table class="rml" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2"&#62;&#60;tr&#62;&#60;td&#62;&#60;b&#62;Soort project:&#60;/b&#62;&#60;/td&#62;&#60;td&#62;Flyer van Starterpack / reclame&#60;/td&#62;&#60;/tr&#62;&#60;tr&#62;&#60;td&#62;&#60;b&#62;Gebruikt OS::&#60;/b&#62;&#60;/td&#62;&#60;td&#62;Windows Server 2003&#60;/td&#62;&#60;/tr&#62;&#60;tr&#62;&#60;td&#62;&#60;b&#62;Gebruikte hardware:&#60;/b&#62;&#60;/td&#62;&#60;td&#62;Pentium III 600, 320MB, 2MB video&#60;/td&#62;&#60;/tr&#62;&#60;tr&#62;&#60;td&#62;&#60;b&#62;Gebruikt programma:&#60;/b&#62;&#60;/td&#62;&#60;td&#62;Microsoft Office Publisher 2007&#60;/td&#62;&#60;/tr&#62;&#60;/table&#62;&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Nou... zoveel info... &#38;#039;soort project&#38;#039; was eigenlijk al voldoende. &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/puh2.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":P" class="smiley"&#62; &#60;br&#62;
(waarom gebruik je in hemelsnaam een serveros voor een ontwerpmachine? is dan weer een vraag die wel bij me opborrelt maar die hier heel ongepast is, pm anders maar)&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;Voorkant:&#60;br&#62;
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In het linkergedeelte van de achterkant, had ik een lijst met merken op willen nemen in twee rijen. Het is met echter niet goed gelukt. Weet iemand hoe ik dat handig kan doen vanuit Excel?&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Ik vind het een beetje ondoordacht dat je op voor- en achterkant de donkere balk aan de zelfde kant hebt zitten. Als hij voor links zit, zou ik hem achter rechts doen. Bij dun papier zie je namelijk zo&#38;#039;n donkere kleur er heel sterk doorheen schijnen. Als je ze exact tegenover elkaar zet los je dat op.&#60;br&#62;
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Je logo van HP is een pixelafbeelding. Kun je in Publisher vectorafbeeldingen plaatsen? Op &#60;a href="http://www.brandsoftheworld.com" title="http://www.brandsoftheworld.com" rel="external"&#62;www.brandsoftheworld.com&#60;/a&#62; kun je aan een vectorversie van het HP logo komen, of je vraag het je leverancier natuurlijk gewoon even zelf. &#60;br&#62;
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Verder vind ik je lettertype niet zo erg spannend. Je hoeft geen Afrikaans stipjeslettertype te gebruiken dat bij wijze van spreke van je folder afswingt, maar kies wel iets originelers dan dit (Verdana?). Iets stijlvollers. Myriad of Univers, doe eens gek. Verdiep je even in serif- en non-serif fonts (Google!) want wat ik nu zie is dat je beide door elkaar gebruikt. Op gedrukte media is een serif-font lekkerder leesbaar, op een scherm een non-serif. Dat is het uitgangspunt, meningen daarover zijn nogal eens verdeeld. Kies wat jou het beste lijkt, maar kies consequent! Niet in de grijze balk een serif en in de rest van de tekst een non-serif. Houd het eenduidig!&#60;br&#62;
&#60;br&#62;
Voor je &#38;#039;ACSP&#38;#039; woordmerk zou ik wat opvallenders bedenken, wat meer &#38;#039;gevormd&#38;#039; en niet zozeer plomp neergezet in een dunne, kartelige Verdana. Ook hier geldt weer: Don&#38;#039;t overdo it! Bij een strak software/hardwarebedrijf hoeft geen swingend lettertype.&#60;br&#62;
Onderaan je blaadje, voorop, staat &#38;#039;Prodcuts&#38;#039;. Hoort dat zo? &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/wink.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=";)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;br&#62;
Verder gebruik je hier ook weer verschillende lettetypen &#233;n uitlijningen door elkaar. Niet doen! Hou het gestructureerd en eenduidig.&#60;br&#62;
&#60;br&#62;
Oja, na een komma hoort een spatie alvorens je een nieuw woord begint. Ook staan niet alle producten die je in het lijstje noemt, als plaatje weergegeven. &#60;br&#62;
&#60;br&#62;
Zoals het er nu uitziet ben je een reseller van HP. Waarom ga je daar dan zelf foldertjes voor fixen? Vraag meer materiaal aan bij HP! Jij brengt voor hen geld in het laadje! Vraag ze gerust om high-res foto&#38;#039;s en precieze productomschrijvingen!</message_content>
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[...]&#60;br&#62;
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Nou... zoveel info... &#38;#039;soort project&#38;#039; &#60;span class="underline"&#62;&#60;b&#62;+ &#38;#039;Gebruikte programma&#38;#039;s&#38;#039;&#60;/b&#62;&#60;/span&#62; &#38;#039;was eigenlijk al voldoende. &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/puh2.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":P" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Die ook &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/wink.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=";)" class="smiley"&#62;</message_content>
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[...]&#60;br&#62;
&#60;br&#62;
Die ook &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/wink.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=";)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;&#60;span class="me"&#62;* Dark Blue komt met Rakkerzero&#38;#039;s verloren kortetermijngeheugen aanrennen&#60;/span&#62;&#60;br&#62;
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Was je vergeten dat hij dat al gemeld had, en dat je dat zelfs al gequote had? &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/puh2.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":P" class="smiley"&#62;</message_content>
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[...]&#60;br&#62;
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Was je vergeten dat hij dat al gemeld had, en dat je dat zelfs al gequote had? &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/puh2.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":P" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Jij bedoeld dat ik gezegd dat Publisher ook gewoon mag?&#60;br&#62;
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Want daar doelde ik namelijk niet op. Ik doelde op dat PCDealer zegt: &#38;quot;Is het handig als &#60;b&#62;iedereen&#60;/b&#62; wat standaard zaakjes post om e.e.a. te verduidelijken voor de lezer?&#38;quot;&#60;br&#62;
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Ik doelde op het idee algemeen, maar had jouw zin half gelezen &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/puh2.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":p" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;br&#62;
 Dus dat &#38;#039;Gebruikte programma&#38;#039;s&#38;#039; wel aan het rijtje toegevoegd kan worden mochten we een regeltje gaan verzinnen om die info er altijd bij te gaan zetten &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/wink.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=";)" class="smiley"&#62;</message_content>
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Ik doelde op het idee algemeen, maar had jouw zin half gelezen &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/puh2.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":p" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Np, had ik met de jouwe ook maar half gedaan zo te zien.</message_content>
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[...] (waarom gebruik je in hemelsnaam een serveros voor een ontwerpmachine? is dan weer een vraag die wel bij me opborrelt maar die hier heel ongepast is, pm anders maar)&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Heb een goedkope machine in de woonkamer. Het is een 2U dingetje en ik dacht: gooi er eens een 180day trial op van Server 2003. Gebruikt weinig resources en start snel op &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;[...]&#60;br&#62;
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Ik vind het een beetje ondoordacht dat je op voor- en achterkant de donkere balk aan de zelfde kant hebt zitten. Als hij voor links zit, zou ik hem achter rechts doen. Bij dun papier zie je namelijk zo&#38;#039;n donkere kleur er heel sterk doorheen schijnen. Als je ze exact tegenover elkaar zet los je dat op.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Ik heb het dubbelzijdig geprint op mijn schitterende HP Color Laserjet 3550n op (ik denk) HP All-in-one-Printingpaper en schijnt niet door, althans niet als het zo op tafel ligt. Extra wit en beter in elkaar geweven vezels.&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;Je logo van HP is een pixelafbeelding. Kun je in Publisher vectorafbeeldingen plaatsen? Op &#60;a href="http://www.brandsoftheworld.com" title="http://www.brandsoftheworld.com" rel="external"&#62;www.brandsoftheworld.com&#60;/a&#62; kun je aan een vectorversie van het HP logo komen, of je vraag het je leverancier natuurlijk gewoon even zelf.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Ik sleep alles gewoon erin. Dat HP-logo is erg gekarteld op papier, terwijl in .pub en .pdf niet. Ik heb een &#60;a href="http://h30067.www3.hp.com/CRLLogin/tabid/63/Default.aspx?returnurl=%2fDefault.aspx" rel="external"&#62;login&#60;/a&#62; van HP, maar dat zijn alleen productfoto&#38;#039;s. Ik kon het logo daar niet vinden. Jammer genoeg ook niet het &#38;quot;The computer is personal again&#38;quot;-gebeuren. Die site die je gaf moest ik inderdaad nog onderzoeken &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;Verder vind ik je lettertype niet zo erg spannend. Je hoeft geen Afrikaans stipjeslettertype te gebruiken dat bij wijze van spreke van je folder afswingt, maar kies wel iets originelers dan dit (Verdana?). Iets stijlvollers. &#60;b&#62;Myriad&#60;/b&#62; of &#60;b&#62;Univers&#60;/b&#62;, doe eens gek.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Ja, ik wilde het wel strak houden. Ik zal er zeker naar kijken!&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;Verdiep je even in serif- en non-serif fonts (Google!) want wat ik nu zie is dat je beide door elkaar gebruikt. Op gedrukte media is een serif-font lekkerder leesbaar, op een scherm een non-serif. Dat is het uitgangspunt, meningen daarover zijn nogal eens verdeeld. Kies wat jou het beste lijkt, maar kies consequent! Niet in de grijze balk een serif en in de rest van de tekst een non-serif. Houd het eenduidig!&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Kun je meer uitleg geven?&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;Voor je &#38;#039;ACSP&#38;#039; woordmerk zou ik wat opvallenders bedenken, wat meer &#38;#039;gevormd&#38;#039; en niet zozeer plomp neergezet in een dunne, kartelige Verdana.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Hier op papier is het niet kartelig, maar Verdana is wellicht wat saai.&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;Ook hier geldt weer: Don&#38;#039;t overdo it! Bij een strak software/hardwarebedrijf hoeft geen swingend lettertype.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Da dacht ik! &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;Onderaan je blaadje, voorop, staat &#38;#039;Prodcuts&#38;#039;. Hoort dat zo? &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/wink.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=";)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Grmbl!&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;Verder gebruik je hier ook weer verschillende lette&#60;b&#62;r&#60;/b&#62;typen &#233;n uitlijningen door elkaar. Niet doen! Hou het gestructureerd en eenduidig.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Ik ga er een x blik op werpen.&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;Oja, na een komma hoort een spatie alvorens je een nieuw woord begint.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Inderdaad.&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;Ook staan niet alle producten die je in het lijstje noemt, als plaatje weergegeven.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Papier vond ik niet zo spannend, maar ik zal eens kieken.&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;Zoals het er nu uitziet ben je een reseller van HP. Waarom ga je daar dan zelf foldertjes voor fixen? Vraag meer materiaal aan bij HP! Jij brengt voor hen geld in het laadje! Vraag ze gerust om high-res foto&#38;#039;s en precieze productomschrijvingen!&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Joa. Volgens mij is er een promotional programme, maar dan moet je certified zijn en dat is nog niet in zicht.&#60;br&#62;
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Ik houd zelf ook wel van strak gekaderde websites, is ook een beetje mijn stijl. En daar zit ik ook een beetje mee in dubio: is een herkenbare stijl in dit geval goed, of lijdt het tot gebrek aan creativiteit en originaliteit?&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Tja, persoonlijk vind ik dit erg 1996 maar dat is dan misschien smaak. Er is niks mis met je site op te splitsen dmv. kaders en strepen. Maar met mate&#60;b&#62;!&#60;/b&#62; Bijv. een lijntje in dezelfde kleur als het object, maar 1 tint donkerder, heeft hetzelfde effect en is veel subtieler.&#60;br&#62;
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Hoe los je dat op of is het juist goed om een vaste stijl te hanteren?&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Tuurlijk, iedereen blijft wel eens in dezelfde stijl hangen. Maar ik zie dit persoonlijk wel als vrij negatief. Probeer wel te blijven ontwikkelen en overtreffen. Oplossen door veel rond te zoeken op internet. Zoek naar sites waar je &#233;cht tegenop kijkt en analyseer wat je er precies mooi aan vind en probeer dit te vertalen naar een eigen idee. Bijvoorbeeld...</message_content>
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Tja, persoonlijk vind ik dit erg 1996 maar dat is dan misschien smaak. Er is niks mis met je site op te splitsen dmv. kaders en strepen. Maar met mate&#60;b&#62;!&#60;/b&#62; Bijv. een lijntje in dezelfde kleur als het object, maar 1 tint donkerder, heeft hetzelfde effect en is veel subtieler.&#60;br&#62;
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Je content wil ook graag zuurstof... witruimte werkt - vind ik - beter als je secties wilt scheiden.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Nouja, 1996 vind ik wel erg overdreven &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/wink.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=";)" class="smiley"&#62; Maar je bedoelt dat ik de grijze borders moet vervangen door een subtieler lijntje? Daar kan ik inkomen, daar ga ik eens naar kijken.&#60;br&#62;
Alleen witruimte als scheiding vind ik persoonlijk weer te mager, misschien dat ik kan kijken naar een compromis &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;Ga je deze site opbouwen in tabellen? Zo ziet het er uit namelijk. De zoveelste 2 column layout. Alsof je je laat beperken door een raster van tabellen.&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Nee hoor, er komt geen tabel aan te pas in deze layout &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/smile.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":)" class="smiley"&#62; Ik heb het al omgezet naar html en alles is netjes in divs uitgewerkt (met toepassing van faux columns voor de tweekolommige layout).&#60;br&#62;
Als ik ga nadenken over wat de beste manier is om een &#60;span class="underline"&#62;informatieve&#60;/span&#62; site met veel subpagina&#38;#039;s overzichtelijk weer te geven, dan kom ik al snel op een layout met 2 kolommen uit. Dat lijkt mij in dit geval niet eens zo verkeerd. De nadruk ligt hier op de informatieve waarde en overzichtelijke structuur, dan ga ik juist niet &#38;#039;out of the box&#38;#039; werken met afwijkende stramiens.&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;&#60;div style="text-align:center"&#62;&#60;small&#62;&#60;a href="http://www.alistapart.com/articles/outsidethegrid" rel="external"&#62;Thinking outside the grid.&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/small&#62;&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Die pagina ken ik en daar valt veel voor te zeggen, maar nogmaals: voor een puur informatieve website vind ik dat niet opgaan, daar werkt een speelse opmaak juist averechts vind ik.&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;div&#62;quote:&#60;/div&#62;&#60;div class="message-quote-div"&#62;Tuurlijk, iedereen blijft wel eens in dezelfde stijl hangen. Maar ik zie dit persoonlijk wel als vrij negatief. Probeer wel te blijven ontwikkelen en overtreffen. Oplossen door veel rond te zoeken op internet. Zoek naar sites waar je &#233;cht tegenop kijkt en analyseer wat je er precies mooi aan vind en probeer dit te vertalen naar een eigen idee. Bijvoorbeeld...&#60;/div&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;Klopt. Probeer ik uiteraard ook zo veel mogelijk te doen. Maar het hangt natuurlijk van het doel van de website en de wensen van de opdrachtgevers af hoe vrij je kunt zijn met het &#38;#039;thinking outside the grid&#38;#039;. Ik hoop binnenkort nog eens een project te doen waarbij dat &#233;cht kan... ben benieuwd wat ik er dan vanaf breng &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/puh2.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=":p" class="smiley"&#62;&#60;br&#62;
Bedankt voor je input, al ben ik het niet volkomen met je eens &#60;img src="http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/wink.gif" width="15"  height="15" alt=";)" class="smiley"&#62;</message_content>
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